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Old 10-04-2013, 05:26 PM
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Help please!

This might be the wrong place to post this, as this is my first post on the forum and it isn't a good one unfortunately. I just picked up my 07 6spd 335i last night, woo hoo right? Well, not so much. I got in it this morning went to PT, came out of PT tried to start the car and it just glitched out. The fuel gauge was sputtering around, the dash lights flickered a little bit, I'm not too sure whats all going on here. I jump started the car, and she fired right up, drove it back to my house (not even 3 miles away on base) and parked it. Tried starting it up a few times after that and it fired right up. Ran upstairs for about 10 minutes and came back down to leave again & the same thing happened. I was told there is a recall for the battery, or battery cable, but I called BMW and they said it does't sound like thats the issue but they asked me to bring it on so they can charge me $150 to diagnose it. Just checking with you guys and gals because I know you guys probably have seen this post few times here and there.

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Old 10-04-2013, 05:26 PM
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Help!

If anyone is local, PM me and ill give you my number.

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Old 10-04-2013, 06:56 PM
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They are required to do the battery cable recall.

They are required to do the battery cable recall.
Do you know if its been done.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:52 PM
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The battery might be dying....you have a volt meter?
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:29 PM
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They are required to do the battery cable recall.
Do you know if its been done.
Thats what I was told, but I just got off the phone with BMW of Honolulu & they're saying that IF I bring the car in & the problem ISN'T the battery cable, then I owe them $150 for the diagnostics fee, THEN the battery if the problem is the battery (which is what the service rep is saying it probably is) is $289 + labor for installation. He said it would come out to $630 for all that... not happening.

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The battery might be dying....you have a volt meter?
I don't at the moment, I'm still waiting for my tools to get here.

side note: I have two buddies in FL that are quite knowledgeable with BMW's, e9x series more specifically and the 3.5L tt motor to be even more specific, both the 335 and the 135) and they're telling me their cars did the SAME thing and it was that battery cable. I just don't understand why BMW here is telling me it doesn't appear to be related to that?
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:21 PM
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another 335i fiasco
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:30 PM
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There is no 3.5 liter motor.

There is no 3.5 liter motor. Its a 3 liter tt.
No matter if it is the cable or not if you have not had this done the cable recall should
be done at no expense to you. They probably know you are a captive audience and are messing
with you .
I guess you can't go to the next BMW dealership to easy there.
You could have the battery checked though as in check it yourself. .
Since you are on an island are you driving the car enough to keep a charge on the battery.
If the car sits for long periods the battery will discharge in a month to 6 weeks these cars are
battery hogs even when parked.(and that would be with a healthy battery)

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Old 10-05-2013, 07:12 AM
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This might be the wrong place to post this, as this is my first post on the forum and it isn't a good one unfortunately. I just picked up my 07 6spd 335i last night, woo hoo right? Well, not so much. I got in it this morning went to PT, came out of PT tried to start the car and it just glitched out. The fuel gauge was sputtering around, the dash lights flickered a little bit, I'm not too sure whats all going on here. I jump started the car, and she fired right up, drove it back to my house (not even 3 miles away on base) and parked it. Tried starting it up a few times after that and it fired right up. Ran upstairs for about 10 minutes and came back down to leave again & the same thing happened. I was told there is a recall for the battery, or battery cable, but I called BMW and they said it does't sound like thats the issue but they asked me to bring it on so they can charge me $150 to diagnose it. Just checking with you guys and gals because I know you guys probably have seen this post few times here and there.

It is always darkest before the dawn....view video and proceed as indicated.

How'd it come out?

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Old 10-05-2013, 08:00 AM
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Go to ther dealership and have the recall done.....tell them you dont want any diagnostics done on the underlying problem. If the problem still happens after the recall, buy a new battery and install it yourself, if you are handy.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:55 AM
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I went in for the battery cable recall and they checked the car as well. Maybe you can save on the diagnostic fee if you go in for the battery cable recall.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:43 AM
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Make an app't with BMW to have the cable recall done. Your symptoms are consistent with the failure modes expected with the cable connection problem. Charge your battery back to tiptop condition. Drive your car in for its appointment, get the recall fix done. Don't tell them anything about the other problem. Refuse any other suggested services. Your battery being almost 7 years old they are going to suggest a new battery regardless. Drive away. See if the problem reoccurs.
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:35 PM
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I normally put stealerships down but I don't know why everyone is doubting this dealer. It's common practice to charge the $150 diag fee regardless of whether or not this is for a recall or an out of warranty claim.

They waive the $150 fee if the car falls under the recall. If the battery is the issue (which I doubt), you don't have to get the battery installed at the dealer. You only pay the $150. Normally, most dealerships will credit some or all of the diag fee to the repair.

The symptoms you describe sound exactly like those of the battery cable recall. My bet is that this is your issue.

If you know anyone with a BMW specific scan tool have them scan your DME for faults. If there is nothing related to battery or voltage stored, then it's most likely the battery cable recall. It's common for this issue to not store faults as the DME loses power before it can process the fault.

If there are low voltage errors, it can be your battery as well as your alternator. It could even be a bad ground.
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Make an app't with BMW to have the cable recall done. Your symptoms are consistent with the failure modes expected with the cable connection problem. Charge your battery back to tiptop condition. Drive your car in for its appointment, get the recall fix done. Don't tell them anything about the other problem. Refuse any other suggested services. Your battery being almost 7 years old they are going to suggest a new battery regardless. Drive away. See if the problem reoccurs.


Outrageous attitude on the part of the dealer IMO in view of:

1. His battery recall has not been completed (regardless of what was said about it).
2. The age of his battery (a simple check I believe).
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Thanks for the input guys! So I'm guessing it isn't bad to put a non-bmw battery in the car from what has been said above?
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:36 PM
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If it isn't the connector recall it is almost certainly the battery.

Have you checked the Auto Skills Center on base. Most have a Snap-on computer that will read BMW codes. The charge is usually only $10.
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Thanks for the input guys! So I'm guessing it isn't bad to put a non-bmw battery in the car from what has been said above?

Nope, not a problem.

But.

Like doing something important without telling your wife, unpredictable results can and prob will occur!

Register your new battery - take care t'let your car know what's happening and it'll take care of you.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:37 AM
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Nope, not a problem.

But.

Like doing something important without telling your wife, unpredictable results can and prob will occur!

Register your new battery - take care t'let your car know what's happening and it'll take care of you.
hahaha well i don't have one of those anymore so i dont have to worry about that

what do you mean, register the new battery?
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The cars ECU should be "told" that it has a new battery. This revises the charging system back to default settings so it does not overcharge the new battery. As a battery ages the charge rate increases but the system was not programed to drop the charge rate when a fresh battery is installed. The dealer will most likely nail you for the register. Best bet (least expensive) all round is buy a battery at the auto store, install it then find an indi shop to register it.

IIRC the BT tool can do this. A single vin unit is $179 & is very useful if you work on your own car.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:09 AM
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hahaha well i don't have one of those anymore so i dont have to worry about that

what do you mean, register the new battery?


OMG! OMG! OMG!


Your new battery stands of chance of aging rather severely if charged incorrectly - REGISTER to avoid that!


Even new BMW batteries need registration - charging a new unit's diff than a older, on-last-legs batt.

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