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Old 01-03-2017, 02:00 PM
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Tire recommendations

Hello, I drive a 2013 X3 35i and it's time for the tires.

I have decided to go non runflat with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+.

The stock size of the tires is 245/45/R19 102V.

Discount tire is suggesting I go with 255/45/R19 because the load index on the 245/45/R19 is 98 and the one on stock is 102.

Any issues with the suggested size? Or warranty issues later? Thanks.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:34 PM
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I have the exact same X3. 2013 35i with 19" M Sport wheels. 98Y is perfectly fine. I did the math and needed like 5 300 people in the car and full of luggage to be even close to the max weight.

The ride is a little better, less harsh than OEM run flats. Very sporty and grippy. There is more body roll due to sidewall not being as hard. Not a big deal. Highly recommend. I have about 1000 miles on them already.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:53 PM
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How long did the stock tires last everyone?? I have 25,100 miles. I had it rotated 2months back. The front wore out faster then the back. I think I have ~5-7k more miles on the back tires and 10k on the front now.


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Old 01-03-2017, 10:23 PM
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I have the exact same X3. 2013 35i with 19" M Sport wheels. 98Y is perfectly fine. I did the math and needed like 5 300 people in the car and full of luggage to be even close to the max weight.



The ride is a little better, less harsh than OEM run flats. Very sporty and grippy. There is more body roll due to sidewall not being as hard. Not a big deal. Highly recommend. I have about 1000 miles on them already.


Thank you. Discount tire is not willing to install them curing they don't match BMW spec. I will probably get the Pirelli P Zero AS+.


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Old 01-03-2017, 10:25 PM
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How long did the stock tires last everyone?? I have 25,100 miles. I had it rotated 2months back. The front wore out faster then the back. I think I have ~5-7k more miles on the back tires and 10k on the front now.


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I bought mine CPO and in total the car has about 50K miles. A pair were changed for certification the other pair have lasted 50K.


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Old 01-03-2017, 10:26 PM
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Any comments on the Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus?


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Old 01-04-2017, 12:26 AM
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Stick to OEM load index!
You can play with speed index, but load index is uber important. It is not only simple weight, but other forces that are present.
As for Pirelli, it is good tire, you will not make mistake. Consider Michelin Latitude HP also, and most favorite among Euro car owners, Continental Extreme Contact DWS06.
If I were buying I would go with:
1. Michelin Latitude HP
2. Continental DWS06.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:33 AM
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Stick to OEM load index!

You can play with speed index, but load index is uber important. It is not only simple weight, but other forces that are present.

As for Pirelli, it is good tire, you will not make mistake. Consider Michelin Latitude HP also, and most favorite among Euro car owners, Continental Extreme Contact DWS06.

If I were buying I would go with:

1. Michelin Latitude HP

2. Continental DWS06.


Okay. Both of these tires don't come in 245/45/R19 102 configuration.

I guess the choices for a 19" with 102 load index are crappy.


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Old 01-04-2017, 10:25 AM
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Any comments on the Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus?


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I have the Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus with revised compound on my 340i. So far so good but have only had them a little less than 2 weeks.

On our 2011 X3 35i with 19" square setup, I replaced the OEM Goodyear LS-2s with Michelin Primacy MXM4 ZP (run flat) tires in June 2014. They have the 102 load rating and I wanted to stay with run flats. We have been very pleased with the MXM4's ride quality, handling, tread wear, performance in rain / snow / ice, and lack of noise issues.

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Old 01-04-2017, 11:01 AM
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Okay. Both of these tires don't come in 245/45/R19 102 configuration.

I guess the choices for a 19" with 102 load index are crappy.


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Yeah, I was looking now. I think size is an issue.
I would personally go with Michelin MXM4 like BruceOmega did.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:31 AM
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I recently replaced my 245/45R-19s with the PS A/S3+ 255/45R-19s. No problems at all.

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Hello, I drive a 2013 X3 35i and it's time for the tires.

I have decided to go non runflat with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+.

The stock size of the tires is 245/45/R19 102V.

Discount tire is suggesting I go with 255/45/R19 because the load index on the 245/45/R19 is 98 and the one on stock is 102.

Any issues with the suggested size? Or warranty issues later? Thanks.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:15 PM
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Yeah, I was looking now. I think size is an issue.

I would personally go with Michelin MXM4 like BruceOmega did.


Good inputs. I notice that the warranty on MXM4's is 30K that means they will wear out much before 30K. I was looking for something that would last 40K/3 years. Thanks.


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Old 01-04-2017, 02:22 PM
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Recently Tire Rack started listing a Bridgestone Turanza EL450 RFT with the 102V rating in 245-45-19. Only one review on their site so far. I've always like Bridgestone, and am glad to see another option available. Anyone here have experience with that tire?
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:41 PM
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I have a 2012 X3 35i M-Sport with a squared-up setup with 245/45R19 on all four corners.

I ditched the LS2's and went with the Michelin A/S 3 (model before the AS3+). Unfortunately, however, the tire shop spec'd the tire with the wrong load rating (98). During the 15 - 20K miles I put on them I had a total of two tires suffer with sidewall bulges. I replaced the first one alone as the other tires were within 2 or 3/32" of each other. By the time the 2nd tire developed a bulge the three original tires were down to 4/32".

At this time, however, the tire shop admitted their mistake and offered to purchase all 4 tires plus the 5th tire I had already replaced back and apply the credit towards the purchase of the right tire.

It is possible that the lower load rating contributed to the low mileage and sidewall bulges.

As you are now finding out our tire choices for 245/45R19 102 are limited. I made a big compromise and went with the P7 All Season Grand Touring. It is a soft and very quiet running tire but is really "flexy" compared to the A/S 3. I really want to switch them out.

For those of you that went to 255/45R19 did you see any issues with the speedometer, DHP, differentials, etc?
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Old 01-04-2017, 03:07 PM
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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention the Continental DWS 06 (new version)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Contact+DWS+06

These have been spectacular and didn't break the bank either. If you ever think you might head up into snow or really rainy conditions, these are great.
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Old 01-04-2017, 03:11 PM
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The DWS 06 does not come in 245/45R19 102. What size and load rating did you use?
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Old 01-04-2017, 05:35 PM
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I have a 2012 X3 35i M-Sport with a squared-up setup with 245/45R19 on all four corners.



I ditched the LS2's and went with the Michelin A/S 3 (model before the AS3+). Unfortunately, however, the tire shop spec'd the tire with the wrong load rating (98). During the 15 - 20K miles I put on them I had a total of two tires suffer with sidewall bulges. I replaced the first one alone as the other tires were within 2 or 3/32" of each other. By the time the 2nd tire developed a bulge the three original tires were down to 4/32".



At this time, however, the tire shop admitted their mistake and offered to purchase all 4 tires plus the 5th tire I had already replaced back and apply the credit towards the purchase of the right tire.



It is possible that the lower load rating contributed to the low mileage and sidewall bulges.



As you are now finding out our tire choices for 245/45R19 102 are limited. I made a big compromise and went with the P7 All Season Grand Touring. It is a soft and very quiet running tire but is really "flexy" compared to the A/S 3. I really want to switch them out.



For those of you that went to 255/45R19 did you see any issues with the speedometer, DHP, differentials, etc?


The Michelin A/S 3's are warranted only for 20K. But I get that 98 load index is no good for the X3 35i with 19" wheels. Thanks for that info.


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Old 01-04-2017, 06:13 PM
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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention the Continental DWS 06 (new version)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Contact+DWS+06

These have been spectacular and didn't break the bank either. If you ever think you might head up into snow or really rainy conditions, these are great.
I mentioned before, but they do not make it in this size.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:59 AM
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I have the Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus with revised compound on my 340i. So far so good but have only had them a little less than 2 weeks.

On our 2011 X3 35i with 19" square setup, I replaced the OEM Goodyear LS-2s with Michelin Primacy MXM4 ZP (run flat) tires in June 2014. They have the 102 load rating and I wanted to stay with run flats. We have been very pleased with the MXM4's ride quality, handling, tread wear, performance in rain / snow / ice, and lack of noise issues.

Bruce
I have the Michelin Primacy MXM4 ZP RFTs on my '13 x3 3.5 m-sport that I've had for 10K miles. I wanted run flats for the peace of mind. The Michelins are supple enough, and handle well in dry or wet. I would definitely buy them again.
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:57 PM
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I see you've started another thread in the tire forum.

I replaced my LS2s almost immediately after delivery with PS A/S3s with the 98Y load rating and had no regrets -- two years of much improved handling and ride. I recently replaced that set with a set of PS AS/S3+ in 255/45R-19 100Y. I'll add that I don't drive my X3 at max GVWR -- the load rating might concern me more if I did.

As I posted above, no issues at all with a 10mm wider tire.

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I have a 2012 X3 35i M-Sport with a squared-up setup with 245/45R19 on all four corners.

I ditched the LS2's and went with the Michelin A/S 3 (model before the AS3+). Unfortunately, however, the tire shop spec'd the tire with the wrong load rating (98). During the 15 - 20K miles I put on them I had a total of two tires suffer with sidewall bulges. I replaced the first one alone as the other tires were within 2 or 3/32" of each other. By the time the 2nd tire developed a bulge the three original tires were down to 4/32".

At this time, however, the tire shop admitted their mistake and offered to purchase all 4 tires plus the 5th tire I had already replaced back and apply the credit towards the purchase of the right tire.

It is possible that the lower load rating contributed to the low mileage and sidewall bulges.

As you are now finding out our tire choices for 245/45R19 102 are limited. I made a big compromise and went with the P7 All Season Grand Touring. It is a soft and very quiet running tire but is really "flexy" compared to the A/S 3. I really want to switch them out.

For those of you that went to 255/45R19 did you see any issues with the speedometer, DHP, differentials, etc?
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Check out the BFG GForce Comp 2A, probably the best all around tire if you also care about light snow. The DWS is a great tire but has soft sidewalls and is more biased towards snow/winter driving.
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I mentioned before, but they do not make it in this size.
So I just checked, I'm running the DWS06 and they're 245/45/19...
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So I just checked, I'm running the DWS06 and they're 245/45/19...
...but what is the load rating on your tires? I see that they come in the right size but 98Y for the load rating. If we want to stay with what BMW spec'd it is 102.
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So I went with the Pirelli P Zero Nero because they were the only available ones at the store at that time. After driving for 3 weeks I find them very soft with a lot of body roll on cornering.

I am going to switch them with the Michelin A/S 3+ 255/45/R19 today.


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