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Old 08-01-2013, 03:21 PM
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Question Raceland coilovers?

What's the verdict on these things? $400 seems ridiculously cheap to me for a coilover setup but what do I know?

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Old 08-01-2013, 03:24 PM
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Some of them are known to break while driving into two pieces. Some aren't... my friend had some on his E36 328i for about 10k miles until one of the shocks died. Another has had some in his E46 for 15k+ miles and has no issues.
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What's the verdict on these things? $400 seems ridiculously cheap to me for a coilover setup but what do I know?

These ones specifically:
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For those of us who actually value our lives and want to have proper handling, we wouldn't even consider it.

A set of Koni Yellows isn't much more than $400 and a will outperform the racelands by a factor of 10. And have a lifetime warranty.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:20 PM
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I've spent the last 5 hours researching RaceLand, JOB, FK, RSK, DDM, you name it and it's become very apparent to me - any person stating some crap about "valuing life" knows nothing and has been regurgitating some crap from 4 years ago that was based on 2 unrelated incidents.

Incident #1) Kid reckless driving and blamed the suspension for his roll-over. Police report said otherwise. Suspension broke from the crash, not the other way around. Totally irrelevant.

Incident #2) DDM kit had unbelievably poor welds and car barely made it down the street when a weld broke free.

Incident #2 was definitely a safety issue but the way the E46 struts and shocks mount up, there's NO possible way that could be repeated on the E46.

So seriously - every single one of you guys rehashing this crap about safety -

SHUT THE F UP.
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I've spent the last 5 hours researching RaceLand, JOB, FK, RSK, DDM, you name it and it's become very apparent to me - any person stating some crap about "valuing life" knows nothing and has been regurgitating some crap from 4 years ago that was based on 2 unrelated incidents.

Incident #1) Kid reckless driving and blamed the suspension for his roll-over. Police report said otherwise. Suspension broke from the crash, not the other way around. Totally irrelevant.

Incident #2) DDM kit had unbelievably poor welds and car barely made it down the street when a weld broke free.

Incident #2 was definitely a safety issue but the way the E46 struts and shocks mount up, there's NO possible way that could be repeated on the E46.

So seriously - every single one of you guys rehashing this crap about safety -

SHUT THE F UP.

Didn't you start this thread to ask US about our opinions on raceland coilovers???

Go ahead and buy cheap coilovers, no one will stop you or give two shi%^ about it

Here you go, 63 pages for your reading pleasure: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=710693

Koni Yellows, lifetime warranty, under $600 for set. Done
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:43 AM
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Don't give me that crap about me starting the thread. You're damn right I started the thread which means if someone is gonna throw some bullshi at me I'm gonna call them out on it.

And what is with you people and Koni Yellows? I didn't ask for shocks. Can you guys read? People who want coilovers want a stiffer suspension, less roll and lower ride height - none of which a shock can supply. Do you even know how a suspension works?

Also FYI: I read the vast majority of that thread which is nothing but a bunch of idiots like yourself blindly bashing things with no actual experience. Like I said in my previous post - a bunch of regurgitation, blasting something for completely unrelated incidents.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:46 AM
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Oh yeah:

In before you start rambling on and on about how you race your car and yada yada yada. I don't give a rats as. Have you ever used Racelands? Have you ever used RSK's? Have you ever used anything besides what some other jaded douche told you to run? Didn't think so. I bet you suck at racing, too.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:53 AM
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Oh yeah:

In before you start rambling on and on about how you race your car and yada yada yada. I don't give a rats as. Have you ever used Racelands? Have you ever used RSK's? Have you ever used anything besides what some other jaded douche told you to run? Didn't think so. I bet you suck at racing, too.
LOL! Okay broooooooooooo. So you race, so your cooler than everyone. Awesome.

Someone clearly cant handle criticism. You asked us about Raceland coilovers, some like it, some dont. So now your "bashing" the people who don't like it? Clearly you made your decision on raceland, so go get a set and shut the f*ck up.
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:27 AM
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Actually I've decided to get a decent H&R coilover set even though this car will prolly be temporary. But interesting you say you don't give a shi considering you had to share your irrelevant opinion of a product you know nothing about other than hearsay.
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Actually I've decided to get a decent H&R coilover set even though this car will prolly be temporary. But interesting you say you don't give a shi considering you had to share your irrelevant opinion of a product you know nothing about other than hearsay.
I have H&R coils and couldn't be happier with them. I'd highly recommend them.


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What's the verdict on these things? $400 seems ridiculously cheap to me for a coilover setup but what do I know?
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This guy is a total ass bag. Let him buy cheap crap. If he really wanted coilovers, he'd save up his money for a good set (which start at $1500).

25 posts and he knows everything. My guess is his maxi pad is sticky side up today.
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20,000 posts (holy shi) and you're still lost in the dark. Maybe it's time you step away from the computer screen and go work on your car.
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You first. Probably do you some good to get out of mommy's basement for a bit.
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20,000 posts (holy shi) and you're still lost in the dark. Maybe it's time you step away from the computer screen and go work on your car.
You're telling Smolck to work on his car??? What an ignorant ass wipe!
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If you are looking for a good coilover in the $500 range we offer the Street Edge coilover. We offer this model coilover for the E36 and E46. There are a couple reviews floating around here and E46 fanatics
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I've spent the last 5 hours researching RaceLand, JOB, FK, RSK, DDM, you name it and it's become very apparent to me - any person stating some crap about "valuing life" knows nothing and has been regurgitating some crap from 4 years ago that was based on 2 unrelated incidents.

Incident #1) Kid reckless driving and blamed the suspension for his roll-over. Police report said otherwise. Suspension broke from the crash, not the other way around. Totally irrelevant.

Incident #2) DDM kit had unbelievably poor welds and car barely made it down the street when a weld broke free.

Incident #2 was definitely a safety issue but the way the E46 struts and shocks mount up, there's NO possible way that could be repeated on the E46.

So seriously - every single one of you guys rehashing this crap about safety -

SHUT THE F UP.
By now, I've learned to put up with and accept smolck's smartass/overly sarcastic comments & talking back. It's just how he is. I've received some of the same responses before in my own/other threads.

But seriously, this isn't necessary. Maybe a response like "No, I would not consider them because _______" is better but you aren't helping by flaming.
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If you are looking for a good coilover in the $500 range we offer the Street Edge coilover. We offer this model coilover for the E36 and E46. There are a couple reviews floating around here and E46 fanatics
Ah yes, the ones for the V6 BMW's, right?
http://thesuspensionsource.mybigcomm...eries-e46-2wd/


And for the rest of you: I couldn't care less how much you leg-hump smolck. Insinuating that running Raceland coilovers is a risk to your life is childish and in no way "Civilized" as Fast Bob attempted to put it. And then proceeding to suggest shocks? That makes no sense. Leg hump all you want but I've seen all I need to see - I sure don't need to read his blog or watch is vlog on YouTube.
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She actually likes me quite well, thanks for asking. I also don't socialize with people that answer with blanket statements and misdirection.
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And for the rest of you: I couldn't care less how much you leg-hump smolck. Insinuating that running Raceland coilovers is a risk to your life is childish and in no way "Civilized" as Fast Bob attempted to put it. And then proceeding to suggest shocks? That makes no sense. Leg hump all you want but I've seen all I need to see - I sure don't need to read his blog or watch is vlog on YouTube.
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And for the rest of you: I couldn't care less how much you leg-hump smolck. Insinuating that running Raceland coilovers is a risk to your life is childish and in no way "Civilized" as Fast Bob attempted to put it. And then proceeding to suggest shocks? That makes no sense.
It isn't about leg humping. Here are some FACTS:

1. Koni Yellows will out perform Racelands on any track any day.
2. Koni has a LIFETIME warranty
3. Koni has years and years of PROVEN performance
4. Koni yellows are run by many more people looking for a reasonable compromise between handling and daily driving comfort.
5. Koni are adjustable to YOUR taste.

And the only difference between "coilovers" and the koni is the ability to customize ride height. Given the spring rates on the racelands are quite weak for a coilover, the stock setup is a better choice. Additionally, a LOT of people who run racelands stated the back end is very bouncy which doesn't lend itself to great handling.

So even though you took offense to my post, you misread my inflection. My point was, the racelands are not the best choice by a long shot. Ever hear the saying "if something is too good to be true then it probably is"?

Do you think that a $400 set of coilovers sounds too good to be true? Do you think their might be a reason companies like Bilstein, Tein, Koni, and others charge over $1000 for their "starter" coilover kits and some are well into the $2500 range?

What you fail to realize is that I came within a hairs breath of buying some when the first hit the market. But I asked for opinions from people who know more than I do about tracking a car and handling in general. ALL of them said what I am saying to you. Did I choose to flame them and start a big fight? Nope. I listened and I am very happy I did.

Call me what you will, think of me what you will. My record speaks for itself and I need not defend it when all I was trying to do was give you an alternative choice to THINK about while you decide what you think is best for YOU. I could care less what you run on your car, merely giving you some food for thought from a different perspective.
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If you would have started with that instead of insinuating a product will put my life in danger, I would have respected your thoughts. Unfortunately you already showed me your true colors.
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It isn't about leg humping. Here are some FACTS:

1. Koni Yellows will out perform Racelands on any track any day.
2. Koni has a LIFETIME warranty
3. Koni has years and years of PROVEN performance
4. Koni yellows are run by many more people looking for a reasonable compromise between handling and daily driving comfort.
5. Koni are adjustable to YOUR taste.

And the only difference between "coilovers" and the koni is the ability to customize ride height. Given the spring rates on the racelands are quite weak for a coilover, the stock setup is a better choice. Additionally, a LOT of people who run racelands stated the back end is very bouncy which doesn't lend itself to great handling.

So even though you took offense to my post, you misread my inflection. My point was, the racelands are not the best choice by a long shot. Ever hear the saying "if something is too good to be true then it probably is"?

Do you think that a $400 set of coilovers sounds too good to be true? Do you think their might be a reason companies like Bilstein, Tein, Koni, and others charge over $1000 for their "starter" coilover kits and some are well into the $2500 range?

What you fail to realize is that I came within a hairs breath of buying some when the first hit the market. But I asked for opinions from people who know more than I do about tracking a car and handling in general. ALL of them said what I am saying to you. Did I choose to flame them and start a big fight? Nope. I listened and I am very happy I did.

Call me what you will, think of me what you will. My record speaks for itself and I need not defend it when all I was trying to do was give you an alternative choice to THINK about while you decide what you think is best for YOU. I could care less what you run on your car, merely giving you some food for thought from a different perspective.
Smolck.

No need to justify yourself to this a$$hat. Any guy that uses large type for emphasis is a ladyboy. You know it, I know it, and everybody else knows it. I suggest we all just ignore his posts, and offer no response when he has problems. He will go away, just like all the other d!cks that have come rolling through here, and then disappear. People who know nothing tend to yell louder when trying to mask their lack of knowledge.
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