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Old 09-19-2013, 06:14 PM
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What oil and filter?

I just bought my 335 I and the service indicator says I need a change my oil. What oil and filter should I use?

I have used Royal purple oil in all of my cars, so can I use royal purple or is something else recommended?

As far as oil filters should I go to BMW for this? Thanks in advance!


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See link below. Use the BMW recommended oils + a BMW or another good quality filter (Mann, K&N, Bosch, Pureone, etc.)

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ngineOils.aspx


Check the DIY area. There is a good write up on changing the oil. If your car has the plug on the bottom, it works best if you can lift the 4 wheels. I use rhino ramps for the front wheels and a low profile jack in the back (make sure you use jack stands for security).
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Mahle and or Mann filters are good which are typically what BMW rebrands. Any oil that meeting the long life oil requirement if you choose to use long life oil changes work well. Typically ACEA-3A oil meet BMW LL-04.
It would be good to know how you plan to operate your BMW meaning do you plan to let the computer tell you when to change oil meaning condition based survice (CBS) or at some prescribed mileage interval. That really would dictate to me anyway which oil I would use.
Because this is a 335 with DI it has a tendency to coat the intake valves with carbon. I have been running PAO class 4 oil when I can verify that is what most of it is for one reason, higher flash point which is reported to reduce or almost eliminate the deposits. This isn't my observation but one posted by a forum member hitting 200K on his 335 which is modded by the way...
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I just bought my 335 I and the service indicator says I need a change my oil. What oil and filter should I use?

I have used Royal purple oil in all of my cars, so can I use royal purple or is something else recommended?

As far as oil filters should I go to BMW for this?

Does you owners manual give specs?
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:27 PM
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Mahle and or Mann filters are good which are typically what BMW rebrands. Any oil that meeting the long life oil requirement if you choose to use long life oil changes work well. Typically ACEA-3A oil meet BMW LL-04.
It would be good to know how you plan to operate your BMW meaning do you plan to let the computer tell you when to change oil meaning condition based survice (CBS) or at some prescribed mileage interval. That really would dictate to me anyway which oil I would use.
Because this is a 335 with DI it has a tendency to coat the intake valves with carbon. I have been running PAO class 4 oil when I can verify that is what most of it is for one reason, higher flash point which is reported to reduce or almost eliminate the deposits. This isn't my observation but one posted by a forum member hitting 200K on his 335 which is modded by the way...
What oil is that? How do I find it. I don't understand why carbon builds so fast on this engine.


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I don't understand why carbon builds so fast on this engine.
It is because the engine is direct injection, so there is no injected fuel upstream of the inlet valves to wash them free of carbon, as there would be on an indirectly injected engine...
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What oil is that? How do I find it. I don't understand why carbon builds so fast on this engine.

Well, any oil conforming to BMW spec is good. Like it says in your manual.

OTOH there is an online guide to BMW oil specs and intake valve carbon buildup - use that.

Also, I have heard of these issues - pretty sure someone posted to this forum on both questions some time back. That said, how would you find that in the many thousands of posts?

The good news is: Above, if you click on SEARCH, this site allows you to easily look for anything you want. Try that.

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Mobil 1 0W40, European Car Formula is the correct oil for all BMWs, MB, Audi, & VW. Fortunately, it now can be purchased in 5 quart jugs at Wal*Mart.

The correct filter is a Mann, and you'll find them at Amazon. The Amazon site has an app that checks your selection is correct for you car/engine.

Another thing you can get from Amazon is the correct filter cap wrench to remove the filter from it housing.
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OE BMW oil and filters are competitively priced and take the guesswork out of it.

Tischer sells discounted oil change kits already preassembled.

http://www.getbmwparts.com/partlocat...egoryID=164147
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OE BMW oil and filters are competitively priced and take the guesswork out of it.

Tischer sells discounted oil change kits already preassembled.

http://www.getbmwparts.com/partlocat...egoryID=164147
The Tischer kit is $76. My dealer charges $80 for an oil change. I don't have to deal with lifting the car, making an oily mess in my driveway, disposing of used oil, etc. I typically maintain the car myself, but for me, dealer oil changes are a bargain!
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mobil 1 0w40, european car formula is the correct oil for all bmws, mb, audi, & vw. Fortunately, it now can be purchased in 5 quart jugs at wal*mart.

The correct filter is a mann, and you'll find them at amazon. The amazon site has an app that checks your selection is correct for you car/engine.

Another thing you can get from amazon is the correct filter cap wrench to remove the filter from it housing.
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The Tischer kit is $76. My dealer charges $80 for an oil change. I don't have to deal with lifting the car, making an oily mess in my driveway, disposing of used oil, etc. I typically maintain the car myself, but for me, dealer oil changes are a bargain!
That's a good deal and a no brainer!

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You can buy oil from the dealer at a good price or check to see if your local Autozone has German Castrol which is what is rebranded as BMW oil. Personally I like the Mann filters & also get them from Amazon. Never thought Royal Purple was much more that a slick, no pun intended, advertising campaign. If AZ does not have German Castrol I use Mobile 1.
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What oil and filter?

I am not sure if the previous owner did it or not so I am going to change the spark plugs also.

I was thinking oem from the dealer but I read some people using ngk's.

Will a regular socket work? I have a standard spark plug socket and a special ford 9/16 socket as well.

I am going to buy my oil filter and drain bolt and washers at the dealer and use either Mobil 1 or the German castrol.

How do i know if its the right castrol? I am going to use either royal purple or redline in the tranny is this ok?


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I have this spark plug socket, and it works great!
http://www.burgertuning.com/N54_BMW_...t_adapter.html
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How do i know if its the right castrol? I am going to use either royal purple or redline in the tranny is this ok?
Look for a "BMW LL-01" rating on the oil bottle.

Regarding ATF, my indy BMW specialist strongly recommends Redline. Remember that free advice on the internet is worth everything you pay for it.
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Look for a "BMW LL-01" rating on the oil bottle.

Regarding ATF, my indy BMW specialist strongly recommends Redline. Remember that free advice on the internet is worth everything you pay for it.
So anything with that rating can be used? What weight? 5w30?


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So anything with that rating can be used? What weight? 5w30?
The BMW-branded oil is 5W-30. That's what I use and I get mine here (+/- $75 delivered, with oil, filter, and gasket): http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-335...vice/ES250700/

I believe the Mobil 1 European is 0W-40, and I believe that is acceptable as well. In various internet posts, I've seen the following weights listed as acceptable to BMW: 0w30, 0w40, 5w30, 5w40. Again, the free internet advice caveat applies.


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  • Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30 (look for the "European Formula" stamp on the bottle)
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  • Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
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BMW Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market:
  • Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30 (look for the "European Formula" stamp on the bottle)
  • Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40
  • Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
  • Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30
Except that's wrong, which isn't surprising with all the idiots at BMWNA. The Pennzoil Plat Euro that is LL01 spec is the 5-40, not the 5-30. The 5-30 is LL04, which is the spec for Europe. The 5-30 will not hold up to the high sulfur content in US fuel and should not be used in the US except for very short change intervals.

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All of the above is precisely why I stick with BMW oil and filters.

Otherwise I'd be lying in bed staring at the ceiling all night long wondering if what I had used was ok.

118,000 on my '09 X3 (bought new) and it still runs like new and uses no oil between 6,000 mile oil changes.
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Well I looked in purchasing a Mann HU816x; it is almost the same price as getting OEM. So I did not bother.

I prefer to change my oil myself because it stays much longer, dropping oil.
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The filter doesn't get filled like a typical oil filter does it?


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The filter doesn't get filled like a typical oil filter does it?
Nope. Pops right off the top of the engine, and is replaced dry. Wipe a touch of oil around the O-rings on the canister top before reassembling.
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