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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 07-20-2013, 02:57 PM
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Question Made in the US X3 quality

How does the quality of the US made X3 compare to other German made BMW's?
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:27 PM
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How does the quality of the US made X3 compare to other German made BMW's?
I have a 2014 US-built F25 X3 and had a 2005 Austrian-built E83 X3. The 2014 has better materials. Build quality (material quality excepted) is about the same. I can find no defects in the 2014 and I found no defects in the 2005.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:50 AM
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Personally I don't see much difference between the two builds. The Dixie SAV/SUV seems just as solid as the one from the "old country". However the X1 DOES seem "tinner" than the X3 but I put that down to the class and cost more than the build. Now with Japanese cars I DO see a difference between the ones built here and the ones built in Japan. Not in the engineering, but in the assembling of the body and interior parts. There appears to be tighter QC in the Japanese built versions. Still that is not to say the cars are "bad, but the imported versions just seem screwed together a little better with more attention paid to the details IMHO.

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Old 07-21-2013, 07:17 AM
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The closest German made BMW to the X3 is the 3 series, in my opinion, the 3 series is not put together any better than the X3. I have read about lots of quality issues with the 3 series as well.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:19 AM
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It's too early to review...only had my X3 for 3+ weeks. However the fit and finish is real good. Not perfect. The interior is nicely done. The performance is a pleasure. I enjoyed getting it in 4 weeks instead of 10. My 06 was fabulous. Hope this is the same.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:47 PM
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Made in the US X3 quality

No build quality difference in our X3 and X1.


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Old 07-21-2013, 02:43 PM
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No build quality differences between my German-made E90 335i and my F25 X3.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:37 PM
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Seems quite good. I toured the factory for delivery and they seem to have everything running very well over there. Lots of quality control and the people working there seemed to take pride in their work.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:08 AM
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... the people working there seemed to take pride in their work.
I have to agree. We made a number of the yearly pilgrimages to Spartanburg for the Z3 Homecoming events. Each time, on one or two days, we were able to eat lunch in the factory cafeteria where we freely mingled and ate with the workers. They did indeed seem to take pride in what they did. I also noticed, without exception, these people were thrilled to work for BMW and their employee number, indicative of how long ago they were hired, was very important to them.

I don't think BMW does anything by chance. I am sure we would not have had the freedom to sit and talk with whomever we wanted had BMW had any concern about employee attitude. I also noticed as we walked through the factory on the guided tours, the workers were friendly, frequently looked up from their activity and smiled at us, and did not at all seem to mind a bunch of "tourists" in very close proximity to them. I have worked in large industrial facilities four forty years and I never before witnessed craft type workers so comfortable with outsiders in their work area. I think all this makes a very big positive statement about the Spartanburg facility.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:15 AM
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I find my 2013 X3 build quality to be about the same as the 2012 3-series.. but I also noticed a drop in the quality in the 2012 when compared to the 2006 3-series. that thing was a tank.

the seriously subjective things I use to judge build quality;
- interior matierials, dash, panels, buttons.. how clicky are they? do they feel cheap and hollow or does it give a nice solid click.
- exterior materials, paint and trim.. how does the door feel upon opening.. does it have a good weight to it, or does it fly open and closed. does it give a nice solid 'thud' when i shut it.
- noises; how high can i put the speakers/bass up before i start to hear distortion? when I'm making a long sharp turn, are there any 'creaks or squeaks' coming from anywhere in the car? wind noise on the highway?
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:06 AM
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I think build quality is largely predetermined by design and material choices. Most of the manufacturing is automated/robotic and components can come preassembled. It all comes down to the cost.. how much time and money they want to spend on mechanical tolerances and materials.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:06 PM
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I think build quality is largely predetermined by design and material choices. Most of the manufacturing is automated/robotic and components can come preassembled. It all comes down to the cost.. how much time and money they want to spend on mechanical tolerances and materials.
+1 it is mostly automated and setup the same in the US as Germany - works have very little to do with the equation anymore. Only thing that might make a difference would be the suppliers and their quality control of some things, like seats etc that are shipped in. Engines are all still made in Germany and the engine is the only component that uses a lot of human labor.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:23 AM
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The closest German made BMW to the X3 is the 3 series, in my opinion, the 3 series is not put together any better than the X3. I have read about lots of quality issues with the 3 series as well.
Actually, sir, the closest German made BMW to the X3 is... the 5 series. Same underpinnings.
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