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Old 10-10-2013, 09:02 PM
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Eagle F1's AS versus Michelin Pilot Sport AS3

Hi all, its time for new shoes on the 330xi. I live in Colorado and need a good all season tire that will perform well in dry conditions and moderate snow. I was gung ho on the Eagle F1's until I read a couple of reviews (32 to be exact, on 1010tiures.com, among others) that scared me--excessive road noise, ugly wear patterns, etc. These reviews come from a myriad of different vehicles, so it sometimes hard to root through everyones opinions.

Does anyone here have any insight on the Eagle F1 versus the Michy PS AS3's? I'm even considering the Nitto Motivo's. I'm worried I'll choose wrong and have to live with this rubber for a long time, so any insight would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 10-11-2013, 03:55 AM
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dont know about the specific Michelin tire, but I have always run michelin's and had great service out of them When I replace my tires Michelin will be going on my 335
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:23 AM
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:05 AM
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My son has Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 on order.

Review.

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Old 10-11-2013, 09:18 AM
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Excellent review. The fact is that we do not yet know how the PS A/S3 will be in the snow. Indications are that it will be a winner overall.

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Review. In case you didn't read this one.

http://tires.about.com/od/Tire_Revie...port-A-S-3.htm
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:44 PM
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:38 PM
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Excellent review. The fact is that we do not yet know how the PS A/S3 will be in the snow. Indications are that it will be a winner overall.
True! But I am mostly interested in wet weather traction. We get a lot of rain in the Pacific North West.

So am willing to give up a little traction in snow and on ice. Last year we did not even get any snow.
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True! But I am mostly interested in wet weather traction. We get a lot of rain in the Pacific North West.

So am willing to give up a little traction in snow and on ice. Last year we did not even get any snow.
I live in Portland, Oregon. I have Continental Extreme DWS on my Mercedes C320 (235/35/R19 fronts and 265/30/R19 rears) and they have far exceeded my expectations in the rain. Great grip and no hydro planing. I have Pirelli P-Zero Neros on my BMW (235/35/R19) right now - which have also worked great in the rain - but will likely switch to Conti's when they are done. America's Tire Company has deals all the time on them. Also, when they ask you if you want the full warranty, tell them you'll pay for two tires but they can throw in the other two. They've always agreed to that.


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Old 10-11-2013, 07:40 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the input on this. I've heard good things about the Contis as you mentioned, but my mechanic mentioned the Conti Extreme Contacts play hell with the AWD System. ??? Maybe he's being a little extreme? Anyone heard of this issue with ANY particular tire?

A primary mission for this xi is back and forth between Denver and Breckenridge. It can often be challenging weather, so the snow/rain performance is a particular consideration. Too bad of weather and its into the truck!

I'm going to read up on your rec's and other info, and advise when she's a done deal.

And, it always begs the question, dual sets?
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:57 PM
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Hi all, its time for new shoes on the 330xi. I live in Colorado and need a good all season tire that will perform well in dry conditions and moderate snow. I was gung ho on the Eagle F1's until I read a couple of reviews (32 to be exact, on 1010tiures.com, among others) that scared me--excessive road noise, ugly wear patterns, etc. These reviews come from a myriad of different vehicles, so it sometimes hard to root through everyones opinions.

Does anyone here have any insight on the Eagle F1 versus the Michy PS AS3's? I'm even considering the Nitto Motivo's. I'm worried I'll choose wrong and have to live with this rubber for a long time, so any insight would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Bruizzer
Taking a quick peek at the "Eagle F1" it appears to be a "unidirectional" tire. Unidirectional tires are 'passe' these days...for several reasons, one being that they tend to develop significant "tread pattern noise' as they wear. I would avoid them at all costs.

The tire industry has definitely moved towards 'assymetric' tread designs in the past decade...away from 'unidirectional' tread designs.

I don't know how much snow your part of CO gets, but I'd certainly be looking for the best "snow" rating for new tires according to TIRE RACK's rating system. Not all "A/S tires" rate very well.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:22 PM
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Taking a quick peek at the "Eagle F1" it appears to be a "unidirectional" tire. Unidirectional tires are 'passe' these days...for several reasons, one being that they tend to develop significant "tread pattern noise' as they wear. I would avoid them at all costs.

The tire industry has definitely moved towards 'assymetric' tread designs in the past decade...away from 'unidirectional' tread designs.

I don't know how much snow your part of CO gets, but I'd certainly be looking for the best "snow" rating for new tires according to TIRE RACK's rating system. Not all "A/S tires" rate very well.


Unidirectional and Aysmmetric are separate technologies. Directional refers to the tread needing to face one way to work correctly, asymmetric refers to the tread being different on the left side of the tire, compared to the right. Benefits include increased cornering capabilities in certain situations. You can have neither, one, or both in a tire.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:25 PM
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I dont know much about F1's but I do know the pilot A/s 3's have won top recommendations on tire rack and consumer reports in their recent tests. Seems to be a real winner.
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Old 10-12-2013, 06:47 AM
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I've owned the first-gen pilot a/s and loved them, as did my father. I feel they had the best dry weather grip of any all season I've owned. Michelin has consistently put out good tires over the years while goodyear has released some stinkers. If you want to stay safe I'd go with Michelin.
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:50 AM
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I have always had great experiences with Michelins and the runflats are far better than other brands I have experienced. I have Michelin PSS's on right now and they are great, so good I almost forget they are runflats most days!
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:19 AM
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I have always had great experiences with Michelins and the runflats are far better than other brands I have experienced. I have Michelin PSS's on right now and they are great, so good I almost forget they are runflats most days!
PSS runflats? Never heard of 'em so I had to look them up -- just released only for the new Corvette. Do you have PS2 runflats?
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:47 PM
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Well, she's a done deal--Based on all input, reviews, and local recommendations, I got 'er shod with a set of Pirelli Cinturato P7's. They felt really nice on the ride home--big upgrade from the well worn RFT's I had. The verdict will be out on winter performance for a bit, but they feel like a good choice thus far.

thx to all for input on this. I'll update after some weather-intense trips over the continental divide here in CO!
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:38 PM
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Well, she's a done deal--Based on all input, reviews, and local recommendations, I got 'er shod with a set of Pirelli Cinturato P7's.!
Great! Now remember it takes 200 to 300 miles to break in new tires.

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Well, she's a done deal--Based on all input, reviews, and local recommendations, I got 'er shod with a set of Pirelli Cinturato P7's. They felt really nice on the ride home--big upgrade from the well worn RFT's I had. The verdict will be out on winter performance for a bit, but they feel like a good choice thus far.

thx to all for input on this. I'll update after some weather-intense trips over the continental divide here in CO!
They'll do well in the moderate winter weather you spoke of in your first post. They will not impress you in weather intense trips over the Continential Divide though
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I had some of the F1's once, imho not a very good tire. I would not buy them again. I have Michelin Pilot and they are great tires. So much better than the Eagles it is a joke. N4S
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