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Old 09-30-2013, 10:36 PM
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Winter Tire/Wheel Question...

So I have a 2011 328i xDrive. No sport package or anything. Just a premium package one and that's about it for options.

17" Wheels are the stock ones, and I decided to pop over to Tirerack.

I noticed that they also have a 16" option for wheels/tires.

Is a 16" wheel doable? I wouldn't mind trying that since typically, the smaller wheel diameter usually equals cheaper wheels/tires.

Since I feel somewhat lazy about trying to source out and find a donut, are there any particular Run Flat Snow tires I should consider? I drive mostly in the Western PA area from the West Virginia area (Morgantown) all the way up to Erie, PA. Given that, I can and do see a lot of snow and ice. (Run flat snow tires seem to be rare based on what I've seen so far from Tirerack) If Run flats aren't an option, I did use the General Altimax Arctic with great success on the X3 in the past and I've used Nokkian Hakka 4's before as a comparison. The Generals were probably 90% as good as the Nokkian for a drastically lower price there. Anyone have any feedback on these for the E90s?

Also, I do happen to have a 17" wheel set from my old X3 that I recently got rid of. From what I can tell on the wheels, they were used on a first generation X5(guessing from the tires that were originally on them) and have an offset of (I believe?) ET38.

Looking up the offset charts, I seem to be right at the border of what's typically on an E90 sedan. Centerbore and lug spacing seem to be a match, but I'm wondering if these are remotely an option for the E90. This could potentially be a cheaper route to just buy decent tires for the rims and buy the TPMS, however, I'm wondering if I'm not simply better off looking for the 16, or 17" rims on Tirerack.

A basic 16" setup from what I can tell (if they fit) would basically set me back approx $940 which would be the 4 wheels, 4 General Altimax Arctics and 4 TPMS sensors including the Hunter Roadforce balancing and installation of the sensors.

Anything else I should make note of?
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:52 AM
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I'm new here, so someone correct me if i'm wrong..

But I think unless you have Sport or M-Sport package, you can go down to 16s, maybe even 15s.

I'm over in Germany and I see E90s with smaller rims in the winter all the time.

I'm also in the market for winter rims/tires, and again, from what i've learned so far since i'm M-Sport I can't go below 17.
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:00 AM
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Yes, you can go to 16" on a 328.

If you have a 335, the smallest you could go is 17" due to the larger brake rotor size, regardless of the suspension option.

Regarding a spare, while the winter tires are on the car you can always throw one of you summer tires into the trunk to use as a spare if you really want to.
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:27 AM
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Hey thanks for the clarification
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:29 AM
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Yes, you can go to 16" on a 328.

If you have a 335, the smallest you could go is 17" due to the larger brake rotor size, regardless of the suspension option.

Regarding a spare, while the winter tires are on the car you can always throw one of you summer tires into the trunk to use as a spare if you really want to.
derp. Thanks for also indirectly answering an unanswered question I had as well about brake feel. Before buying the 328i xdrive sedan, I had also driven a 328i xdrive coupe that happened to have the sport package. Going to guess that the massive difference in brake feel I felt was because of the aforementioned brake rotor change too, I'm guessing.


If 16" wheels are an option, I might actually just forego the 17" wheels and try for that. I did find in the past that when I had the X3, I actually preferred the traction I got in the winter of my A4 much more than the X3 because the 245 series of the X3 tended to lose it's snow/ice grip a lot more than the 195 series winter wheels I used on the A4. Going to guess that in the same sense, I can get better winter traction with the 205 series 16" wheels rather than sticking with the 225 series 17" wheels.

Thank you!
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Narrower tires are always better than wider if you're on snow.

Best car I ever owned in the snow is my 2004 Passat 4motion. Absolute tiger on 195 Bridgestone Blizzak WS tires. My 335xi with 225 Blizzak WS tires was noticeably squirrellyer when driven back-to-back in the same storm, even through the xDrive had stability control and the Passat did not.

As a side note, IIRC an E90 series 328 uses the same size brakes whether it has the sport package or not. I'm not sure why there would be a difference in braking performance between an xDrive coupe and an xDrive sedan, but I'll confess to not paying a ton of attention to the issue.

All bets are off on the F30 series, though. From what I understand, the "M Brakes" option apparently pumps you up to an 18" wheel regardless.
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Narrower tires are always better than wider if you're on snow.
And chains/cables will fit on narrow wheels/tires while they won't on wide-ass sets without trashing your fenders and hooking on the springs.
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