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E30 (1982 - 1993)
God's Chariot. The E30 was produced primarily from 1982 through 1991. The cabriolet was the one exception which was produced through 1993.

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Old 07-21-2013, 04:14 PM
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My glove box won't open, I was wondering if anyone knows how I might open it. I have a 1988 E30. Can the glove box be removed without opening it?

Thanks 4 any suggestions U might have in advance!
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:23 PM
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Re: glove compartment won't open?

Is it locked?

And no, you can't get it out with it closed without destroying it.

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Old 07-21-2013, 06:06 PM
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I don't know how it would have got locked. My wife forced it closed and now it won't open. I was thinking I might have to cut a hole in the bottom and try to open it from underneath. I don't want to destroy the dash trying to open it. Oh, well, such is life!
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Old 07-22-2013, 04:10 AM
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The latch will be broken. I got mine out without destroying it by unscrewing it from the hinge. Can't remember how exactly, it wasn't easy and some funny angles were involved but it is possible.
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:40 AM
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That is good news! Do you remember where the hinge is located? One on each side?
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:59 AM
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Smile Tender species- my foot

Seems that the female destroyers have been active again
I suggest posting following message in a prominent place of your vehicle, for the female of the species to observe
Quote:
ACHTUNG !
##########

ALLES LOOKENPEEPERS !


ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENSPEEPERS !


DAS MACHINE IST NICHT FOR GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABBEN !
MACHINE IST EASY SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK , BLOWENFUSE
UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKEN !
MACHINE IST NICHT FUER DAS GEVERKEN BEI DAS DUMMKOPFEN !
DAS RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEERIN MUSS KEEPEN
DAS COTTONPICKIN HANDS IN DAS POCKET
UND SO RELAXEN AND WATCHEN DAS BLINKENLIGHTS !!!!

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Old 07-22-2013, 09:19 AM
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Like Actletpone said.., 1st make sure its unlocked.. over time the lock assy/striker and the hinge screws begin to get loose without you noticing,.. especially when the box is loaded with heavy stuff... then one day it gets slammed shut,. The resulting weird angles jam the lock release pins into the striker...sometimes you can remove the hinge screws, then slide a long super thin screwdriver across the top opening of the glove box and ,using the screwdriver tip, manually release the lock pin on the outboard side.. ..the object is to put vertical pressure on the driver side lock release pin to" hold it in place" , while maneuvering the long thin screwdriver across the top and releasing the outbd release3 pin...,,once one lock release pin is unhooked from the striker, a quick left- to right- motion with the free-hanging box usually will allow the drivers side lock pin to fall free.. a glovebox loaded with heavy stuff, and a loose lock/striker can multiply the difficulty level ....

or method # 2,before removing the hinge screws, try centering the glove box and then snugging the hinge screws down. You might get lucky and it will open.
If I can remember right, once the hinge screws are removed, you'll play devil getting them back in without complete box removal..

It's not easy. And will take patience juggling the parts...


Any E30 with a 'glove box lite flickers at night/or stays on/ loose /difficult closing/needs/ to be slammed in order to latch glove box.complaint. should have the glove box inspected,and all all hardware in place;then adjusted and tightened to avoid this issue.
A heavy/ filled with stuff box will mask loose hardware...then one day...surprise....

Good luck!
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:37 AM
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It sounds like U have done this before. I can't find the hinge screws. I have looked high and low. Would U have a picture or be able to point me to a website with one. It would be really helpful.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:19 AM
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Yep , been there a few times, usually after a vandalism....you should find the screws across the bottom- of the box..towards the firewall, .pointing upwards , a row of them...forget how many..4-6 ?? some may have fallen out. and may be laying under the floor mat
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:43 AM
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I found 3 screws pointing upwards and 3 pointing into the glove-box. Do I need to remove the screws all the way or just loosen them? Are the lock pins horizontal, that is I press the pin sideways to release it?
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:42 AM
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It's been awhile since I've had one apart..so I don't remember exactly...one set of screws mount the hinge to the under dash frame....the other set mounts the hinge to the box.

might have to loosen a set at a time...move the box some , to determine which set you want to remove.....usually the easiest to re-install...

you will be pushing the lock pins together....towards the center of the lock assy.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:23 PM
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I think I get it. Do I need to remove the screws all the way or just loosen them sufficiently?
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:06 PM
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If the box is full of stuff and heavy...leave one row in to support the weight...otherwise just do your best
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:58 PM
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I remove the screws holding the hinge and tried to press the pins holding the glove box closed to no avail. I used a small inspection camera to look inside the glove box but it didn't help. Finally, I cut 45 degree corners off the glove box handle and drilled out the two screws that hold it on. The glove box came right open. I the ordered a new handle from ebay. It cost about 36$. It should come sometime this week.

I think if I had to do it all over again I would just leave the screws that hold the hinge on and cut the corners off the glove box handle and drill out the screws. It is relatively easy and the box just opens. The drawback is you need to buy a new handle. I guess either way you need to buy the latch because the old one is broken (that's why the box doesn't open in the first place.)

I used a dremel tool to cut the tabs off the handle. It took a few minutes but didn't damage the dash in any way. I then drilled out the screws and they came right out. It was easy-peasy-pelican-easy! Good luck for all you guys with glove boxes that won't open!

PS: I hope it goes back together okay!

Thanks for your help!!!
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:30 AM
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I hope I don't gross ya'all out too much here with my hillbilly solution. Same thing happened to me about 6 months ago. I messed with it for awhile with no luck. I forget what, but I had some stuff in there I really wanted out in short order so I got pissed and slid one of my flat bars into the space at the top and and banged on it with a hammer with uber-force in a downward manner. Oddly enough, it opened after a few strikes. F*** with me, will ya.

The boneyards had an unusual paucity of E30s that week and I could not find a door with latch. So I made my own setup. I actually like it better than stock as I can close it even when it's over full. In addition, I done got me a woody.

What? What did you think I meant?

Pics below, I put some oak across the top and used an old seat belt and some Velcro at the top to hold it shut. I used 4 aluminum machine screw/threaded grommet dealies to hold on the oak and polyurethane construction adhesive to hold the Velcro on. That was the part I was worried about, that is, would the glue be durable. So far no hint of giving way.







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Old 08-05-2013, 06:17 PM
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Cool, U might try some neodymium magnets to hold it closed. north to south all along the top. When I stopped by our local scrap yard I saw another one held closed in a similar manner! Great minds think alike.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:45 PM
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I've run across some seriously strong magnets in the recent past. Just put up a magnetic kitchen knife holder for a client, about 16 inches long, couple inches wide. You mount a steel strip that fits inside the piece that contains the magnets and then just magnetically attach it to the strip. You can pinch your fingers if you're not careful, so strong is the pull.

I suppose I shouldn't keep so much in the glove box but I can't tell you how many times I had to fight to get the dang thing closed, with the old latch setup that is. Rearrange stuff, take stuff out, finally the damn thing would shut. With my patented hillbilly adaptation, I can more or less close it even when it's way too full.
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