Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 (2012 - current)

F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 (2012 - current)
The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-24-2013, 09:49 AM
namelessman namelessman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: northern california
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,612
Mein Auto: bimmer
BMW Revises 2014+ MY Oil change to 10k interval

FYI, a post at another enthusiast forum shows a memo from BMW(Attachment 5 to SI B000113) indicating the new 2014 CBS intervals for all vehicles. I wonder if on the next oil change the dealer will reprogram 2012/2013 with the new intervals. Any thoughts on this?
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 07-24-2013, 10:05 AM
fleuger99 fleuger99 is offline
Registered User
Location: MA
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 94
Mein Auto: Volvo XC90 & BMW R1200R
I had a 2002 X5 3.0 and that was 10K miles. So was my 2009 330XI. What has changed?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-24-2013, 10:15 AM
namelessman namelessman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: northern california
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,612
Mein Auto: bimmer
Quote:
Originally Posted by fleuger99 View Post
I had a 2002 X5 3.0 and that was 10K miles. So was my 2009 330XI. What has changed?
MY 2012 and 2013 F30 CBS is programmed to 15K/24 months, I believe the same is true for MY 2011 onwards F10, not sure about other models.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-24-2013, 10:17 AM
fleuger99 fleuger99 is offline
Registered User
Location: MA
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 94
Mein Auto: Volvo XC90 & BMW R1200R
Quote:
Originally Posted by namelessman View Post
MY 2012 and 2013 F30 CBS is programmed to 15K/24 months, I believe the same is true for MY 2011 onwards F10, not sure about other models.
Personally, I think that is stretching it. I wonder if it was a decision based on the increased cost of free service for 4Yrs/50K miles versus a technical decision?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-24-2013, 10:36 AM
elistan elistan is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Longmont, CO
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 342
Mein Auto: F30 328i, AP1 S2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by namelessman View Post
FYI, a post at another enthusiast forum shows a memo from BMW(Attachment 5 to SI B000113) indicating the new 2014 CBS intervals for all vehicles. I wonder if on the next oil change the dealer will reprogram 2012/2013 with the new intervals. Any thoughts on this?
Yes, that's my experience.

When I got my 2013 F30, it indicated the next service would be in 15k miles. I took it in for its indicated oil change at 15k miles, and when I got it back it estimated the next service to be in 10k miles. I'm at 19k right now, and it's saying 6k miles. The service advisor didn't mention any updates to my car's software (and I didn't ask) so I don't know if this is the result of a reprogram, or if the car came programmed that way from the factory.

For what it's worth, the 2014 F30 Ordering Guide for the US still indicates a 15k mile oil change interval.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-24-2013, 11:02 AM
namelessman namelessman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: northern california
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,612
Mein Auto: bimmer
Quote:
Originally Posted by elistan View Post
Yes, that's my experience.

When I got my 2013 F30, it indicated the next service would be in 15k miles. I took it in for its indicated oil change at 15k miles, and when I got it back it estimated the next service to be in 10k miles. I'm at 19k right now, and it's saying 6k miles. The service advisor didn't mention any updates to my car's software (and I didn't ask) so I don't know if this is the result of a reprogram, or if the car came programmed that way from the factory.

For what it's worth, the 2014 F30 Ordering Guide for the US still indicates a 15k mile oil change interval.
Thanks for the info, I will make sure the dealer does the same in my upcoming oil change.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-24-2013, 11:10 AM
lewes2 lewes2 is offline
Chuck
Location: Delaware Beach
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 111
Mein Auto: 02 330cic, 13 335i
When I had my car in for the dealer to recode the ASS, I mentioned to the service rep that I wanted the oil changed at 1200 because I'm and old fart and strongly believe in changing the oil after break in.

Of course, he got a pained look on his face and went through the usual "BMW recommends 14k miles for the first oil change . . . . " blah blah blah. Then he said something curious, to wait until about 2,500 miles because BMW oil has a additive for beak in. ???

In any event, I'll be curious to see if they reset the service duration, lowering it to 10k miles.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-24-2013, 11:49 AM
hans007 hans007 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: los angeles
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 441
Mein Auto: 2013 328i m-sport EB2
doesn't the computer measure oil quality and adjust on the new cars?

i've got under 7000 miles on my car and it says i need a service in 3500 or so...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-24-2013, 12:36 PM
elistan elistan is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Longmont, CO
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 342
Mein Auto: F30 328i, AP1 S2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by hans007 View Post
doesn't the computer measure oil quality and adjust on the new cars?

i've got under 7000 miles on my car and it says i need a service in 3500 or so...
Very interesting! Do you recall what it was indicating when you picked it up from the dealer? (And has it every been in for any sort of service?) I wonder if it said 10k miles right away, of if your driving pattern is particularly harsh on oil.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-24-2013, 12:48 PM
Saintor's Avatar
Saintor Saintor is offline
Abuser of everything
Location: MTL
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,838
Mein Auto: BMW E90 2007
There was nothing wrong with 2 yrs / 15000 miles. They just need to improve their service income.

However I agree with their 60K spark plugs change rather than 100K. I had problems with mines (3 events, 2SP and 1 coil) just past 60K. I finally changed all SP.
__________________
2007 E90 AW 323i Step | Lowered 1.25"/1" | BMW Performance Exhaust | Debadged | Scangauge II | Style 162 18" & 161 17" wheels & rear 15mm spacers

Last edited by Saintor; 07-24-2013 at 01:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-24-2013, 12:49 PM
Dave 20T's Avatar
Dave 20T Dave 20T is offline
Moderator
Location: Seattle, WA; Vancouver, B.C.
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,845
Mein Auto: '13 320i, occ. use of X3
Saab went from 15k mi. to 10k in 2006. Their excuse was the oil is still good but cars needed inspection for wear and damage sooner, hence 10k.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-24-2013, 01:08 PM
vercetti0 vercetti0 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Brooklyn
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 219
Mein Auto: 2014 BMW 535i xdrive
Quote:
Originally Posted by elistan View Post
Very interesting! Do you recall what it was indicating when you picked it up from the dealer? (And has it every been in for any sort of service?) I wonder if it said 10k miles right away, of if your driving pattern is particularly harsh on oil.

I have a 2011 e92 when I got in 2011 the interval said 15k after driving it showed me that I needed to go get oil change at 9100 miles.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-24-2013, 01:28 PM
elistan elistan is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Longmont, CO
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 342
Mein Auto: F30 328i, AP1 S2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by vercetti0 View Post
I have a 2011 e92 when I got in 2011 the interval said 15k after driving it showed me that I needed to go get oil change at 9100 miles.
Sounds like your driving style was harsh on oil. Lots of short trips perhaps, where the engine doesn't spend much time fully warmed up?

Most of my first 15k miles was spent driving 45 miles twice a weekday - a significant amount of time spent fully warmed up, cruising at highway speeds, in mild Texas winter weather.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-24-2013, 01:34 PM
Weaselboy's Avatar
Weaselboy Weaselboy is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: USA
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,525
Mein Auto: 2014 335i F30 Sedan
Quote:
Originally Posted by namelessman View Post
MY 2012 and 2013 F30 CBS is programmed to 15K/24 months, I believe the same is true for MY 2011 onwards F10, not sure about other models.
I believe that 15,000 is just the starting point for the condition based service (CBS). Depending on your driving style that can move up or down. For example, my 2012 335i said 15,000 when I bought it, but now with 17,000 miles on it is showing service due in 400 miles... so it would be at 17,400 when finally showing a oil change due.

I suspect the CBS moved the interval out due to the fact much of my mileage was long distance freeway miles.

I had the annual, low-mileage change done in April, but this does not change the CBS mileage.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-24-2013, 01:53 PM
jlukja jlukja is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Long Beach, CA
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 816
Mein Auto: '13 328i
I thought it was 15K miles or 1 year, whichever comes first (MY2013).
__________________
MY2013 328i, N26 / 300 / 4CG / KCDF / 2DW / 205 / ZDH / 302 / 3DZ / 403 / 494

Last edited by jlukja; 07-24-2013 at 01:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-24-2013, 02:03 PM
elistan elistan is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Longmont, CO
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 342
Mein Auto: F30 328i, AP1 S2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlukja View Post
I thought it was 15K miles or 1 year, whichever comes first (MY2013).
The 2014 Ordering Guide says "8KC Oil Chg 15,000 miles/24 months" So two years?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-24-2013, 02:24 PM
hans007 hans007 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: los angeles
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 441
Mein Auto: 2013 328i m-sport EB2
Quote:
Originally Posted by elistan View Post
Very interesting! Do you recall what it was indicating when you picked it up from the dealer? (And has it every been in for any sort of service?) I wonder if it said 10k miles right away, of if your driving pattern is particularly harsh on oil.


i know at one point it said 12000 or 13000 more miles. so the total amount has decreased since i've owned my car. and well i drive my car a little more aggressively than like some random older lady so i just assumed it adjusted to driving style and could sense it in the oil.

i mean new hondas i know have a gauge that tells you your remaining oil quality or something like that so i know that technology is out there.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-24-2013, 02:39 PM
jlukja jlukja is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Long Beach, CA
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 816
Mein Auto: '13 328i
Quote:
Originally Posted by elistan View Post
The 2014 Ordering Guide says "8KC Oil Chg 15,000 miles/24 months" So two years?
Interesting...
__________________
MY2013 328i, N26 / 300 / 4CG / KCDF / 2DW / 205 / ZDH / 302 / 3DZ / 403 / 494
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-24-2013, 02:46 PM
Bratters123 Bratters123 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: United Kingdom
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 161
Mein Auto: BMW F30 330d M Sport
BMW Revises 2014+ MY Oil change to 10k interval

I believe it works on total fuel consumed.


Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-24-2013, 02:52 PM
Dippydo Dippydo is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Eden Prairie
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 720
Mein Auto: 2012 F30
My 2012 F30 is set for oil changes every 11k... Says on the dash...
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-24-2013, 02:55 PM
MotoWPK MotoWPK is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Colorado
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 210
Mein Auto: '13 128i vert, '14 X5 35d
Quote:
Originally Posted by namelessman View Post
FYI, a post at another enthusiast forum shows a memo from BMW(Attachment 5 to SI B000113) indicating the new 2014 CBS intervals for all vehicles. I wonder if on the next oil change the dealer will reprogram 2012/2013 with the new intervals. Any thoughts on this?
Source please.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-24-2013, 04:14 PM
namelessman namelessman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: northern california
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,612
Mein Auto: bimmer
Quote:
Originally Posted by MotoWPK View Post
Source please.
Not sure it is appropriate to quote other enthusiast forums, but here it is:
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=868291

Last edited by namelessman; 07-24-2013 at 04:22 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-24-2013, 04:25 PM
dmiller68 dmiller68 is offline
Registered User
Location: Kirkland, WA
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 44
Mein Auto: 2013 BMW 328i xDrive
I'm at 7967 and it says I have 6000 to go. Looks like mine is going to come out around 14,000.
__________________

2013 BMW 328xi M-Sport, Cold Weather, Lighting, Premium, Tech Packages, Paddle Shifters -- Estoril Blue
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-24-2013, 04:41 PM
MMME30W's Avatar
MMME30W MMME30W is offline
Super Moderator
Location: On The Move
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 14,175
Mein Auto: 2009 W906
Good call, BMW.

Due to turbos, I'm guessing?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-25-2013, 06:45 AM
MotoWPK MotoWPK is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Colorado
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 210
Mein Auto: '13 128i vert, '14 X5 35d
Quote:
Originally Posted by elistan View Post
Yes, that's my experience.

When I got my 2013 F30, it indicated the next service would be in 15k miles. I took it in for its indicated oil change at 15k miles, and when I got it back it estimated the next service to be in 10k miles. I'm at 19k right now, and it's saying 6k miles. The service advisor didn't mention any updates to my car's software (and I didn't ask) so I don't know if this is the result of a reprogram, or if the car came programmed that way from the factory.

For what it's worth, the 2014 F30 Ordering Guide for the US still indicates a 15k mile oil change interval.
While the referenced BMW memo (http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=868291 specifically states 2014 models produced as of July 2013, this may only be describing a change in production for new vehicles, not addressing a revision for previously produced vehicles which could be covered by a separate service bulletin directing dealers to recode the CBS basis as existing vehicles are brought in for service. That would make sense as how could BMW defend continuing a 15K/24 month CBS basis for the F30's manufactured prior to July 2013 while changing to a 10K/12 month basis for cars produced after?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 (2012 - current)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms