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Old 07-25-2013, 09:38 AM
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I'm going to throw it out there... I think the e9x M3 is one of the few cars in the world that I consider to be perfect. Thoughts?

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I'm going to throw it out there... I think the e9x M3 is one of the few cars in the world that I consider to be perfect. Thoughts?

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Nice post! My E93 6MT comes off lease next May, and I can't think of another car I would like to have as a replacement. Looks like I'll buy it at the end of the lease, and have many more years of great driving.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:33 AM
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Nice post! My E93 6MT comes off lease next May, and I can't think of another car I would like to have as a replacement. Looks like I'll buy it at the end of the lease, and have many more years of great driving.
It's hard to imagine the M4 being better than this... OFC if the weight savings plus the boost in HP and Torque are true we will have to see...
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:07 PM
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It's hard to imagine the M4 being better than this... OFC if the weight savings plus the boost in HP and Torque are true we will have to see...
There will always be better, faster, lighter, etc. The question to ask esp. for these types of lower production cars is whether they earn their right to be iconic long after end of production.

Time will tell, but I suspect we will see an interesting cult following and even more fascinating aftermarket long after production ends for the first and last M3 branded coupe with a normally aspirated V8 engine.

Edit: qualifying aftermarket as direct replacement for OE components long after BMW stops selling the parts. Like you see with the 2002 and the E30 M3. People will do anything to keep those cars road-worthy.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:18 PM
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There will always be better, faster, lighter, etc. The question to ask esp. for these types of lower production cars is whether they earn their right to be iconic long after end of production.

Time will tell, but I suspect we will see an interesting cult following and even more fascinating aftermarket long after production ends for the first and last M3 branded coupe with a normally aspirated V8 engine.

Edit: qualifying aftermarket as direct replacement for OE components long after BMW stops selling the parts. Like you see with the 2002 and the E30 M3. People will do anything to keep those cars road-worthy.
I have a feeling that the e9x will be pretty high in the pantheon of legend wait for it dary M cars. Just my personal opinion though. The question is will it be rare enough to contend with the e30 M, 1M, 2002, etc.
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I have a feeling that the e9x will be pretty high in the pantheon of legend wait for it dary M cars. Just my personal opinion though. The question is will it be rare enough to contend with the e30 M, 1M, 2002, etc.
I've seen enough wrecked E9x M3s on M3post.com to believe that 10 years from now, there will be about 250 E9x M3s left in the USA, thereby sealing my investment and enabling me to retire early.
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There will always be better, faster, lighter, etc. The question to ask esp. for these types of lower production cars is whether they earn their right to be iconic long after end of production.

Time will tell, but I suspect we will see an interesting cult following and even more fascinating aftermarket long after production ends for the first and last M3 branded coupe with a normally aspirated V8 engine.

Edit: qualifying aftermarket as direct replacement for OE components long after BMW stops selling the parts. Like you see with the 2002 and the E30 M3. People will do anything to keep those cars road-worthy.
Could you see this car getting the kinda status the gt500 exc. see now in the collectors world?

I'm wondering if I should dump it when I decide on the m5/m6/m6gc.
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Could you see this car getting the kinda status the gt500 exc. see now in the collectors world?
That's probably too extreme. I think it will be a well regarded car, with better than average resale value, and the low mileage ones that have been kept stock will be coveted like the E30 M3 is now. A mint one with 30K miles or less is worth more than the car was new.
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Well...quite frankly I don't see any other 2 door that offers the performance, luxury, versatility and pure driving enjoyment of the E9x M3.

But I might be a little biased.

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I'LL say it's VERY nice car but not perfect.
My M3 is a treasured car.
There are faster lighter & fun drives out there.
More will arrive from BMW and the changing competition.
Keep your eyes open.
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Very nice write up, Steven!!! I for one will NOT be buying an M4. I am not happy at all with the direction that ///Marketing has taken. Then next car in the stable will 100% be a Porsche 911. Until I can afford it, I'm going to drive this M3 and enjoy the hell out of it.
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Very nice write up, Steven!!! I for one will NOT be buying an M4. I am not happy at all with the direction that ///Marketing has taken. Then next car in the stable will 100% be a Porsche 911. Until I can afford it, I'm going to drive this M3 and enjoy the hell out of it.
I don't like that I notice it... It's really a shame you can m out any car.

I also don't like how many models are coming out 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,x1,x3,x5,x6

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I also don't like how many models are coming out 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,x1,x3,x5,x6
AMG and the M brand are both guilty here. But, they have to make money and stay competitive. When they get too far, the market will correct itself. Enthusiasts will stop buying, and someone will notice.

But for now, those badges will keep showing up.
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AMG and the M brand are both guilty here. But, they have to make money and stay competitive. When they get too far, the market will correct itself. Enthusiasts will stop buying, and someone will notice.

But for now, those badges will keep showing up.
Yeah you've been seeing amg branded cars all over since the late 90s/early 00s its just ashame bmw is picking that practice up.
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It's hard to imagine the M4 being better than this... OFC if the weight savings plus the boost in HP and Torque are true we will have to see...
My feelings exactly. I drive a ton of miles and my regret is my car will get too many miles to be worth keeping past a 3 year lease. I seriously considered buying another new M3 and "saving" it for later. Common sense prevailed and I dropped that idea, but this car is as close to perfect as I have been able to find regardless of price. I love the M6, but it does not have the same balance as the M3 and costs almost twice as much money. I hope the M4 lives up to its hype and the internet renderings on Bimmerpost are absolutely stunning. The real question is how will it drive, what will the balance be like and will it give the driver that awesome feeling that one gets in the E92 M3. I have owned an E46M, driven an E36M frequently and can say that BMW outdid themselves with the E92M. Just hope that they can raise the bar again with the F82.
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Very nice write up, Steven!!! I for one will NOT be buying an M4. I am not happy at all with the direction that ///Marketing has taken. Then next car in the stable will 100% be a Porsche 911. Until I can afford it, I'm going to drive this M3 and enjoy the hell out of it.
I thought about making the same choice myself and priced out a 911 the way I wanted it. Not too bad actually at 85-90k which is very close to expected F82 pricing fully loaded. The problem for me is that the 911 is just too small for a big guy like me (6 foot 5) and has zero trunk space. If I go Porsche I have to go Panamera which is also on my short list, but a very different type of car.
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Could you see this car getting the kinda status the gt500 exc. see now in the collectors world?

I'm wondering if I should dump it when I decide on the m5/m6/m6gc.
Oh..you are considering the M5/M6 too? They are on my short list for the next car depending on what BMW does with the M4. Since the better half has a big car (the x5M), I am inclined to stay with something smaller and more nimble.
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I thought about making the same choice myself and priced out a 911 the way I wanted it. Not too bad actually at 85-90k which is very close to expected F82 pricing fully loaded. The problem for me is that the 911 is just too small for a big guy like me (6 foot 5) and has zero trunk space. If I go Porsche I have to go Panamera which is also on my short list, but a very different type of car.
I'm only 5' 8" Honestly, I don't lug anything around. It has enough space for groceries which is all I'l need.
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I thought about making the same choice myself and priced out a 911 the way I wanted it. Not too bad actually at 85-90k which is very close to expected F82 pricing fully loaded. The problem for me is that the 911 is just too small for a big guy like me (6 foot 5) and has zero trunk space. If I go Porsche I have to go Panamera which is also on my short list, but a very different type of car.
We'll see what happens with the F80/F82, but if they turn them into baby M5/M6, then I'll be looking at the Cayman S. The 911 (991) is nice, but looks overpriced when compared to its sibling if you don't need the diminutive back seats (but then I guess what Porsche isn't overpriced, right?).

The Cayman S should be in the similar range as the F82.
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We'll see what happens with the F80/F82, but if they turn them into baby M5/M6, then I'll be looking at the Cayman S. The 911 (991) is nice, but looks overpriced when compared to its sibling if you don't need the diminutive back seats (but then I guess what Porsche isn't overpriced, right?).

The Cayman S should be in the similar range as the F82.
We will have to see what BMW does. I cannot fit in the Cayman as I am too tall. The 911 barely fits while the Panny is great for legroom.


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Very nice write up, Steven!!! I for one will NOT be buying an M4. I am not happy at all with the direction that ///Marketing has taken. Then next car in the stable will 100% be a Porsche 911. Until I can afford it, I'm going to drive this M3 and enjoy the hell out of it.
I've been quoted saying this before, if BMW does with the M badge and profitability like Porsche did with the Cayenne you will hear no complaints from me. As long as true M cars keep coming, it's all good to me. Plus, selfishly I like having more things to sell... It means more money and keeps me on my toes.


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I've been quoted saying this before, if BMW does with the M badge and profitability like Porsche did with the Cayenne you will hear no complaints from me. As long as true M cars keep coming, it's all good to me. Plus, selfishly I like having more things to sell... It means more money and keeps me on my toes.


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I agree it'll be good for the brand, but you also can't deny it dilutes the impact of it if the guy that buys the empty x1 has m-badges all over. Also Steve on most of the packages the M stuff is all badging and naming ... It really does nothing for performance which is what I tend to have a gripe with. If for instance each car had a 5-10k M package option that also added some performance related upgrades (lIke the m-package on the 2011 550i that also had DHP) I'd say ok its actually doing something, instead its kind of being in on the fad without actually having to go all in.

It may sound elitist and I'm trying to keeping people out or feeling superior but it would just bug me if some guy at the water cooler goes "Meh I drove an x1 msport and it sucked don't see why anyone would buy an M that thing handled like crap"
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