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Old 09-12-2013, 08:04 AM
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I'll be looking into a new set of tires soon and was wondering if anyone has tried and will comment on the latest available generation Bridgestone RFTs? [As we all know]The first gen that came with the car were horrible, I assume some improvements have come! Also under consideration are the Perelli P Zeros, so any comments here would also be appreciated.

If no real improvements have come our way, I will default to non RFs like the Michelin PSS and pick up the ancillary equip needed to compensate for the lack of a spare.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:39 AM
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I recently picked up new 1 series, it came with Dunlop summer RF tires, which were terrible. Switched to regular tires and comfort is much improved.

I doubt Run Flat tires will ever catch up to regular tires when it comes to comfort.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:22 AM
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This must be the 100th thread dealing with RFTs. They have improved a lot since they first came out, but most people still don't like them. Ride is usually described as worse, they are more expensive, and most shops don't carry them, so you can either get stuck in nowhereland, or end up buying a GFT to get you where you need to go. I dumped my Bridgestone EL42s after 8K miles and switched to Michelin Pilots and have not looked back. I put a can of flat fix in my trunk and hope that works if needed. No good answer to this, but many with RFTs have complained that these tires did not help them when out in the boondocks.
One thing to note is that MOST manufacturers have NOT followed BMW in going to RFTs and those that have (Corvette, Cadillac ATS) have done so mostly to save weight. I would love to see BMW come back with a space saver spare and dump the RFTs.
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I'll be looking into a new set of tires soon and was wondering if anyone has tried and will comment on the latest available generation Bridgestone RFTs? [As we all know]The first gen that came with the car were horrible, I assume some improvements have come! Also under consideration are the Perelli P Zeros, so any comments here would also be appreciated.

If no real improvements have come our way, I will default to non RFs like the Michelin PSS and pick up the ancillary equip needed to compensate for the lack of a spare.
Please use the Search function. This subject has been well-covered.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:33 AM
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Please use the Search function. This subject has been well-covered.
I'm pretty sure time doesn't stand still on tire technology, thus my query for / from actual field users and or brand specific experiences.

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The PSSs are dying. I went to order them and they discontinued the 255 size. :O


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Old 09-12-2013, 10:19 AM
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255/19 are still listed on TR, but thanks for the heads up - if they are being discontinued(or updated/replaced) maybe remaining stock will be discounted.
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This must be the 100th thread dealing with RFTs. They have improved a lot since they first came out, but most people still don't like them. Ride is usually described as worse, they are more expensive, and most shops don't carry them, so you can either get stuck in nowhereland, or end up buying a GFT to get you where you need to go. I dumped my Bridgestone EL42s after 8K miles and switched to Michelin Pilots and have not looked back. I put a can of flat fix in my trunk and hope that works if needed. No good answer to this, but many with RFTs have complained that these tires did not help them when out in the boondocks.
One thing to note is that MOST manufacturers have NOT followed BMW in going to RFTs and those that have (Corvette, Cadillac ATS) have done so mostly to save weight. I would love to see BMW come back with a space saver spare and dump the RFTs.
This is the 300th thread.

My RS4 didn't have RFTs, nor did it have a spare tire. It came with a repair kit. Basically a can of goo and a compressor with an Audi logo on it.

Like many on here, I ditched the RFTs in favor of Michelin PSS and wow, what a difference. The ride is still a bit choppy over sharp bumps in the city, but MUCH better than the RFTs. No matter how much they work to improve RFTs, they will always be stiffer and harsher than a regular tire.
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Just read a post over on zpost that the 3rd gen Bridgestones are much improved and the poster was pleasantly surprised. They were installed on a Z4.

If you go with GFT, let me provide a personal experience about Contis under the FWIW category. I have the Contis DW on the 335 and like them. However, let me warn you that my experience has been that they are hard to get. It took a week to get them originally. I have had to replace two of them because of non-repairable punctures and both times it took a week to get the replacements. Discount Tire told me that getting Contis has always been a problem as they are in short supply. Despite liking them, I probably will not get them again because of the supply issue.
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This is the 300th thread.

My RS4 didn't have RFTs, nor did it have a spare tire. It came with a repair kit. Basically a can of goo and a compressor with an Audi logo on it.

Like many on here, I ditched the RFTs in favor of Michelin PSS and wow, what a difference. The ride is still a bit choppy over sharp bumps in the city, but MUCH better than the RFTs. No matter how much they work to improve RFTs, they will always be stiffer and harsher than a regular tire.
BMW states(sin M productions), their suspension is a synergistic compliment to run flats, so I assume Audi the same, so when you went to conventional tires, you perceived no neg effects in handling?

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Just read a post over on zpost that the 3rd gen Bridgestones are much improved and the poster was pleasantly surprised. They were installed on a Z4.

If you go with GFT, let me provide a personal experience about Contis under the FWIW category. I have the Contis DW on the 335 and like them. However, let me warn you that my experience has been that they are hard to get. It took a week to get them originally. I have had to replace two of them because of non-repairable punctures and both times it took a week to get the replacements. Discount Tire told me that getting Contis has always been a problem as they are in short supply. Despite liking them, I probably will not get them again because of the supply issue.
I appreciate the information and your perspective on the topic, well worth consideration.

So you'll be going back to regular tires? Or at least till availability is a non issue?
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I'll be looking into a new set of tires soon and was wondering if anyone has tried and will comment on the latest available generation Bridgestone RFTs? ... Also under consideration are the Perelli P Zeros, so any comments here would also be appreciated.
Any particular reason you are not considering the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 ZP? It a superior choice to both of those IMO. My car was so equipped from the factory and I have no complaints in street, autocross or track use.
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I did the A/S version of the all seasons for my 335i and it did ok in light snow but overall it was slightly above the stock RFT's on the car and not what I came to love when I'd had them on other cars. Go big and get the Super Sports.
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Any particular reason you are not considering the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 ZP? It a superior choice to both of those IMO. My car was so equipped from the factory and I have no complaints in street, autocross or track use.
The PS2 ZP doesn't come up as available in my size on Tire Rack but I will check again and also look into its customer reviews. Thank you.
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I did the A/S version of the all seasons for my 335i and it did ok in light snow but overall it was slightly above the stock RFT's on the car and not what I came to love when I'd had them on other cars. Go big and get the Super Sports.


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There is an article in the recent Roundel, with Satch purporting them the best RFT generation yet, I believe they are Goodyear; maybe give it a read and throw them into your mix.
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There is an article in the recent Roundel, with Satch purporting them the best RFT generation yet, I believe they are Goodyear; maybe give it a read and throw them into your mix.
That's right, I remember now that you mention it. Thanks.

Addendum; just checked The Goodyear website, RFts are not yet offered in my size, Front tire size: 225/35R19
Rear tire size: 255/30R19, - the story of my life with these 19s.
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The PS2 ZP doesn't come up as available in my size on Tire Rack but I will check again and also look into its customer reviews. Thank you.
I have PS2 ZP on my 335d / sport package (just bought a new front set as a matter of fact). IMO they're better than the Bridgestones that came originally (on my 2010 335d). I'm probably going to change over to Bridgestone RE960 a/s or Michelin PA3 when I get a chance.
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I appreciate the information and your perspective on the topic, well worth consideration.

So you'll be going back to regular tires? Or at least till availability is a non issue?
I will probably investigate RFTs when it comes time to replace and see if technology has progressed enough. But probably will just go with another GFT other than Contis. I bought a space saver doughnut already.

Although I probably will keep RFTs on the Z4.
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I purchased a set of Bridgestone RE960 RFT's (16 inch) a year ago and have been happy with them. They were about $600 out the door at Costco, are definitely quieter than the Turanzas that came as original equipment, and handle at least as well. TireRack also sells them.
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I purchased a set of Bridgestone RE960 RFT's (16 inch) a year ago and have been happy with them. They were about $600 out the door at Costco, are definitely quieter than the Turanzas that came as original equipment, and handle at least as well. TireRack also sells them.
16" RFT : no issue

Try 18 / 19" RFT and feel the bumps and thumps
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Any particular reason you are not considering the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 ZP? It a superior choice to both of those IMO. My car was so equipped from the factory and I have no complaints in street, autocross or track use.
I took the Bridgestone Re050 off after my first summer and put on the PS2 ZP. Great tire. On my 2011 I can't say I have much to complain about with ride quality. If I hit a big enough hole it does hit hard but that is rather rare.
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So, based on the comments posted it sounds like RFTs are not quite there yet(atleast in my size requirements), which is sad to hear as I do believe the practical application of RF technology offers many benefits for end users, if it can be done correctly. Thanks to all that offered their comments.
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