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Old 09-28-2013, 10:40 PM
SpeedyE SpeedyE is offline
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New to forum...1st post...2011 335i vs 335iX

Hi guys.
Have always wanted a black BMW my whole life....I need a new car asap, and can almost afford a used one, LOL.

The two cars the dealer has as follows

Certified, and 1-owner
2011 335i-Xdrive 4-door sedan.
40,000 miles
$33,660
1yr/10K left on warranty


Entertainment
HiFi sound system
Anti-theft AM/FM stereo CD/MP3 player audio system with Radio Data System (RDS)
Auxiliary audio input for portable music players
HD Radio with "multicast" FM station reception
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Exterior
17" x 8.0" radial-spoke alloy wheels (style 284) -inc: P225/45R17 run-flat performance tires
2-way power glass moonroof with "one-touch" operation and sliding interior sunshade
Xenon Adaptive Headlights w/dynamic auto-leveling and Corona headlight-rings
Halogen free-form front foglights
Adaptive Brake Lights
Heated dual power mirrors and heated windshield washer jets
Rain-sensing windshield wipers and Automatic headlight control
Ground lighting located in bottom of exterior door handles
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Interior
8-way power front bucket seats with 2-way manual headrests with Active Head Restraints feature, and driver memory with 2 presets for exterior mirror and seat positions
Leatherette upholstery
Front-seat center armrest
Rear-seat center armrest with cupholders
Floor Mats
3-spoke leather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel with audio and Bluetooth phone controls (if so equipped)
Tilt/telescopic steering wheel column
Check Control vehicle monitor system with pictogram display, oil status display, and Condition Based Service indicator
On-board computer with Check Control provides feedback on the vehicle's operating status: oil level indicator and distance to next service appointment/oil change, as well as other detailed information, such as spark plug and micro-filter status. It also provides travel information travel range on remaining fuel, external temperature and more
Service Interval Indicator with miles-to-service readout
Central locking system with center console switch (leaves gas filler door unlocked), double-lock feature and 2-step unlocking
Remote keyless entry with remote trunk release
Coded Driveaway Protection
Power front and rear windows with "one-touch" up/down operation
Dynamic Cruise Control
Advanced Vehicle Key Memory includes climate-control temperature and air-distribution settings, exterior mirror and power seat settings, audio tone settings and radio presets with optional Navigation system, central-locking preferences, and lighting preferences
Electric interior trunk release
Automatic climate control includes micro-filter, automatic air recirculation, left/right temperature control, temperature- and volume-controlled rear outlets, windshield misting sensor, MAX A/C function, heat at rest, and recall of individual user settings
Rear window defroster
Locking glovebox
Front passenger cupholders (dashboard-integrated)
Auxiliary power outlet
Dark burl walnut wood trim
Driver and passenger visor vanity mirrors
BMW Ambiance lighting
Courtesy lights include fade in/fade out, actuation from remote, automatic switch-on when engine is turned off, separately controlled left/right front and rear reading lights, front footwell lighting, and illuminated vanity mirrors
Front seatback storage nets
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Mechanical
6-speed manual transmission
3.0-liter, 300-horsepower, dual overhead cam (DOHC), inline 24-valve 6-cylinder engine with aluminum engine block, TwinPower Turbo technology, Valvetronic, piezo direct injection, and Double-VANOS steplessly variable valve timing
Engine Start/Stop button
Electronic throttle control
Rear wheel drive
Extensive aluminum componentry including front suspension components (forged-aluminum lower arms, steering knuckle); subframe; steering rack; and brake components
Double-pivot type front suspension with dual forged-aluminum lower arms
5-link rear suspension with cast-aluminum upper transverse arms
Front and rear anti-roll (stabilizer) bars
Twin-tube gas-pressure shock absorbers
Engine-speed-sensitive, variable-assist power steering
4-wheel ventilated anti-lock disc brakes with Dynamic Brake Control (DBC)
Chrome-plated exhaust tips
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Safety
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) including Brake Fade Compensation, Start-off Assistant, Brake Drying, and Brake Stand-by features, with Dynamic Traction Control (DTC)
Interlocking door anchoring system to help protect against door intrusion in side impacts
Programmable Daytime Running Lights
Driver's and passenger's front airbag supplemental restraint system (SRS) with advanced technology: dual-threshold, dual-stage deployment; and front-passenger seat sensors designed to prevent unnecessary airbag deployment
Front and rear Head Protection System (HPS)
Seat-mounted front side-impact airbags
Front passenger seat-occupation recognition with passenger's airbag off indicator
Crash sensor activates Battery Safety Terminal disconnect of alternator, fuel pump and starter from battery, automatically unlocks doors, and turns on hazard and interior lights
Impact sensor that activates Battery Safety Terminal disconnect of alternator, fuel pump and starter from battery; and automatically turns on hazard lights and interior lights, and unlocks doors
Automatic locking retractors (ALR) on all passenger-seat safety belts for installation of child-restraint seat
Front safety belts with automatic pretensioners
LATCH attachments on child-restraint safety installation
Child safety rear door locks
Emergency trunk release
Tire Pressure Monitor


Featured Equipment
Navigation System
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package (ZP2)
8 Speakers
AM/FM radio
Anti-Theft AM/FM Stereo CD/MP3 Player
CD player
iPod & USB Adapter
MP3 decoder
Radio data system
Air Conditioning
Automatic temperature control
Front dual zone A/C
Rear air conditioning
Rear window defroster
Lumbar Support
Memory seat
Power driver seat
Power steering
Power windows
Remote keyless entry
Steering wheel mounted A/C controls
Steering wheel mounted audio controls
Four wheel independent suspension
Speed-sensing steering
Traction control
4-Wheel Disc Brakes
ABS brakes
Anti-whiplash front head restraints
Dual front impact airbags
Dual front side impact airbags
Front anti-roll bar
Low tire pressure warning
Occupant sensing airbag
Overhead airbag
Rear anti-roll bar
Power moonroof
BMW Assist w/Bluetooth®
Brake assist
Electronic Stability Control
Delay-off headlights
Front fog lights
Fully automatic headlights
Headlight cleaning
High-Intensity Discharge Headlights
Speed control
Auto-Dimming Mirrors
Bumpers: body-color
Heated door mirrors
Power door mirrors
Auto-Dimming Rear-View Mirror
Digital Compass Mirror
Driver door bin
Driver vanity mirror
Front reading lights
Genuine wood console insert
Genuine wood dashboard insert
Genuine wood door panel insert
Illuminated entry
Leather Shift Knob
Leather steering wheel
Online Information Services
Outside temperature display
Passenger vanity mirror
Rear reading lights
Rear seat center armrest
Tachometer
Telescoping steering wheel
Tilt steering wheel
Trip computer
Universal Garage-Door Opener
Dakota Leather Upholstery
Front Bucket Seats
Front Center Armrest
Heated Front Seats
Leatherette Upholstery
Power passenger seat
Split Fold-Down-Rear Seat
Passenger door bin
Rain sensing wipers
Variably intermittent wipers
Options
COLD WEATHER PKG -inc: heated front seats, split-folding rear seats w/ski bag (REQ: 248 Heated Steering Wheel w/o ZMP M Sport Pkg) (ZCW)
PREMIUM PKG -inc: Dakota leather seat trim, universal garage door opener, auto-dimming pwr folding exterior mirrors, auto-dimming rearview mirror w/compass, front seats w/4-way pwr lumbar, BMW Assist w/4-year subscription, Bluetooth interface *No Longer Factory Orderable, See Dealer for Current Availability* (ZPP)
6-SPEED STEPTRONIC AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION -inc: normal, sport & manual shift modes (205)
HEATED STEERING WHEEL (N/A w/ZMP M Sport Pkg) (248)
HARD DRIVE-BASED NAVIGATION SYSTEM -inc: 16:9 high-resolution display, 3-D screen, voice command system, real time traffic info, iDrive system w/on-board computer, 6 programmable memory buttons, 12 GB media storage (REQ: 6FL iPod & USB Adapter w/639 BMW Assist) (REQ: 639 BMW Assist w/6FL iPod & USB Adapter)


INstalled options
High-Intensity Discharge Headlights
Speed control
Bumpers: body-color
Heated door mirrors
Power door mirrors
Driver door bin
Driver vanity mirror
Front reading lights
Genuine wood console insert
Genuine wood dashboard insert
Genuine wood door panel insert
Illuminated entry
Leather Shift Knob
Leather steering wheel
Outside temperature display
Passenger vanity mirror
Rear reading lights
Rear seat center armrest
Tachometer
Telescoping steering wheel
Tilt steering wheel
Trip computer
Front Bucket Seats
Front Center Armrest
Leatherette Upholstery
Power passenger seat
Passenger door bin
Rain sensing wipers
Variably intermittent wipers



The other car available is;
2) NOT certified, but is a one owner "Fleet"(?) vehicle.
BMW 335i RWD 4-door Sedan
15,000 miles
$34,250
1yr/35K left on warranty


Entertainment
HiFi sound system
Anti-theft AM/FM stereo CD/MP3 player audio system with Radio Data System (RDS)
Auxiliary audio input for portable music players
HD Radio with "multicast" FM station reception
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Exterior
17" x 8.0" radial-spoke alloy wheels (style 284) -inc: P225/45R17 run-flat performance tires
2-way power glass moonroof with "one-touch" operation and sliding interior sunshade
Xenon Adaptive Headlights w/dynamic auto-leveling and Corona headlight-rings
Halogen free-form front foglights
Adaptive Brake Lights
Heated dual power mirrors and heated windshield washer jets
Rain-sensing windshield wipers and Automatic headlight control
Ground lighting located in bottom of exterior door handles
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Interior
8-way power front bucket seats with 2-way manual headrests with Active Head Restraints feature, and driver memory with 2 presets for exterior mirror and seat positions
Leatherette upholstery
Front-seat center armrest
Rear-seat center armrest with cupholders
Floor Mats
3-spoke leather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel with audio and Bluetooth phone controls (if so equipped)
Tilt/telescopic steering wheel column
Check Control vehicle monitor system with pictogram display, oil status display, and Condition Based Service indicator
On-board computer with Check Control provides feedback on the vehicle's operating status: oil level indicator and distance to next service appointment/oil change, as well as other detailed information, such as spark plug and micro-filter status. It also provides travel information travel range on remaining fuel, external temperature and more
Service Interval Indicator with miles-to-service readout
Central locking system with center console switch (leaves gas filler door unlocked), double-lock feature and 2-step unlocking
Remote keyless entry with remote trunk release
Coded Driveaway Protection
Power front and rear windows with "one-touch" up/down operation
Dynamic Cruise Control
Advanced Vehicle Key Memory includes climate-control temperature and air-distribution settings, exterior mirror and power seat settings, audio tone settings and radio presets with optional Navigation system, central-locking preferences, and lighting preferences
Electric interior trunk release
Automatic climate control includes micro-filter, automatic air recirculation, left/right temperature control, temperature- and volume-controlled rear outlets, windshield misting sensor, MAX A/C function, heat at rest, and recall of individual user settings
Rear window defroster
Locking glovebox
Front passenger cupholders (dashboard-integrated)
Auxiliary power outlet
Dark burl walnut wood trim
Driver and passenger visor vanity mirrors
BMW Ambiance lighting
Courtesy lights include fade in/fade out, actuation from remote, automatic switch-on when engine is turned off, separately controlled left/right front and rear reading lights, front footwell lighting, and illuminated vanity mirrors
Front seatback storage nets
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Mechanical
6-speed manual transmission
3.0-liter, 300-horsepower, dual overhead cam (DOHC), inline 24-valve 6-cylinder engine with aluminum engine block, TwinPower Turbo technology, Valvetronic, piezo direct injection, and Double-VANOS steplessly variable valve timing
Engine Start/Stop button
Electronic throttle control
Rear wheel drive
Extensive aluminum componentry including front suspension components (forged-aluminum lower arms, steering knuckle); subframe; steering rack; and brake components
Double-pivot type front suspension with dual forged-aluminum lower arms
5-link rear suspension with cast-aluminum upper transverse arms
Front and rear anti-roll (stabilizer) bars
Twin-tube gas-pressure shock absorbers
Engine-speed-sensitive, variable-assist power steering
4-wheel ventilated anti-lock disc brakes with Dynamic Brake Control (DBC)
Chrome-plated exhaust tips
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Safety
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) including Brake Fade Compensation, Start-off Assistant, Brake Drying, and Brake Stand-by features, with Dynamic Traction Control (DTC)
Interlocking door anchoring system to help protect against door intrusion in side impacts
Programmable Daytime Running Lights
Driver's and passenger's front airbag supplemental restraint system (SRS) with advanced technology: dual-threshold, dual-stage deployment; and front-passenger seat sensors designed to prevent unnecessary airbag deployment
Front and rear Head Protection System (HPS)
Seat-mounted front side-impact airbags
Front passenger seat-occupation recognition with passenger's airbag off indicator
Crash sensor activates Battery Safety Terminal disconnect of alternator, fuel pump and starter from battery, automatically unlocks doors, and turns on hazard and interior lights
Impact sensor that activates Battery Safety Terminal disconnect of alternator, fuel pump and starter from battery; and automatically turns on hazard lights and interior lights, and unlocks doors
Automatic locking retractors (ALR) on all passenger-seat safety belts for installation of child-restraint seat
Front safety belts with automatic pretensioners
LATCH attachments on child-restraint safety installation
Child safety rear door locks
Emergency trunk release
Tire Pressure Monitor
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.


Chrome-plated exhaust tips
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.
Safety
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) including Brake Fade Compensation, Start-off Assistant, Brake Drying, and Brake Stand-by features, with Dynamic Traction Control (DTC)
Interlocking door anchoring system to help protect against door intrusion in side impacts
Programmable Daytime Running Lights
Driver's and passenger's front airbag supplemental restraint system (SRS) with advanced technology: dual-threshold, dual-stage deployment; and front-passenger seat sensors designed to prevent unnecessary airbag deployment
Front and rear Head Protection System (HPS)
Seat-mounted front side-impact airbags
Front passenger seat-occupation recognition with passenger's airbag off indicator
Crash sensor activates Battery Safety Terminal disconnect of alternator, fuel pump and starter from battery, automatically unlocks doors, and turns on hazard and interior lights
Impact sensor that activates Battery Safety Terminal disconnect of alternator, fuel pump and starter from battery; and automatically turns on hazard lights and interior lights, and unlocks doors
Automatic locking retractors (ALR) on all passenger-seat safety belts for installation of child-restraint seat
Front safety belts with automatic pretensioners
LATCH attachments on child-restraint safety installation
Child safety rear door locks
Emergency trunk release
Tire Pressure Monitor
The features and options listed are for a New 2011 BMW 335i Sedan and may not apply to this specific vehicle.


Featured Equipment
8 Speakers
AM/FM radio
Anti-Theft AM/FM Stereo CD/MP3 Player
CD player
MP3 decoder
Radio data system
Air Conditioning
Automatic temperature control
Front dual zone A/C
Rear air conditioning
Rear window defroster
Memory seat
Power driver seat
Power steering
Power windows
Remote keyless entry
Steering wheel mounted A/C controls
Steering wheel mounted audio controls
Four wheel independent suspension
Speed-sensing steering
Traction control
4-Wheel Disc Brakes
ABS brakes
Anti-whiplash front head restraints
Dual front impact airbags
Dual front side impact airbags
Front anti-roll bar
Low tire pressure warning
Occupant sensing airbag
Overhead airbag
Rear anti-roll bar
Power moonroof
Brake assist
Electronic Stability Control
Delay-off headlights
Front fog lights
Fully automatic headlights
High-Intensity Discharge Headlights
Speed control
Bumpers: body-color
Heated door mirrors
Power door mirrors
Driver door bin
Driver vanity mirror
Front reading lights
Genuine wood console insert
Genuine wood dashboard insert
Genuine wood door panel insert
Illuminated entry
Leather Shift Knob
Leather steering wheel
Outside temperature display
Passenger vanity mirror
Rear reading lights
Rear seat center armrest
Tachometer
Telescoping steering wheel
Tilt steering wheel
Trip computer
Front Bucket Seats
Front Center Armrest
Leatherette Upholstery
Power passenger seat
Passenger door bin
Rain sensing wipers
Variably intermittent wipers



So basically
a 2011 335i X-drive w/ 40K-miles and 1-yr/10K warranty for $33,660
or
a 2011 335i RWD w/ 15K-miles and 1-yr/35K warranty for $34,250

I have two concerns:
1) RWD vs X-drive.
I test drove the X-drive and accell & handling were very good, although I was unable to really dig-in-deep and push the car.
I did not drive the RWD car.
Comments on handling/accel/performance of the two cars? I want the best handling/braking/forgiving/predictable of the two cars. The X was plenty fast for me, I suspect the RWD will at least be equally fast. I am NOT concerned about handling/traction in the snow, as this will be a dry weather car.

2)Reliability!
I am basically buying a car I cannot afford to fix if it has any type of major problems; ie, turbo, engine, trans/etc. From what I have read these cars are not reliable, and do have expensive issues....this is making me nervous.
Any advice on this concern?

I am planning to offer $28K on either car I decide on. Is this a fair, but low, price for these cars, or is it an insult to the dealer?

Thank you all in advance.
I have dreamed of a BMW my entire life, I would love to get one, just absolutely terrified of a major ($) engine/trans/turbo/FI catastrophe, that I would not have the money to fix.

Thanks again, I will read all your responses and advice.

FWIW, I drove a brand new 2013 infinity G37 X-AWD, Sport (shocks, 19" wheels, Larger brembo brakes) and it was phenomenal.
Comes w/ a new mfg warranty.
Car retails for $50,000
Dealer said he could do it for $41K. I was gonna offer $38K (???)

Would I be better off w/ the G37xS because it is new? It costs a lot more though.

Thanks all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 09-29-2013, 05:11 AM
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or is it an insult to the dealer?

yeah, that's the last thing you want to do
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1) 2WD. From your post I'm not sure why you are even looking at a 4WD model.
2) A used 335 is not at the top of the reliability list by a longshot.

Good luck.
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Hi guys.

I know I'm excited!!!!!! But we'll be about 10 days working through the specification list. Did it take long to key in?

Now, really....Infinity? No. Score your 335i and begin the mods - can be dramatically better than stock. A few M parts.....aftermarket shocks & springs.....li'l elbow grease.....$500 chip and you'll have something.

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And make it a 2009/2010 so can get N54 engine - a number of things improved 2009+. Save some money too....put that against mods to totally - I mean that - outclass stock 2011 models.

Stay away from xi for handling satisfaction. Are you familiar with limited slip differentials?
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