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Old 09-07-2013, 02:42 AM
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2006 X3 ALL airbags deployed in minor accident

Please help!

I got into a minor accident where I rear ended a F150 at very low velocity (10mph at max). In fact, the F150 left without a scratch on his rear bumper.
however, ALL airbags in my car deployed (driver and passenger front and side )...I basically got punched and was sent to hospital for check up. lucky there are no internal bleeding just bruises from side and front airbags and stiff neck and arm and back so far.

I want to know if I can still talk to BMW about this because at such low velocity there's no way all airbags are deployed. Even the paramedics and firefighters are staring at my car wondering how this can happen because there's only a small dent on my license plate. My car is a 2006 X3 3.0 sport.

Any advice? I'm still hoping that replacing all airbags won't total my car...i love my ride.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:53 AM
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Minimum $1k per bag. BMW wont do a thing nor should they they - you hit a car and the bags deployed. You will go through years of litigation to get BMW to read the data on the g-sensors to prove there was something wrong with the car.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:53 AM
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2006 X3 ALL airbags deployed in minor accident

Lol. Anytime ANYONE gets into a wreck:

" I was only going about ten miles an hour."


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Old 09-07-2013, 07:04 AM
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Post a pic of the external damage to your car, I am interested to see.

Side impact still should not have gone off if there were no lateral forces present, but as the guy above said, BMW will likely resist looking at the car, and paying for anything, even if it was a 'malfunction'.

Are there any TSBs out for airbag issues? Something to check.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:20 AM
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I would rather they inflate in a minor accident than not inflate in a serious one. I say Pollyanna it and move on.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:52 AM
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:08 AM
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Not defending myself here. I rear ended a car and its my fault. I know BMW is safe and that's why this is my second car.
I didn't even think about the air bag problem until I have the paramedics and the firefighters saying that this is the first time they seen air bags (driver and passengers front and side) come out with such a minor hit.

I know I'm gonna bite the bullet and move on, but if that's how much it takes for a x3 to get all airbags deployed, I don't think I'll consider the same car in the case of a total lost.
That's why I ask.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:13 PM
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why did the airbag go off on your passenger side? Was someone sitting in it? I'm assuming from your story it was just you. That shouldn't have happened.

BTW, your story seems totally legit from those pics.

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Old 09-07-2013, 01:18 PM
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That's my question. I'm the only person in the car at time of accident..but all airbags are popped. Is it because of a faulty sensor or it's just bad luck that I hit a sweet spot.
I'm just not sure why. I was told my car maybe a total lost.
I never had an accident with this car and with this small accident the car is done.
I understand safety is important but I also don't want to kill a bimmer every time I get into an accident even minor like this.
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:42 PM
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From what I understand the only reason it's supposed to fire all airbags in such a minor accident is if it senses impending rollover.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:59 PM
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I understand safety is important but I also don't want to kill a bimmer every time I get into an accident even minor like this.
Or a child.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:18 PM
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Based on the information here, it sounds like the airbag system over-reacted for such a minor crash. I think the place to start may be to talk to your insurance agent, since they will be paying the bill.

With all of the airbags and related components deployed, I am guessing your X3 will be declared a total loss. Replacement will be many thousands of dollars.

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Old 09-07-2013, 07:04 PM
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That's my question. I'm the only person in the car at time of accident..but all airbags are popped. Is it because of a faulty sensor or it's just bad luck that I hit a sweet spot.
Yes, the passenger seat occupancy sensor should have prevented at least that air bag from deploying.

That's the whole point of that sensor - so that a child under the weight threshold doesn't get more injured by the bag than they would by the other forces.

But rather than that sensor alone not doing what it should have, I would say that a bigger error in the bag deployment processing occurred.

I would say it is definitely worthwhile to get a regional manager of BMW Canada involved.
Not sure bluskye is correct.
Can't see why they would not at least see if your vehicle service records show any airbag issues in the past, and investigate how this would happen.

Not good for the brand image if an otherwise perfectly good '06 model has to be written off just because airbags are so expensive to replace, especially when they shouldn't have fired.

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Old 09-07-2013, 08:36 PM
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2006 X3 ALL airbags deployed in minor accident

Absolutely report it to BMW. They can't recognize a problem if they don't know about it. You may possibly get nowhere financially with them, but you will certainly get nowhere if you don't talk to them.

Perhaps even the NTSB. Yours may be the case that triggers a safety bulletin (passenger airbag deploys even when a child is in the passenger seat - certainly a safety issue they would look at)


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Old 09-08-2013, 12:01 AM
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Thanks everybody for the advice!

I'll keep everybody updated and my insurance company told me that they will let me know in 3 days how much it will cost.
I tried to recall if I put anything on my passenger side but there's only my purse which is less than 3lbs for sure.

I know I probably won't go anywhere with BMW but at least there is a report on file and it may help other fellow X3 owners.
Should I talk to the dealership or just go straight to BMW Canada office about this?
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:20 AM
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Thanks everybody for the advice!

I'll keep everybody updated and my insurance company told me that they will let me know in 3 days how much it will cost.
I tried to recall if I put anything on my passenger side but there's only my purse which is less than 3lbs for sure.

I know I probably won't go anywhere with BMW but at least there is a report on file and it may help other fellow X3 owners.
Should I talk to the dealership or just go straight to BMW Canada office about this?
Two questions:

1. Was the passenger seat pad sensor every replaced?
2. Was the air bag light on the instrumentation cluster illuminated before the accident?
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:04 AM
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Should I talk to the dealership or just go straight to BMW Canada office about this?
Best to have your dealer in the loop if possible and give them a chance to involve the BMW Canada Regional Manager.

If it doesn't look as though your dealer is going to bat for you, then you would have to contact the right person from BMW Canada yourself.

Knowing who that right person is may be difficult.
You don't want to be talking to someone at head office who will give you the wrong answers simply because they don't know.

Not pre-judging anything, but I think a good resolution would be for BMW Canada to authorize the dealer to replace the airbags at a cost that will allow the insurance company to avoid a write off.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:56 AM
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Two questions:

1. Was the passenger seat pad sensor every replaced?
2. Was the air bag light on the instrumentation cluster illuminated before the accident?
No to both questions thats why i was wondering if there is a faulty sensor in place. I did Inspection 2 lasr September and all sensors are working.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:37 PM
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Wow, minor fender bender, and every bag deploys! Pics say a lot, the car looks very much intact.

Were you firmly on the brakes or was it more of a 'rolling' accident?

Def. keep us updated.
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:04 PM
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damn, at one point my dad hit garage harder in his 2008 sentra and nothing but damaged bumper. definitely make sure that BMW knows about this, send the pictures in an official email.
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CRASHES WHERE THE AIR BAG SHOULD NOT DEPLOY
Your air bags should not deploy in those accidents where they will not prevent your injuries. After all, air bags can deploy at speeds of more than 200 mph, and you should not be exposed to those kinds of forces if it won't help you. Thus, your frontal air bags should not deploy in side impacts, rear impacts and rollovers where there is no significant deceleration from front to back. Other examples of crashes where your frontal air bags should not generally deploy include:
Minor frontal crashes
Most impacts to the undercarriage of the vehicle, such as when crossing a railroad, unless they would result in serious personal injury
Impacts with animals such as deer or dogs
Impacts with street curbs or parking blocks
Driving on rough roads, including those with large potholes, gravel or bumps
Of course, your air bags should never deploy when your vehicle is not in an accident. Although this seems obvious, there are actually many cases where this has occurred, often due to poor design of the air bag system software, or due to electrical issues with the air bag system.
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:52 AM
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Oh wow, bummer man!

This should ve never happened!

Few days ago, I changed pads n disks on my accord and ofcourse THAT DAY was the day a guy pulled a cold turkey stop on me and I bumped him at about 5mph. No damages at all, no airbags popping out either.

BMW Canada should take action on this, but good luck, they aren't the nicest ppl to deal with.

Where to start: try asking the Public Relations department - Tell him that the issue is being discussed here in this forum and people are worried.
Call Rob Dexter, he is the PR - Specialist - Product and Technology, +1 905-428-5447 (BMW Canada, Ontario location)
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:35 PM
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At 35-40 MPH all of mine deployed, I was the only one in the car. It was like falling into pillows not violent or anything. Not one bruise or any soreness at all.

Odd, it looks as if there is not any damage to the front of your X3. Did it pop the battery cord, kill power, turn on the hazards and call BMW?

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Old 09-11-2013, 04:40 PM
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WOW!!!! i thought you were talking shiit till i saw those pics...

you got a law suit dude..

The cut is 15mph based on G force senors.. Speedo input.. and crunch sensors in the bumper...
you need to lawyer up.. and shell some time out for that...

your neck hurts?
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:22 PM
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damn, at one point my dad hit garage harder in his 2008 sentra and nothing but damaged bumper. definitely make sure that BMW knows about this, send the pictures in an official email.
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http://www.theairbagblog.com/how-air...at-went-wrong/
It COULD be possible you were going over 8mph, especially if car above you was still moving foward when you hit him. Then according to the graph the drivers side should have only fired. Good luck but you are probably facing an uphill battle!
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:34 PM
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Wow, Last month and was rear ended and the impact pushed my X3 into the car in front....over $3K worth of damage to the front and rear and no air bag deployment....i am confused with what happened to you...
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