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Old 10-08-2013, 07:19 PM
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2500 miles from home and "engine malfunction" message

So here I am, 2500 miles from home just past the mid-point in a 7000+ mile trip cross country and back. I have gotten 4 "engine malfunction - reduced power" dinger messages. Each time I stop and re-start the engine... all codes gone away. The first one or two happened at high altitude in the mountains but with cold air. The second two occured at moderate altitudes 3-4000 ft in warm (85-90 degree) weather. I was on cruise control at ~80 mph. I checked the oil temp gauge and it might have been in the 250-260 degree range. Higher than I am used to seeing (but not drastic?)

This happened twce about two years ago on a similar trip. The dealer, after return home, told me it must have been a glitch and reloaded some software to be sure. HPFP had been replaced earlier (with no signs of failure apparent to me).

Is this just a glitch? Should I find a BMW dealership in Willcox, AZ or just keep on pushing?
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:59 PM
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If I was near a dealer, I'd get it in and have it checked out, for peace of mind if nothing else. You've got a lot of miles ahead of you.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:28 AM
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If I was near a dealer, I'd get it in and have it checked out, for peace of mind if nothing else. You've got a lot of miles ahead of you.
Ditto ... this can be caused by many different things ...you should get it checked out.
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So here I am, 2500 miles from home just past the mid-point in a 7000+ mile trip cross country and back. I have gotten 4 "engine malfunction - reduced power" dinger messages. Each time I stop and re-start the engine... all codes gone away. The first one or two happened at high altitude in the mountains but with cold air. The second two occured at moderate altitudes 3-4000 ft in warm (85-90 degree) weather. I was on cruise control at ~80 mph. I checked the oil temp gauge and it might have been in the 250-260 degree range. Higher than I am used to seeing (but not drastic?)

This happened twce about two years ago on a similar trip. The dealer, after return home, told me it must have been a glitch and reloaded some software to be sure. HPFP had been replaced earlier (with no signs of failure apparent to me).

Is this just a glitch? Should I find a BMW dealership in Willcox, AZ or just keep on pushing?
  1. Get to an Indy with code reader - GT1 or Bavarian Technic - at once.
  2. See what codes there are.
  3. Decide what to do.


Is there a dealer in Wilcox? They'll have GT1....
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If I was near a dealer, I'd get it in and have it checked out, for peace of mind if nothing else. You've got a lot of miles ahead of you.
You dont want to be stuck in the middel of tge desert... Dingo can come and get you

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Now in Pecos Texas. Everything worked well today, at altitude and 80 mph speed limit.
Tomorrow Dallas... my best chance for a dealership.
We'll see how it goes.
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So here I am, 2500 miles from home just past the mid-point in a 7000+ mile trip cross country and back. I have gotten 4 "engine malfunction - reduced power" dinger messages. Each time I stop and re-start the engine... all codes gone away. The first one or two happened at high altitude in the mountains but with cold air. The second two occured at moderate altitudes 3-4000 ft in warm (85-90 degree) weather. I was on cruise control at ~80 mph. I checked the oil temp gauge and it might have been in the 250-260 degree range. Higher than I am used to seeing (but not drastic?)

This happened twce about two years ago on a similar trip. The dealer, after return home, told me it must have been a glitch and reloaded some software to be sure. HPFP had been replaced earlier (with no signs of failure apparent to me).

Is this just a glitch? Should I find a BMW dealership in Willcox, AZ or just keep on pushing?
What a pain in the neck..."ghost" engine malfunction codes. I don't know what HPFP "generation" you had replaced but many of us had follow-on "re-coding" after the replacement. If this was required, however, you should have been notified.
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I forgot to ask...although I can't imagine that this could be a cause for your "codes," does your car have the oil cooler that was installed on later year cars? You did mention higher than normal temps...
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Now in Pecos Texas. Everything worked well today, at altitude and 80 mph speed limit.
Tomorrow Dallas... my best chance for a dealership.
We'll see how it goes.
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Oh Lord,

I've been in Pecos, Texas. The only thing there is a Walmart, a Pizza Hut and a Best Western. When we went through there in 2010 I made the comment that I wouldn't want to be stuck there if I had an issue with an RFT. If fact Pecos, Texas was the driver for the decision point of carrying a compact spare with RFT's on road trips.

The best thing (next to Oklahoma) in your rear view mirror is Pecos, Texas.
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Now in Pecos Texas. Everything worked well today, at altitude and 80 mph speed limit.
Tomorrow Dallas... my best chance for a dealership.
We'll see how it goes.
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Must be the Texas warm weather that keeps the engine working well
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Oh Lord,

I've been in Pecos, Texas. The only thing there is a Walmart, a Pizza Hut and a Best Western. When we went through there in 2010 I made the comment that I wouldn't want to be stuck there if I had an issue with an RFT. If fact Pecos, Texas was the driver for the decision point of carrying a compact spare with RFT's on road trips.

The best thing (next to Oklahoma) in your rear view mirror is Pecos, Texas.

For a man, mighty slim pickins. Yup, Pecos misses one, but only one, requirement for life: A Bar. And remember, two Bars are better than one.


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No idea about the oil cooler.
There is a liquor store here so we aren't too deprived.
Actually had a good tex-mex dinner at Alfredo's Resaurant.
Kind of like the moon. No atmosphere.
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For a man, mighty slim pickins. Yup, Pecos misses one, but only one, requirement for life: A Bar. And remember, two Bars are better than one.

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Cal, Cal, Cal ... ya gotta get out to the sticks more, buddy. There IS a bar. It just doesn't have a sign out front that says "bar."

I'd bet a fiver the Pecos WalMart sells package goods. And it's got a big honkin' parking lot. And the local "yutes" have pickup trucks in abundance.

There's your bar.
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The best thing (next to Oklahoma) in your rear view mirror is Pecos, Texas.
You're in Houston and you mention other places as the best thing in your rear view mirror? I lived in Houston for 17 years and all I saw in my rear view mirror (and out the windshield) was stop and go traffic. Up here I have miles of nearby open well paved country roads perfect for driving with the top down. I still remember the time in Houston on 45 when a hubcap flew up and took out the windshield of my Suburban and I had to nurse it to the side of the road in 60 mph traffic......Pecos at 80 miles per hour doesn't sound bad versus 10 on the West Loop.

I liked living in Houston but driving my BMW's there wasn't always fun.
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Home safe in MD. No more dingers since AZ.
Have to take it in next week and see if there are any codes still left.
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Despite the dreaded dingers going off and increasing your blood pressure, at the end of the day your Beemer got you there and got you back again.
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Thanks. Not taking it in until I get the bugs cleaned off. Friggin' mess!
Oh, ya, the car ran great. This is it's second cross country (and back) trip.
This time it was 7100 miles over 3-1/2 weeks. Not all interstate roade either. A joy to drive.
30.5 mpg indicated, but i calculated consistently about 2.5% less. Not complaining either way.
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Should'a mentioned that I've been to Brisbane.... a stop off on my way to spend ~4 days in Mt Isa.
Quite a contrast.
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You're in Houston and you mention other places as the best thing in your rear view mirror? I lived in Houston for 17 years and all I saw in my rear view mirror (and out the windshield) was stop and go traffic. Up here I have miles of nearby open well paved country roads perfect for driving with the top down. I still remember the time in Houston on 45 when a hubcap flew up and took out the windshield of my Suburban and I had to nurse it to the side of the road in 60 mph traffic......Pecos at 80 miles per hour doesn't sound bad versus 10 on the West Loop.

I liked living in Houston but driving my BMW's there wasn't always fun.
LOL!!
Just a rebadge of Mack Davis "Lubbock in my rearview mirror". Believe me, I'm glad I don't regularly play in the 610 loop rat race these days.

ps: even though I've lived in Houston for 20+ years, my roots are still in Colorado.

Certainly did not mean to offend.
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LOL!!
Just a rebadge of Mack Davis "Lubbock in my rearview mirror". Believe me, I'm glad I don't regularly play in the 610 loop rat race these days.

ps: even though I've lived in Houston for 20+ years, my roots are still in Colorado.

Certainly did not mean to offend.
No worries. No offense taken. I love reading your posts.

There are things I do miss in Houston (running in Memorial Park, lots of good restaurants), but the 610 loop isn't one of them. Glad you are avoiding it.....
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If it's only happening when you're going wot it could be as simple as a spark plug. Are you noticing any symptoms when it happens?
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Not sure I ever had it at wot. Usually it was when on cruise control at about 80mph.
There was some altitude involved.... 4000 up to say 8000 ft.
The oil temp was 250 to 260, I think.
On the rest of the trip the oil temp only got up to about 255 when I watched it closely... but no dingers.
I'm still guessing oil temp is the culprit.
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