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Old 09-12-2013, 08:50 PM
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I'm going to get a 335iS somewhere after December so I want to know a few things on 2011-2013 335iS

Does 335iS have any HPFP or cooling problem ? (saw on YouTube BMW 335i vs G37)

Does every 335iS comes with Comfort Access ?

Is the DCT good ? Instant gearshift ?

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Random HPFP but very very few in number, the issue was pretty much over in 2010 as a major problem......live in Carolina & have not had any heating problems.

CA is not standard. IIRC it was part of a package or stand alone option. I have it.

DTC is very fast, human can't come close with a 6MT.

One of the other JB4/BMS testers has run 11.7/119mph with the DCT on stock RFT in Florida, which is very good for a lightly modified car that can be duplicated for about $1200.



My car ran 12.5/114mph on the old non-ISO version of the JB4 with no other mods, has not be run yet on the new ISO package but its measurably quicker on my test road in Mexico
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DCT is fast and even faster (think machine gun shooting at full auto, that's how fast it is) when in sport mode. It is however not as smooth as slushbox during regular everyday-type driving. I drive 135i with DCT, which should be comparable to 335is. Test drive 335is to see how it is. Performance exhaust is pretty loud, especially during cold start, hopefully your neighbors can tolerate it.
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DCT might be faster but I think most will agree MT is still much more fun. But a pain in the arse in local traffic.
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DCT is fast and even faster (think machine gun shooting at full auto, that's how fast it is) when in sport mode. It is however not as smooth as slushbox during regular everyday-type driving. I drive 135i with DCT, which should be comparable to 335is. Test drive 335is to see how it is. Performance exhaust is pretty loud, especially during cold start, hopefully your neighbors can tolerate it.
Just a few things.

Its the same DCT but I have not noticed any really harsh shifts unless its in sport mode/sport button or M/sport button. D seems like a pretty normal trans pattern. My normal DD driving is sport mode/no sport button T/C off. Car is programed to switch the T/C off on start-up.

I like this mode because it keeps the car 1 to 2 gears lower than it would be in D but is not as sharp as sport mode/sport button would be. I have my kick down switch blocked out & the lower gears give me nice quickness without having to really get into the throttle.

The 335IS is not as loud as the 135IS. Different muffler with more packing in it. The 335IS muffler system sits between the standard BMW exhaust & the PE.
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We debate this a lot but a number of us who could have purchased either chose the IS over the M3 as a DD with some 1/4 track time in the plan. The M3 would be a better choice for a track day car but very few people actually use it on a road course.

$1200 into a 335is would cost over $10K in an M3 to duplicate. The new turbo M4 will square the circle & be a better all round choice.
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Just a few things.

Its the same DCT but I have not noticed any really harsh shifts unless its in sport mode/sport button or M/sport button. D seems like a pretty normal trans pattern. My normal DD driving is sport mode/no sport button T/C off. Car is programed to switch the T/C off on start-up.

I like this mode because it keeps the car 1 to 2 gears lower than it would be in D but is not as sharp as sport mode/sport button would be. I have my kick down switch blocked out & the lower gears give me nice quickness without having to really get into the throttle.

The 335IS is not as loud as the 135IS. Different muffler with more packing in it. The 335IS muffler system sits between the standard BMW exhaust & the PE.
I run the m3 in sport, sport plus, mdm and d5/s6 crazy hard shifts going WOT @120 in 3rd/4th gear :o
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I run the m3 in sport, sport plus, mdm and d5/s6 crazy hard shifts going WOT @120 in 3rd/4th gear :o
But its takes you so loooong to get to 120 without $12K worth of ESS But hey the M3's are good look'N
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DCT might be faster but I think most will agree MT is still much more fun. But a pain in the arse in local traffic.
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DTC is very fast, human can't come close with a 6MT.[/QUOTE]

+1 for the DCT. Super fast shifts. I almost bought a manual 335is but the traffic here in NY is redonculous!

Hey Bear I've been debating back and forth on the JB4. Is it worth the hassle? Install, removal for warranty issues. Etc etc? 335is is fast as is but lately I've been wanting more power.

I could have also bought an E90 M3 but felt the is was a better daily driver also. I just got back from doing an ED on an F30 for my wife and we rocked an E90 M3 on demand for an afternoon. I must say the 335is feels just as fast if not faster then the M3 at least on autobahn driving but I'm sure around a track the M3 takes it. For the record we hit 270 kilometers per hour which translates to almost 170 mph. Loved it!!!!!



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Hey Bear I've been debating back and forth on the JB4. Is it worth the hassle? Install, removal for warranty issues. Etc etc? 335is is fast as is but lately I've been wanting more power.
To me its more than worth it. I am dynoing at 402whp with just the JB4/FMIC. Stock the car without the FMIC dynode at 319whp. A normal 335i will dyno in the 265/270whp range. The M3 we tease about typically dynos at 355/360whp. What makes the M3 dyno interesting is its within 4whp of the standard 15% in claimed HP when going from a engine dyno to a chassis dyno. Performance wise at 375whp the torque available in the turbo engine was generally the difference in a heads up go against the V8 M3's I ran. The last version I6 M3 is just not competitive against either the 335is or current M3 V8.

I do run a 50/50 93/100 octane mix. On straight 93 its good for 375whp.

First time through its a slow process took me just shy of an hour hood open to hood closed, but after that its about 1/2 hour without rushing. Car is 2 years old & only had it out twice for state emissions inspection. Last time left it in & the car passed. You don't need to pull it for every service just switch to Map 0, a button push on the steering wheel.

For what its worth I had the radiator hose replaced even though they had to work around my ETS FMIC with no issues raised.
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IMHO (do I really have one of those ) The 335IS is more like the old 2+2 GT cars & the 7 DCT suits it well. I do have a 6MT in the 135IS that replaced a 330Ci ZHP 6MT which again I believe suits the cars personality.
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To me its more than worth it. I am dynoing at 402whp with just the JB4/FMIC. Stock the car without the FMIC dynode at 319whp. A normal 335i will dyno in the 265/270whp range. The M3 we tease about typically dynos at 355/360whp. What makes the M3 dyno interesting is its within 4whp of the standard 15% in claimed HP when going from a engine dyno to a chassis dyno. Performance wise at 375whp the torque available in the turbo engine was generally the difference in a heads up go against the V8 M3's I ran. The last version I6 M3 is just not competitive against either the 335is or current M3 V8.

I do run a 50/50 93/100 octane mix. On straight 93 its good for 375whp.

First time through its a slow process took me just shy of an hour hood open to hood closed, but after that its about 1/2 hour without rushing. Car is 2 years old & only had it out twice for state emissions inspection. Last time left it in & the car passed. You don't need to pull it for every service just switch to Map 0, a button push on the steering wheel.

For what its worth I had the radiator hose replaced even though they had to work around my ETS FMIC with no issues raised.
I should have baselined my m3 pre intake,pulley kit, and BPM tune, I feel like I'd be shocked if I picked up even 20whp

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To me its more than worth it. I am dynoing at 402whp with just the JB4/FMIC. Stock the car without the FMIC dynode at 319whp. A normal 335i will dyno in the 265/270whp range. The M3 we tease about typically dynos at 355/360whp. What makes the M3 dyno interesting is its within 4whp of the standard 15% in claimed HP when going from a engine dyno to a chassis dyno. Performance wise at 375whp the torque available in the turbo engine was generally the difference in a heads up go against the V8 M3's I ran. The last version I6 M3 is just not competitive against either the 335is or current M3 V8.

I do run a 50/50 93/100 octane mix. On straight 93 its good for 375whp.

First time through its a slow process took me just shy of an hour hood open to hood closed, but after that its about 1/2 hour without rushing. Car is 2 years old & only had it out twice for state emissions inspection. Last time left it in & the car passed. You don't need to pull it for every service just switch to Map 0, a button push on the steering wheel.

For what its worth I had the radiator hose replaced even though they had to work around my ETS FMIC with no issues raised.
Thanks. I've been debating between the ease of use with the Cobb and the JB4. Ill going to go with the JB4.



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COBB is easier than the JB4 to install/remove, but I don't believe its has the performance of the JB4 yet. All the top stock, RB & Vargas turbo records are held by BMS equipped cars.

That being said with a $179 BT cable & a laptop you can now flash the 335 without the $800 COBB unit. URL below. You need to be a bit more tech savvy than with the COBB device but its proving to be very popular. It can do a COBB style flash or a BMS back end flash. The 11.7/119mph car I mentioned above has the JB4/BMS flash. I should be running a 335is BMS backend test flash with the BT system in the next week or so.

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1000-2500 for 100whp+ for the n54 depending if you bargain shop/go used or even new.
Its the M3 tax. Just a heads-up. Should be a good number of M3 at the airport races in early Oct. A large number of BMW's have signed up. Hope that Sticky's high end M3 build gets there.

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Its the M3 tax. Just a heads-up. Should be a good number of M3 at the airport races in early Oct. A large number of BMW's have signed up. Hope that Sticky's high end M3 build gets there.

http://shift-s3ctor.com/next-airstri...r-5th-6th-2013
Yeah after dropping about 10k miles on the car, and as much as I love it I'm looking to try something else, the cars amazing but the modding potential of the 335i made that car feel more like mine lol poor car

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COBB is easier than the JB4 to install/remove, but I don't believe its has the performance of the JB4 yet. All the top stock, RB & Vargas turbo records are held by BMS equipped cars.

That being said with a $179 BT cable & a laptop you can now flash the 335 without the $800 COBB unit. URL below. You need to be a bit more tech savvy than with the COBB device but its proving to be very popular. It can do a COBB style flash or a BMS back end flash. The 11.7/119mph car I mentioned above has the JB4/BMS flash. I should be running a 335is BMS backend test flash with the BT system in the next week or so.

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Those of you who own you cars and planning on keeping it long term then it would become obligatory for you know how the BMS tuning option works on your car vs Cobb
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