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Old 07-24-2013, 08:23 AM
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15000 miles? Really?

I don't wanna start a head butting contest, which is usually what happens when oil change intervals are discussed, but does anyone else besides me think 15000 miles is a little on the high side to do an oil change? I have had a lot of high end cars, using syn oil, and nothing has come close to going that long for an oil change. I have always done my own oil changes, but my factory warranty is still in place, and having no dipstick really bugs me, so I will be going to BMW for the job. I'm just surprised about that many miles for an interval. Wow!
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:27 AM
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Plan on keeping the car after warranty is done? If so, change at 6-7.5K. Please.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:33 AM
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Plan on keeping the car after warranty is done? If so, change at 6-7.5K. Please.
Now that's more like it! And yes, I want some longevity in this baby! My care has 27600 on it, so the next interval will come soon, but after that, it will be at 7500 for sure! What can I expect to pay at BMW for this service?
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:37 AM
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Now that's more like it! And yes, I want some longevity in this baby! My care has 27600 on it, so the next interval will come soon, but after that, it will be at 7500 for sure! What can I expect to pay at BMW for this service?
Like a hundred bucks, less if your dealer gives out those coupon things. Probably better off finding an independent to do it for you if you'd rather not do it yourself, but it's incredibly easy.

Drain, catch it in a pan, seal up. Fill 7 quarts. Get the BMW brand 5W-30 from dealer + filter, or Castrol if you can find it cheaper.
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I have NO problem doing it myself gentlemen, so it will be done!

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I have NO problem doing it myself gentlemen, so it will be done!

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I just read in bimmerpost all 2014 models are now 10k oil change intervals that dealers will do as part of the maintance program. What about 2013 models and below. What a bunch of crap! They better do it for all cars still under warranty.


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Old 07-24-2013, 09:13 AM
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If you're leasing, it doesn't matter, but if planning to buy or financing, do them at 6-7 IMO. I'm just old school I guess.
How long do people usually keep their cars? I think most people trade it in after 4 or 5 years... ( especially when the warranty runs out ). By then, whatever you do as far as changing the oil intervals from 15K to 6K or 7K wouldn't make much difference except to allow you to sleep better at night.. in my opinion.. If you keep your cars for 10 years maybe maybe not...

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15000 miles? Really?

Someone pointed out in another thread, you can get the 5qt containers of Mobil 1 0w-40 at Walmart for $22 (USD). Pick up a couple and a filter and your oil change is around $40 bucks (per change by the quart cost). Not too bad.


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Someone pointed out in another thread, you can get the 5qt containers of Mobil 1 0w-40 at Walmart for $22 (USD). Pick up a couple and a filter and your oil change is around $40 bucks (per change by the quart cost). Not too bad.


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I dont think mobile 1 is on the "approved" bmw list of oils though. Certain version of castor oil are. If I were doing this, especially doing it myself, I would want to make sure I was using something on the approved list at least as long as I had a warranty.

A person certainly would not want to be denied a warranty claim because they used the wrong oil, and we all know insurance (warranty) companies use any and all means to get out of paying claims...
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:52 AM
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Dealers almost always have oil change special coupons online. Right now BMW of Silver Spring has a $79 special with up to 7 quarts of synthetic oil. Every dealer I have ever dealt with honors other dealers coupons. I always check the dealer service specials sections of thier websites before bringing the car in. Just be ready for about $2,000 in recommended services as part of their complementary XX point check.

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I dont think mobile 1 is on the "approved" bmw list of oils though. Certain version of castor oil are. If I were doing this, especially doing it myself, I would want to make sure I was using something on the approved list at least as long as I had a warranty.

A person certainly would not want to be denied a warranty claim because they used the wrong oil, and we all know insurance (warranty) companies use any and all means to get out of paying claims...
Mobil 1 0W-40 is LL-01 approved and is suitable for use in your BMW. The search tool on the forum will yield a great deal of information and useful links.

Here is one: http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ngineOils.aspx
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Mobil 1 0W-40 is LL-01 approved and is suitable for use in your BMW. The search tool on the forum will yield a great deal of information and useful links.

Here is one: http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ngineOils.aspx
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How long do people usually keep their cars? I think most people trade it in after 4 or 5 years... ( especially when the warranty runs out ). By then, whatever you do as far as changing the oil intervals from 15K to 6K or 7K wouldn't make much difference except to allow you to sleep better at night.. in my opinion.. If you keep your cars for 10 years maybe maybe not...

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Good point, my car's over 7 years old, but I plan on keeping it another 3 years at least above and beyond 200K miles (150K now). I make sure I do regular interval maintenance and swap out suspension bits, tires (obviously), and regular oil changes. It's cheap insurance in the end.
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I don't wanna start a head butting contest, ... I'm just surprised about that many miles for an interval. Wow!
As others have said: if you feel like you have to, go ahead and change it - most use 7500 miles.

But you should be aware that Porsche (and I believe MB, Audi, and other EU manufacturers) also uses a long change interval (Porsche has since 1997 at least) of around 15K miles or greater. Please note the ACEA specification - the BMW LL-01 oil spec is essentially an ACEA A3/B4 - which says "A3/B3 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines and/or for extended drain intervals where specified by the engine manufacturer, and/or for year-round use of low viscosity oils, and/or for severe operating conditions as defined by the engine manufacturer.
A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline and direct injection diesel engines, but also suitable for applications described under A3/B3."

http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Oil_Labelling_Explained#ACEA is a good explanation.
Also http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/ has all the scoop on oils.

BTW, you could easily have found what people think by searching a little more diligently.
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I don't wanna start a head butting contest, which is usually what happens when oil change intervals are discussed, but does anyone else besides me think 15000 miles is a little on the high side to do an oil change? I have had a lot of high end cars, using syn oil, and nothing has come close to going that long for an oil change. I have always done my own oil changes, but my factory warranty is still in place, and having no dipstick really bugs me, so I will be going to BMW for the job. I'm just surprised about that many miles for an interval. Wow!

O ye of so few posts....you got some readin' to do!

Routinely done in Europe, and now here, qualifying synthetic oils have no problem going 15k mi. If you change more often for whatever, no prob.

However, your car has a couple o'sensors that determine oil condition. How do they do that? Here comes that readin' again....[start here]
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I'm not posting in support of the 15k oil change interval, but the fact of the matter is BMW has been using that interval since the E46 and it has not resulted in any kind of increase in oil related engine failures. Also, this recommendation was not related to the BMW maintenance plan as it was instituted prior to the introduction of covered maintenance.
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so I wonder why one person on here or maybe 2 threw rods in their BMW at less than 30K miles, I know I read 2 posts within the last few months

6000K for me, and oil is cheap, engines are NOT
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15000 miles? Really?

An oil analysis is also a good idea if you want to run longer intervals. I use Blackstone Labs.


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