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Old 07-22-2013, 08:49 AM
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Winter wheels and tires : which to choose?

Hi all.

I know I'm a bit early on this but I would love the have the information before fall arrives and all tire shops become busy. We just got our 335i Xdrive with M Sport and the 19" wheels (403M), and I have a few questions (keep in mind this is a leased car so the set is probably going to be sold after 3 years, unless it fits the next car) :

1) What kind of winter rims is it preferable to put? Replicas? Cheapest brand? Does it really matter other than for the looks? And where to buy them? I was thinking about 1010tires.com (equivalent to TireRack here in Canada).

2) I'm guessing 18" is standard... is there any need to go 17"?

3) About tires, my wife does a lot of highway and conditions get harsh here sometimes, so I plan on getting her the best, even if it means paying extra $ (was thinking about Blizzak's or X-ice series). No cheap stuff here. Any suggestions?

4) RFT or not? This car doesn't have room for a spare tire. Also getting non-RFT's would mean buying 5 wheels/tires... is it just cheaper to go with RFT (and cross our fingers we don't get a flat tire)? Edit : It seems like they don't make winter RFT?

What did you guys choose for your cars?

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Old 07-22-2013, 08:55 AM
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Many 17's do not clear the 335 brakes.

I run non RFTs all year round, it's a personal choice.

I picked up a set of Oz SupperLeggeras, a 17x8" wheel that is very light and strong and clears most big brakes. They were used once by a friend to test fit, sold to me as pretty much new. I run Dunlop Sport M3s, 235/45/17. If you were closer, I have my winter set for sale lol.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:02 AM
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Thanks. Didn't think about the brakes!
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:55 AM
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Hi all.

I know I'm a bit early on this but I would love the have the information before fall arrives and all tire shops become busy. We just got our 335i Xdrive with M Sport and the 19" wheels (403M), and I have a few questions (keep in mind this is a leased car so the set is probably going to be sold after 3 years, unless it fits the next car) :

1) What kind of winter rims is it preferable to put? Replicas? Cheapest brand? Does it really matter other than for the looks? And where to buy them? I was thinking about 1010tires.com (equivalent to TireRack here in Canada).

2) I'm guessing 18" is standard... is there any need to go 17"?

3) About tires, my wife does a lot of highway and conditions get harsh here sometimes, so I plan on getting her the best, even if it means paying extra $ (was thinking about Blizzak's or X-ice series). No cheap stuff here. Any suggestions?

4) RFT or not? This car doesn't have room for a spare tire. Also getting non-RFT's would mean buying 5 wheels/tires... is it just cheaper to go with RFT (and cross our fingers we don't get a flat tire)? Edit : It seems like they don't make winter RFT?

What did you guys choose for your cars?

Aero.
#2 given the bad state of montreal area roads, i would suggest 17" wheels.

#3 You can check here for a list of performance winter tires rated by the APA. http://apa.ca/WinterTires2011-Performance.asp

#4 They do make a few winter RFT, but most winter tires are not available as RFTs.
I think the last time i checked 1010tires, they had 2 kinds for 17" rims that would fit my car.


I am currently leaning towards a set of Pirelli Winter 210 Sottozero Series II RFTs.

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Old 07-22-2013, 09:58 AM
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I cannot recommend Michelin Ice X tires enough. They are excellent, with wonderful road manners when things are dry. They served me quite well this past winter in PA and my wife has had them on her car for 3 years now, excellent tires.

Mount them on whatever approx $100 rim from tire rack will fit your car. These are a great option:

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...lar=Sport+Line
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:04 AM
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I cannot recommend Michelin Ice X tires enough. They are excellent, with wonderful road manners when things are dry. They served me quite well this past winter in PA and my wife has had them on her car for 3 years now, excellent tires.

Mount them on whatever approx $100 rim from tire rack will fit your car. These are a great option:

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...lar=Sport+Line
Yes the x-ice tires are good (they also ranked well in the passerger vehicle rating on the apa site http://apa.ca/WinterTires2011-PassengerCars.asp).

I have them as my winter tires on my other car.

For the Sport Edition A7s... you can also buy a set of roundels for the middle of the rim to replace the logo. They also make them in black if you like that.

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Old 07-22-2013, 11:00 AM
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If you have the blue brake calipers you need 18 inch wheels. I use 18inch Blizzak LM60. Get blizzak WS70 if you want the best winter traction. use whatever rim you like as long as it fits the tires. I never used winter RFT never got a flat in 5 years. and besides when it snows alot, the snow fills the potholes and stuff so low chance to get flat. but in summer i use RFT
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:02 AM
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:15 AM
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Funny, my winter wheel set just arrived last Friday from TireRack (if the TireRack guys are reading - super fast shipping to an overseas location, so thanks!)... I got the Michelin X-ice X3 and a set of $90 rims for a 2014 328i RWD.

For the possible blow out during the winter, I got a Slime 70005 from Amazon (I was a Boy Scout!).
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:52 PM
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Many 17's do not clear the 335 brakes.

I run non RFTs all year round, it's a personal choice.

I picked up a set of Oz SupperLeggeras, a 17x8" wheel that is very light and strong and clears most big brakes. They were used once by a friend to test fit, sold to me as pretty much new. I run Dunlop Sport M3s, 235/45/17. If you were closer, I have my winter set for sale lol.
Thanks for that info.

Do they clear 328 brakes? Winter is fast approaching ..
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:07 PM
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Thanks for that info.

Do they clear 328 brakes? Winter is fast approaching ..
Well yeah, they were on my car last season-so they fit :P

I just have a bit of wheel A.D.D, otherwise I should not sell/trade them. I have also not seen them on the car since I lowered it. So if no one buys them, I might wind up being smitten with them all over again.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:17 PM
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:35 PM
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Well yeah, they were on my car last season-so they fit :P

I just have a bit of wheel A.D.D, otherwise I should not sell/trade them. I have also not seen them on the car since I lowered it. So if no one buys them, I might wind up being smitten with them all over again.
Thanks.

Do you advise buying a separate set of wheels in addition to tires?

Probably going with Blizzaks, but am unsure as to what to do regarding wheels.

I'm also only leasing and likely won't head out if the winter is bad, and also can rely on public transportation or working from home, so am on the fence at present.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:47 PM
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Thanks.

Do you advise buying a separate set of wheels in addition to tires?

Probably going with Blizzaks, but am unsure as to what to do regarding wheels.

I'm also only leasing and likely won't head out if the winter is bad, and also can rely on public transportation or working from home, so am on the fence at present.
Yes, dedicated wheel and tires for winter is the way to go.

You can always sell the set after the lease.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:05 PM
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Yes, dedicated wheel and tires for winter is the way to go.

You can always sell the set after the lease.
Any recommendations on where to get wheels?

Seems like there are plenty of local tire racks with deals at present.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:11 PM
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Any recommendations on where to get wheels?

Seems like there are plenty of local tire racks with deals at present.
TireRack has a summer clearance, that is a good place to start.
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Winter wheels and tires : which to choose?

I'm under the impression that the winter wheel choice DOES make a difference. My reasoning is because, on my last car (an e60 5 series), I started getting flats on all four tires without punctures....I presume due to corroding rims. It got to the point where I'd get a flat so often that id have to stop driving the car in the winter....and i was continually taking the rims in to get refinished to diminish the leaks. The harsh salt can have an effect on the rims if we're careless with winter wheel choice, correct?


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TireRack has a summer clearance, that is a good place to start.
I'm probably going to get bent over when I buy the wheels and tires.

I'm moving in the fall and my bonus won't he here til shortly thereafter, and don't want to really drop another 1K right now.

Thanks for that company info though!
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:23 PM
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I'm under the impression that the winter wheel choice DOES make a difference. My reasoning is because, on my last car (an e60 5 series), I started getting flats on all four tires without punctures....I presume due to corroding rims. It got to the point where I'd get a flat so often that id have to stop driving the car in the winter....and i was continually taking the rims in to get refinished to diminish the leaks. The harsh salt can have an effect on the rims if we're careless with winter wheel choice, correct?


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It's interesting because everyone talked about tires, but no one seems to know about wheels... I'm guessing your theory would apply if you keep the wheels for many years. As for me, it's a 3-year lease and the whole set is probably going to be sold.

Question 1 : If getting replicas (click), can I add a BMW and M logo on the wheels? If so, how to do it and where to get them?
Question 2 : My current set is staggered, but does my winter set have to be also staggered? If I don't go staggered, how does this translate into handling/stability/winter traction?

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one option if you have very bad roads is to not only go with 17s, but to upsize the tires.
i run 225/55/17 bridgestone blizzak lm32 runflats on sport edition A7 rims for winter.
between the rims and the increased profile, an extra inch of sidewall to guard against sidewall damage from potholes.
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It's interesting because everyone talked about tires, but no one seems to know about wheels... I'm guessing your theory would apply if you keep the wheels for many years. As for me, it's a 3-year lease and the whole set is probably going to be sold.

Question 1 : If getting replicas (click), can I add a BMW and M logo on the wheels? If so, how to do it and where to get them?
Question 2 : My current set is staggered, but does my winter set have to be also staggered? If I don't go staggered, how does this translate into handling/stability/winter traction?
Q2: no, it does not. a square, narrow setup is best for deep snow. a square setup will understeer less.
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@Orient330iNYC : thanks for your answers. Do you have pics of your 17"s on your car? I'm worried that going from 19" to 17" will take some getting used to (in terms of aesthetics) in the first few weeks...
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Winter wheels and tires : which to choose?

I went with 18" black wheels VMR CSL, square setup for my "is". Did a good job last winter. They came with bmw caps and M logos. I chose Pirelli winter tires. Hope it helps


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Nokian Hakkapelita's.

I've run them for the last 8 winters on E93, E90, and F30 models, I swear by them.

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Question 2 : My current set is staggered, but does my winter set have to be also staggered? If I don't go staggered, how does this translate into handling/stability/winter traction?
No, you can go square - use the size of the front tire/wheel - probably 225/45R18.
Smaller is generally better for snow, but you might notice a bit more oversteer tendancies (less understeer) on dry pavement. Note that the xIce is not a performance tire - the Michelin Pilot Alpine PA3 is and will handle closer to your summer tires. However, they're not as good as a pure snow tire in snow. Bridgestone also has performance Blizzaks and non-performance models.
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