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Old 09-30-2013, 10:32 AM
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Just bought a 2011 E90 from a dealer but found one tire has a thread tire plug

Just bought my first bimmer this weekend, a 2011 E90 with 11k miles on it. Super excited! But this morning, I found that one of the rear tire has a tire plug on it, pretty close to the side. I have never plugged or patched a tire before. The dealer suggested me to take it to the mechanic first. Should I be worried about it? Should I insist on the dealer to fix it? I just don't want to be unreasonable...
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:57 AM
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I think it would be reasonable to ask the dealer to provide me a tire at their cost and install it at no charge. That would cost me some $$, but the dealer most likely isn't the one who put the plug in.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:26 AM
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Just bought my first bimmer this weekend, a 2011 E90 with 11k miles on it. Super excited! But this morning, I found that one of the rear tire has a tire plug on it, pretty close to the side. I have never plugged or patched a tire before. The dealer suggested me to take it to the mechanic first. Should I be worried about it? Should I insist on the dealer to fix it? I just don't want to be unreasonable...
According to the RMA (tire manufacturers assn.), and the TIA (tire retailers assn.) tire repairs are restricted to the immediate tread area:

http://www.rma.org/tire-safety/tire-repair/

One of the reasons for this is that there is too much 'flexing' close to the tire's shoulder area and a repair may fail. Sounds like you have an improper and unsafe tire repair. It can't be fixed; you probably need a new tire.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:55 AM
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Just bought a 2011 E90 from a dealer but found one tire has a thread tire plug

Take it back to the dealer and have them fix it, you bought the car from them like that


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Old 09-30-2013, 12:17 PM
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Hmm... should I ask them to replace both rear tires or just one? at 11k miles?
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:20 PM
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Just bought a 2011 E90 from a dealer but found one tire has a thread tire plug

I would cause they give you a warranty for the car. Also you just got the car and there was something wrong with it when you got it.


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Old 09-30-2013, 12:27 PM
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It was not a BMW center, but a small local dealer. They sold it "AS-IS" with factory warranty.
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:31 PM
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Just bought a 2011 E90 from a dealer but found one tire has a thread tire plug

They have to offer a 1,000mile warranty something like that where you can bring the car back.


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If that's the case, then any adjustment is entirely their goodwill. "As-Is" means what it says.

Go for one tire, and think as I suggested above.

But IF the plug is on the sidewall, the tire is unsafe as per tire industry standards, and you have an argument that the car was not sold in safe condition and a tire is absolutely required.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:22 PM
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Thanks guys! I will try to talk to them...
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my two cents worth... you argue with dealer for something worth $30

I would rather wait for a big claim....
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I thought BMW dealers ask more than $300 to replace a tire?
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they can always fix the plug with a patch for $30
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I attach a photo. I think it is too close to the side for a plug or patch...



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Re: Just bought a 2011 E90 from a dealer but found one tire has a thread tire plug

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Umm, yeah, that's almost on the sidewall. Should not have been patched, tire is toast.

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they can always fix the plug with a patch for $30
Not legally, they can't. And the owner would be watching. IMO the tire should be removed immediately.
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That is a hazard. Who at that dealer inspects the cars? Stevie Wonder. They should not have sold a car with that tire.
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A dangerous tire repair...it shouldn't be driven. Idiots everywhere.

EDIT: Not only is the repair well off of the acceptable area (in the immediate tread area), but it is an unacceptable and dangerous PLUG repair.

The whole tire industry as well as the tire retailer's association (independent tire retail shops - small business owners) DO NOT accept tire plugs as a safe tire repair.

Can anyone in here name an authoritative tire industry organization that accepts tire 'plugs' as a safe repair? No, they can't.
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Thanks for all the heads up! Didn't realize that it is this bad... I will drive to the dealer first thing tomorrow morning, with a big doubt on their so-claimed "careful inspection"
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That is a hazard. Who at the dealer inspect the car? Stevie Wonder. They should not have sold a car with a that tire.
Ha ha... "I see the tire" said Stevie Wonder to a deaf salesman
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The dealer suggested me to take it to the mechanic first. Should I be worried about it? Should I insist on the dealer to fix it? I just don't want to be unreasonable...
Yes, Yes and your not being unreasonable asking the dealer to make you vehicle safe to drive.

Take it to a tire (instead of a mechanic for this) dealer. I am pretty sure they will refuse to repair it. Then have the tire shop call the car dealer to see if they will pay for the replacement tire. Even if the car dealer won't pay, get a new tire or set of tires.

Your not safe driving on that plugged tire.

Take city streets to the tire dealer. Try and avoid (stay under 50 mph or less) freeway driving,

If you ever decide to carry a tire plug kit (I have a plug kit) it should only be used as a temporary repair even if the plug is within the tread area.

Correct tire repair.

http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/tire-r...red-correctly-

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Ps. A new tire can be shaved to match the tread depth of the other tire.

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And BTW - that plug is so visible that any decent inspection by the dealer when they got the car should have found the plug and resulted in installing a new tire. It's a mark against them that they didn't do so. That sucker is sticking out of the tire quite a ways.
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