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Old 10-09-2013, 03:04 PM
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How do I know for sure?

I have never had a dealer or anyone ever change my oil! And I hate the fact of letting anyone touch my car including BMW! I am having my oil change done this Monday, I still have 6 months left on my factory warranty. This may be a crazy question, but how do I know they are really gonna change my oil? It's about at the 8000 mile mark since the last oil change, but a year has passed. They could just say they did, do a reset, but I would not really know, especially with no dipstick to check and see if the oil is new! I'd like to think a dealer, especially BMW, would be honorable, but I've had some nightmares with dealer service departments before!
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:16 PM
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Short of draining the oil and checking? I cant think of any other way to verify.

Why? If you suspect this dealer of cheating you, why would you use them for the service?
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:22 PM
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I have never had a dealer or anyone ever change my oil! And I hate the fact of letting anyone touch my car including BMW! I am having my oil change done this Monday, I still have 6 months left on my factory warranty. This may be a crazy question, but how do I know they are really gonna change my oil? It's about at the 8000 mile mark since the last oil change, but a year has passed. They could just say they did, do a reset, but I would not really know, especially with no dipstick to check and see if the oil is new! I'd like to think a dealer, especially BMW, would be honorable, but I've had some nightmares with dealer service departments before!
Put small dabs of nail polish on the drain bolt and filter housing before the service.
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Put small dabs of nail polish on the drain bolt and filter housing before the service.
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:45 PM
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I saw this thread thanks to it being pointed out by A B Able Truck, there are a couple of very funny ones.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...470&highlight=

Humor aside, I wonder if you could just ask them for the oil containers, filter, and o-rings, call it a done deal, and you just DIY?

Then there are more extreme measures like hidden cameras...
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:50 PM
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Put small dabs of nail polish on the drain bolt and filter housing before the service.
I like it!!

I'm not suspecting this will happen, but one never knows. I will probably pull the oil filter cover and see what the oil looks like. It's like when I purchase a car, used, I know the oil has been changed and can see it is fresh, but I still do it myself, within days, to be sure the right type and weight oil is in my motor! Anal??.......I suppose so
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:55 PM
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I have never had a dealer or anyone ever change my oil! And I hate the fact of letting anyone touch my car including BMW! I am having my oil change done this Monday, I still have 6 months left on my factory warranty. This may be a crazy question, but how do I know they are really gonna change my oil? It's about at the 8000 mile mark since the last oil change, but a year has passed. They could just say they did, do a reset, but I would not really know, especially with no dipstick to check and see if the oil is new! I'd like to think a dealer, especially BMW, would be honorable, but I've had some nightmares with dealer service departments before!
Have some faith in people my friend

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Have some faith in people my friend

It's Karma : if you trust people, people will trust you

simple as that
Not quite that simple. There are scumbags who violate trust all the time.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:56 PM
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short of draining the oil and checking? I cant think of any other way to verify.

why? If you suspect this dealer of cheating you, why would you use them for the service?
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Put small dabs of nail polish on the drain bolt and filter housing before the service.
I guess "professional" cheaters could put the car on the lift and "gussy up" the nail polish...making it look like the drain plug was moved?

How do we know that alignments were actually done?

This 'mistrust' has to have a limit but quite frankly I never thought much about our 'electronic dip stick' and how it might lead to "temptation."

Good grief...now you've made me paranoid.
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bring car to dealer then sit and watch

take your camera too

bring your own lawyer just in case

Man... it's only an oil change
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Gambles and Cheaters heaven......
I'm actually from New York City! Probably one of the places where the "Con" originated. Don't get me wrong, in not gonna sweat it, but I wouldn't put it past some repair shops. I've seen some of these tv shows where they go in with a hidden camera and catch these morons try and rip u a new A-Hole with problems that don't exist, and try and charge for repairs they never performed! With that said....we are talking about BMW, I'd like to think a very prestigious automobile company, and I honestly don't think they would do that! But I won't feel perfect till I'm doing my oil changes myself!
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This one is easy.

Before you take the car in for service, make sure the plastic shrouding on the engine that encases the oil inlet is pristinely clean. No matter how careful the dealership guys think they are, they usually spill a drop or two. There is your sign.

I wipe down my engine bay with a damp cloth every time I wash the car - in essence every week. That way, nothing escapes my notice.
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I have never had a dealer or anyone ever change my oil! And I hate the fact of letting anyone touch my car including BMW! I am having my oil change done this Monday, I still have 6 months left on my factory warranty. This may be a crazy question, but how do I know they are really gonna change my oil? It's about at the 8000 mile mark since the last oil change, but a year has passed. They could just say they did, do a reset, but I would not really know, especially with no dipstick to check and see if the oil is new! I'd like to think a dealer, especially BMW, would be honorable, but I've had some nightmares with dealer service departments before!

Well, the oil condition sensor reading will substantially change. The signal is read and digitized in electronics at the base of the sensor; communicated to the DME [2E9F] and by CAN bus - should be able to document it.

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Call CSI

They come and check if there are other people finger prints on your engine
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I'm actually from New York City! Probably one of the places where the "Con" originated. Don't get me wrong, in not gonna sweat it, but I wouldn't put it past some repair shops. I've seen some of these tv shows where they go in with a hidden camera and catch these morons try and rip u a new A-Hole with problems that don't exist, and try and charge for repairs they never performed! With that said....we are talking about BMW, I'd like to think a very prestigious automobile company, and I honestly don't think they would do that! But I won't feel perfect till I'm doing my oil changes myself!
The obvious question. If you are concerned about it why not just do it yourself? It will not even take a 1/2 hour it even if you let it drain for awhile.
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usually oil is lighter color whenever i change it.
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Good grief...now you've made me paranoid.
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Put small dabs of nail polish on the drain bolt and filter housing before the service.
Lot of dealerships evacuate the old oil with a vacuum system. never loosening the bolt.
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Very well said! I have no idea why a dealer would fake an oil change? It's not worth it to them getting caught..
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Lot of dealerships evacuate the old oil with a vacuum system. never loosening the bolt.
Never heard of any dealers doing that. When it is done, though, isn't it done through a dipstick tube that doesn't exist on these cars?
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