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Old 08-23-2013, 06:47 PM
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Ok...mine is ordered too. Should be in before the end of the month. In the meantime I intend to start trending my coolant temps. What is a good program to use to do real-time monitoring of the system...DIS? If so, where do I get a copy? Then once I get the new one installed I will again trend the coolant temperatures and verify the delta. I may also do a pre and post dyno run to see what HP changes are experienced. I am also changing out the seals on the VANOS solinoids tomorrow morning...I don't notice any issues but I guess it couldn't hurt right?
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:18 PM
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Ok...mine is ordered too. Should be in before the end of the month. In the meantime I intend to start trending my coolant temps. What is a good program to use to do real-time monitoring of the system...DIS? If so, where do I get a copy? Then once I get the new one installed I will again trend the coolant temperatures and verify the delta. I may also do a pre and post dyno run to see what HP changes are experienced. I am also changing out the seals on the VANOS solinoids tomorrow morning...I don't notice any issues but I guess it couldn't hurt right?
The car has it's own on board sensor monitoring software, to access do this

1) Put the key in the ignition.
2) Press and hold the trip reset button. *ABS light comes on then goes out, keep holding the button in.
3) When the hidden service menu appears in the instrument binnacle, press trip button several times until option 19 'unlocking' is selected, then press and hold.
4) Tap until the number that is the cumulative number of the last 5 digits of the vehicle VIN added together (in my case 10) is shown, then press and hold to unlock menu.
5) Select desired option by pressing trip button, then access item by holding button in.
6) 'System Test' shows all dashboard symbols and graphics (quite cool!)
7)*To exit service menu, press and hold trip button from main menu.

in this case select the sensors option then you'll see your operating temp while driving.

I also updated my 1st post to tell how I installed mine
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:30 PM
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The car has it's own on board sensor monitoring software, to access do this

1) Put the key in the ignition.
2) Press and hold the trip reset button. *ABS light comes on then goes out, keep holding the button in.
3) When the hidden service menu appears in the instrument binnacle, press trip button several times until option 19 'unlocking' is selected, then press and hold.
4) Tap until the number that is the cumulative number of the last 5 digits of the vehicle VIN added together (in my case 10) is shown, then press and hold to unlock menu.
5) Select desired option by pressing trip button, then access item by holding button in.
6) 'System Test' shows all dashboard symbols and graphics (quite cool!)
7)*To exit service menu, press and hold trip button from main menu.

in this case select the sensors option then you'll see your operating temp while driving.

I also updated my 1st post to tell how I installed mine
Thanks for updating your post. I am aware of that method to monitor...I am looking into some more "robust" analysis. I have INPA, EIDABAS, etc. and am trying to learn to use it but I don't want to fark anything up. Any links to some good INPA tutorials? If not, i'll just be combing through the posts at bmwcoding i guess.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:52 PM
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Re: BMW 90C Thermostat For N62, N63, N73 Engines

You can use INPA, select e65 chassis > engine > n62 engine > status > then click on the analog and digital buttons to see different engine info etc. I'm going off the top of my head here but you'll get it

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Old 08-23-2013, 08:31 PM
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The car has it's own on board sensor monitoring software, to access do this

1) Put the key in the ignition.
2) Press and hold the trip reset button. *ABS light comes on then goes out, keep holding the button in.
3) When the hidden service menu appears in the instrument binnacle, press trip button several times until option 19 'unlocking' is selected, then press and hold.
4) Tap until the number that is the cumulative number of the last 5 digits of the vehicle VIN added together (in my case 10) is shown, then press and hold to unlock menu.
5) Select desired option by pressing trip button, then access item by holding button in.
6) 'System Test' shows all dashboard symbols and graphics (quite cool!)
7)*To exit service menu, press and hold trip button from main menu.

in this case select the sensors option then you'll see your operating temp while driving.

I also updated my 1st post to tell how I installed mine
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:37 PM
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How can I access to my 2005 645 to my hidden menu for the coolant temp
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:46 PM
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Re: BMW 90C Thermostat For N62, N63, N73 Engines

Read the post above yours.

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Old 08-24-2013, 02:11 PM
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Oh ok so that will also work for the e63 it's not only for e65
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:44 PM
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Oh ok so that will also work for the e63 it's not only for e65
Well, this is the E65 forum, so you'd probably get a better answer in the E63 forum. But it's probably worth a try.


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Old 08-24-2013, 07:44 PM
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Re: BMW 90C Thermostat For N62, N63, N73 Engines

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Well, this is the E65 forum, so you'd probably get a better answer in the E63 forum. But it's probably worth a try.


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Old 08-25-2013, 12:02 AM
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I honestly don't think this works for me nommatter what I do I can't get to the coolant temp
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Old 08-25-2013, 04:21 PM
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Re: BMW 90C Thermostat For N62, N63, N73 Engines

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Old 08-25-2013, 04:23 PM
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Re: BMW 90C Thermostat For N62, N63, N73 Engines

Took this a while ago while driving in the city was at 85-86C and it's hot as hell outside 94F Loving it.
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:35 PM
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I honestly don't think this works for me nommatter what I do I can't get to the coolant temp
Did you get the service menu?


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Old 08-26-2013, 06:50 AM
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....tick-tock, tick-tock...waiting for my part to come in. :Cry:
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Status updated today to "Shipped"...I am actually pretty anxious to do this mod. I have been trending my temperature and It has never gone above 103C and seems to open around 100C (ususally hovers around 99-100C. That is pretty wierd to me if it is really a 105C thermostat. That would mean it is never opening. It is damn hot here like 90-100F so a/c is always on too. I wonder if my current thermostat is "defective" in a good way or something.

Hard to tell for sure (carfax and dealer report doesn't show any either) but it doesn't look like any of the seals have ever been changed and there are no leaks anywhere on the motor.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:26 AM
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Status updated today to "Shipped"...I am actually pretty anxious to do this mod. I have been trending my temperature and It has never gone above 103C and seems to open around 100C (ususally hovers around 99-100C. That is pretty wierd to me if it is really a 105C thermostat. That would mean it is never opening. It is damn hot here like 90-100F so a/c is always on too. I wonder if my current thermostat is "defective" in a good way or something.

Hard to tell for sure (carfax and dealer report doesn't show any either) but it doesn't look like any of the seals have ever been changed and there are no leaks anywhere on the motor.
My factory thermostat worked the exact same way, which is crazy because that's still hot as hell


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Yes sir. It is a damn shame and quite lame I might add that such a simple part can and DOES cause major problems in these cars! I get the whole 'running hot' equals lower emissions just due to physics. But I'm not buying in! Multiple car manufactures out there run at much lower temps all the while maintaining low emissions. I'm not gonna go into a flaming rant because overall, I am a huge BMW guy. I love the product. But I will 'modify' accordingly to suit my needs.
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Yes sir. It is a damn shame and quite lame I might add that such a simple part can and DOES cause major problems in these cars! I get the whole 'running hot' equals lower emissions just due to physics. But I'm not buying in! Multiple car manufactures out there run at much lower temps all the while maintaining low emissions. I'm not gonna go into a flaming rant because overall, I am a huge BMW guy. I love the product. But I will 'modify' accordingly to suit my needs.
Do you still have warranty on your 7? The only thing holding me back from modifying my thermostat is the fact that I have an aftermarket warranty in effect until 2017. I don't know if I should do it because I'm afraid of voiding the warranty if a cooling problem should arise.


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Do you still have warranty on your 7? The only thing holding me back from modifying my thermostat is the fact that I have an aftermarket warranty in effect until 2017. I don't know if I should do it because I'm afraid of voiding the warranty if a cooling problem should arise.


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Yes sir. It is a damn shame and quite lame I might add that such a simple part can and DOES cause major problems in these cars! I get the whole 'running hot' equals lower emissions just due to physics. But I'm not buying in! Multiple car manufactures out there run at much lower temps all the while maintaining low emissions. I'm not gonna go into a flaming rant because overall, I am a huge BMW guy. I love the product. But I will 'modify' accordingly to suit my needs.
Hasn't Germany gone greener lately?I mean quite a bit more than the USA?I also have read this is not the only manufacture running these kind of temps.I still think the temps are a result of emissions.Some very successful engine designs are abandoned simply because they can't make emissions.
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