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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 09-02-2013, 03:18 PM
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Hi all, I am very interested in purchasing an M3. I don't know if I should wait for the new models to arrive or get one of the last NA V8 models. Do you all think that the last V8 will become a collectors item (or just a purist collector item) or should I wait for the newer, "faster", "better", M3? The reason why I ask this, is that there is a frozen gray E92 for sale that is comparable to non frozen models(in price , but it is not CPO), most likely due to the paint. If I wait, I will wait for the model after this current M3 to see if all the kinks are worked out. But, I would also like to possess one of the last NA V8's out there. It would not have to be a frozen color, but that would add to the rareness of the vehicle. Any thoughts would be welcomed.
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I mean I love the car but I dunno about collectors items, I highly doubt you'll see it on Mecheem in 40-50 years going for 150k+ like say a gt500. I'd get a new one as much as I love this car but thats just me
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My car should have about 5000 miles on it in 50 yrs. I'm going to retire on its sale at a car auction.

My 2001 E46 330Ci, which has 43K miles and original wiper fluid might make classic status first.
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My car should have about 5000 miles on it in 50 yrs. I'm going to retire on its sale at a car auction.

My 2001 E46 330Ci, which has 43K miles and original wiper fluid might make classic status first.
I could do that in a week
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:59 PM
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I could do that in a week
I haven't driven my car in like 3 weeks... short of driving around the parking garage like an idiot testing out my Dinan intake.
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My car should have about 5000 miles on it in 50 yrs. I'm going to retire on its sale at a car auction.

My 2001 E46 330Ci, which has 43K miles and original wiper fluid might make classic status first.
hahahahah! So I should just get it and drive it for my pleasure!
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I could do that in a week
I dont think it will become an instant classic but it could become something. I think if I buy the E9X, it will be for my own personal pleasure at a discount from the new M3/4. Or I may just wait for the M3 sedan to work out all the kinks. It is alluring, the higher torque and HP with sipping of gas!
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I mean I love the car but I dunno about collectors items, I highly doubt you'll see it on Mecheem in 40-50 years going for 150k+ like say a gt500. I'd get a new one as much as I love this car but thats just me
i just wonder if the allure of the last NA V8 will become collectable?
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hahahahah! So I should just get it and drive it for my pleasure!
Pretty much. The car will have better than average resale is my guess due to the S65 engine, and the enthusiasts who know why the E9x series M3 was special will pay for these cars. However, it will never be a true classic or collector due to the large production volume. The only M3 that has a reasonable shot at collector status is probably the GTS. Maybe the Lime Rock for the US, although I have my doubts.

But as long as the kiddies keep trashing them at the rate I'm seeing in other forums, who knows... there could be about 100 left in America in another 2-3 years. Then all bets are off... and I'm going to be very wealthy selling my undriven cars.
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Pretty much. The car will have better than average resale is my guess due to the S65 engine, and the enthusiasts who know why the E9x series M3 was special will pay for these cars. However, it will never be a true classic or collector due to the large production volume. The only M3 that has a reasonable shot at collector status is probably the GTS. Maybe the Lime Rock for the US, although I have my doubts.

But as long as the kiddies keep trashing them at the rate I'm seeing in other forums, who knows... there could be about 100 left in America in another 2-3 years. Then all bets are off... and I'm going to be very wealthy selling my undriven cars.
Only time will tell, then.
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Pretty much. The car will have better than average resale is my guess due to the S65 engine, and the enthusiasts who know why the E9x series M3 was special will pay for these cars. However, it will never be a true classic or collector due to the large production volume. The only M3 that has a reasonable shot at collector status is probably the GTS. Maybe the Lime Rock for the US, although I have my doubts.

But as long as the kiddies keep trashing them at the rate I'm seeing in other forums, who knows... there could be about 100 left in America in another 2-3 years. Then all bets are off... and I'm going to be very wealthy selling my undriven cars.
I agree that production volume has killed collectors status on the E9x series. Where I disagree is the GTS.......it won't be a true collectors item either. The only M car to see collector and classic status is the E30 M3..................Phil
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E36 M3 LTW and E46 M3 CSL? Those were both rare, enthusiast spec, and remain highly sought after... if you can even find one that's unmolested.
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I don't know about buying a car for an investment but I have to say that the NA V8 6MT combo is going to be a rare bird in the BMW staple for some time to come if ever. I don't want another drivetrain so I guess my 2011 E92 is gonna have to last awhile. So far the car has been problem free for 38K miles. even getting 19+mph on my daily drives.
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E36 M3 LTW and E46 M3 CSL? Those were both rare, enthusiast spec, and remain highly sought after... if you can even find one that's unmolested.
Finding one of these is difficult at best. Non US spec (special) cars will always be in high demand. But out of country maybe not so much. We always want what we can't have ..................Phil
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I was in your shoes not long ago. After several years wandering in the wilderness (I was driving an Infiniti) I decided I'd return to the BMW fold. I set my sights on the forthcoming M4. The more I thought about it, however, the more I realized I didn't want to wait another 2 years. I found, and bought, a nice CPO E92.

You see, I previously owned an E39 M5 and an E46 M3. I drove them, I loved them, and when it was time for something else, I easily sold them. Certain cars simply don't depreciate very much if you take good care of them. I believe the E92 is another of those cars.

As long as you don't overpay on the sweet E92 you've got your eye on, you can love it for 2-3 years, then sell or trade for a hot, new M4 when you're ready.

I love my new (to me) M3. I'm in no hurry now for the M4. In fact, I might just wait until year two, after the bugs are worked out, and just continue to enjoy the wail of the best, last, and only V8 to ever grace the engine bay of BMW's best car.

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I bought a E92 M3 for the NA V-8 motor. I got rid of a 2011 Dinan Stage 3 335is with 398 HP and 429 ft lbs. torque
I think you mean 338hp and 364

I agree it's a different beast with the m3 but bpm tune Dinan intake and pulley kit in d5/s6 it really does make a crazy difference.
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I was in your shoes not long ago. After several years wandering in the wilderness (I was driving an Infiniti) I decided I'd return to the BMW fold. I set my sights on the forthcoming M4. The more I thought about it, however, the more I realized I didn't want to wait another 2 years. I found, and bought, a nice CPO E92.

You see, I previously owned an E39 M5 and an E46 M3. I drove them, I loved them, and when it was time for something else, I easily sold them. Certain cars simply don't depreciate very much if you take good care of them. I believe the E92 is another of those cars.

As long as you don't overpay on the sweet E92 you've got your eye on, you can love it for 2-3 years, then sell or trade for a hot, new M4 when you're ready.

I love my new (to me) M3. I'm in no hurry now for the M4. In fact, I might just wait until year two, after the bugs are worked out, and just continue to enjoy the wail of the best, last, and only V8 to ever grace the engine bay of BMW's best car.

Carpe diem!
that is pretty sound advice!
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I think you mean 338hp and 364
This is what Dinan claims at the flywheel.

Stage 3 Performance Engine Software safely increases turbo-boost pressure and is optimized to take full advantage of the High Performance Intercooler. The boost is tapered at the higher levels to keep from over heating and damaging the turbos. With a peak horsepower of 398 at 5700 rpm and the peak torque of 429 lb-ft at 4300 rpm...

http://www.dinancars.com/products/3-...t-Upgrade.aspx
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This is what Dinan claims at the flywheel.

Stage 3 Performance Engine Software safely increases turbo-boost pressure and is optimized to take full advantage of the High Performance Intercooler. The boost is tapered at the higher levels to keep from over heating and damaging the turbos. With a peak horsepower of 398 at 5700 rpm and the peak torque of 429 lb-ft at 4300 rpm...

http://www.dinancars.com/products/3-...t-Upgrade.aspx
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I agree it's a different beast with the m3 but bpm tune Dinan intake and pulley kit in d5/s6 it really does make a crazy difference.
Wait till you got Stage II. That's when things get REALLY serious.
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