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I'm looking into a 2011 e92 328i. Reading about all the stories about these cars falling apart at 60-70k and needing thousands in preventative maintenance every year is giving me second thoughts about this car.

How much more does this car cost to maintain over any other car if I do it myself?
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Not much more really, even a Honda can get expensive when sh*t goes down the toilet. Just read up on big ticket items (waterpump/thermostat for example), and do repairs like you would on any other car.
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I'm looking into a 2011 e92 328i. Reading about all the stories about these cars falling apart at 60-70k and needing thousands in preventative maintenance every year is giving me second thoughts about this car.

How much more does this car cost to maintain over any other car if I do it myself?
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For DIY I would say about 10-15% more than a domestic late model car. Maybe 5% more than Japanese imports. They don't fall apart if maintained. My '07 335i has 94K miles and the only parts replaced are one set of tires, front and rear brakes, alternator pulley, serpentine belt and tensioner. About $2,200 in parts. All bets are off if you blow the engine or transmission. They cost about twice as much as a domestic model. I don't know anyone that has destroyed and engine that was stock.
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Not much more really, even a Honda can get expensive when sh*t goes down the toilet. Just read up on big ticket items (waterpump/thermostat for example), and do repairs like you would on any other car.
I bought my Honda new in 2003. Everything broke on that POS. A/C, power steering, window motors, HVAC vent motors, and the suspension fell apart. All before 100k miles.

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I bought my Honda new in 2003. Everything broke on that POS. A/C, power steering, window motors, HVAC vent motors, and the suspension fell apart. All before 100k miles.

Never again...
A car's a car, however anyone wants to look at it. We've had transmission issues on our Hondas, things go wrong on a Hyundai, and bits and pieces go to hell on a Chevy. It's all in the luck of the draw.
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For DIY I would say about 10-15% more than a domestic late model car. Maybe 5% more than Japanese imports. They don't fall apart if maintained. My '07 335i has 94K miles and the only parts replaced are one set of tires, front and rear brakes, alternator pulley, serpentine belt and tensioner. About $2,200 in parts. All bets are off if you blow the engine or transmission. They cost about twice as much as a domestic model. I don't know anyone that has destroyed and engine that was stock.
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I'm looking into a 2011 e92 328i. Reading about all the stories about these cars falling apart at 60-70k and needing thousands in preventative maintenance every year is giving me second thoughts about this car.

How much more does this car cost to maintain over any other car if I do it myself?



The toll is huge! Do not buy that car!
Few BMW's last beynod 75k mi and if they do, it is much more cost effective to just buy a new car. Thus, BMW has become a major volume manufacturer!

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You're much, much better off with a Lexus.

Scratch that - get an Accord or Civic. In fact, Civic - the aftermarket is large and varied - you can sport-o in one o'those all righty!

L-o-w o-v-e-r-h-e-a-d!
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The toll is huge! Do not buy that car!
Few BMW's last beynod 75k mi and if they do, it is much more cost effective to just buy a new car. Thus, BMW has become a major volume manufacturer!

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You're much, much better off with a Lexus.

Scratch that - get an Accord or Civic. In fact, Civic - the aftermarket is large and varied - you can sport-o in one o'those all righty!

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For DIY I would say about 10-15% more than a domestic late model car. Maybe 5% more than Japanese imports. They don't fall apart if maintained. My '07 335i has 94K miles and the only parts replaced are one set of tires, front and rear brakes, alternator pulley, serpentine belt and tensioner. About $2,200 in parts. All bets are off if you blow the engine or transmission. They cost about twice as much as a domestic model. I don't know anyone that has destroyed and engine that was stock.
That include what you paid for labor costs?
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The toll is huge! Do not buy that car!
Few BMW's last beynod 75k mi and if they do, it is much more cost effective to just buy a new car. Thus, BMW has become a major volume manufacturer!

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You're much, much better off with a Lexus.

Scratch that - get an Accord or Civic. In fact, Civic - the aftermarket is large and varied - you can sport-o in one o'those all righty!

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That include what you paid for labor costs?
No labor cost. I did it myself. I thought your post asked for the DIY perspective.

Upcoming costs. I will be replacing my plugs next month, for about $67 in parts.

Struggling with proactive replacement of the electic coolant pump and thermostat. I can get those parts for around $500 including new coolant. I hear of a lot of failures at around 60K miles so I feel I may be on borrowed time.
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No labor cost. I did it myself. I thought your post asked for the DIY perspective.

Upcoming costs. I will be replacing my plugs next month, for about $67 in parts.

Struggling with proactive replacement of the electic coolant pump and thermostat. I can get those parts for around $500 including new coolant. I hear of a lot of failures at around 60K miles so I feel I may be on borrowed time.
I was asking from a DIY perspective, I didn't know if you were.

What was the most expensive? I'm guessing tires?
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I was asking from a DIY perspective, I didn't know if you were.

What was the most expensive? I'm guessing tires?
Continental run-flats. $1,100 installed.

I buy my parts from www.getbmwparts.com. You may be able to get aftermarked cheaper on some items.
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No labor cost. I did it myself. I thought your post asked for the DIY perspective.

Upcoming costs. I will be replacing my plugs next month, for about $67 in parts.

Struggling with proactive replacement of the electic coolant pump and thermostat. I can get those parts for around $500 including new coolant. I hear of a lot of failures at around 60K miles so I feel I may be on borrowed time.
Mine had the code in the back end for low-power, bought coolant, thermostat, pump with the 3 aluminum bolts, for around $470 from Bavauto. I got the Pierburg pump and Behr thermostat. DIY little over 5 hours, nothing difficult at all. Flushed old coolant, put new in. Bleed procedure 12 minutes. No problems.
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Mine had the code in the back end for low-power, bought coolant, thermostat, pump with the 3 aluminum bolts, for around $470 from Bavauto. I got the Pierburg pump and Behr thermostat. DIY little over 5 hours, nothing difficult at all. Flushed old coolant, put new in. Bleed procedure 12 minutes. No problems.
The 335i (N54) pump is about $100 more. I think it is 400 watts vs. 200 watts for the non-turbo.
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The 335i (N54) pump is about $100 more. I think it is 400 watts vs. 200 watts for the non-turbo.
Ah, gotcha. Well, procedure is similar, there's a couple of different steps as outlined in Bentley manual, but the job is relatively easy for someone who can turn a wrench.
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I bought my Honda new in 2003. Everything broke on that POS. A/C, power steering, window motors, HVAC vent motors, and the suspension fell apart. All before 100k miles.

Never again...
yours must of been a lemon. I've owned about 10-15 Honda/Acura in the past and most of them had up to 180k miles before I sold them and never had a single problem with any of them. The only maintenance I did was oil change every 5-7k miles. The only cars I trust are Japanese and if and when I sell my BMW I will go back and stick with Japanese cars for as long as I live.
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yours must of been a lemon. I've owned about 10-15 Honda/Acura in the past and most of them had up to 180k miles before I sold them and never had a single problem with any of them. The only maintenance I did was oil change every 5-7k miles. The only cars I trust are Japanese and if and when I sell my BMW I will go back and stick with Japanese cars for as long as I live.
Has your BMW been unreliable?
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Ah, gotcha. Well, procedure is similar, there's a couple of different steps as outlined in Bentley manual, but the job is relatively easy for someone who can turn a wrench.
Agreed.
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Agreed.
As long as you don't mind the odd splash of coolant on your face/shirt. My tip, get a big plastic container for the coolant, it'll pour out of everywhere.
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Has your BMW been unreliable?
I can't say since I just bought the 335i about 1 month ago with 72k miles and I've only driven it less than 5 times within the past month due to worrying about something going wrong. I'm actually thinking of selling it. I have my reliable Acura that I drive everyday.
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I can't say since I just bought the 335i about 1 month ago with 72k miles and I've only driven it less than 5 times within the past month due to worrying about something going wrong. I'm actually thinking of selling it. I have my reliable Acura that I drive everyday.
You don't drive it because you think it's going to break?
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You don't drive it because you think it's going to break?
well, I like driving the Acura more because gas is cheaper, I don't have a worry about door dings since the Acura is older and i could care less. I don't think the BMW will break, it most likely will since it's a BMW. Generally they don't last past 125k miles even if it was well maintain while you can beat the crap out of the Honda and it will still last at least 250k+ miles(from my experience)
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well, I like driving the Acura more because gas is cheaper, I don't have a worry about door dings since the Acura is older and i could care less. I don't think the BMW will break, it most likely will since it's a BMW. Generally they don't last past 125k miles even if it was well maintain while you can beat the crap out of the Honda and it will still last at least 250k+ miles(from my experience)
They are two COMPLETELY different brands?

Should have done your homework on the brand, they've flat out said that these cars require maintenance. There aren't really any secrets. If you want this level of precision and drive, you have to be willing to pay up.

I've got 152K on the clock, not a single issue other than what the "usual repairs" are, which include parts of the cooling system, wear/tear items, and some preventative maintenance that I would have done on ANY car I had. I don't leave my cars to rot hoping nothing will happen, Japanese or German. There are tons of members JUST HERE on this forum, that have well past 150K without any REAL issues.

You don't want to drive the BMW because the Acura has cheaper gas? We're talking low dollars here in difference. Sweet f*ck.

Also what kind of asinine statement is this? I don't think the BMW will break, it most likely will since it's a BMW. This oozes of common sense.

My opinion, sell the car, then go brag to everyone about how unreliable BMW is. That's what we need more of in this world, clueless people.
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