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Old 10-21-2013, 04:52 PM
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BMW X5 Engine dies at the stop light

2001 BMW X5 3.0, 145K miles, generally runs good. Since last couple of weeks - when I leave home in the morning or work in the evening - it will die at the light or stop. Once engine is hot it won't happen again. I don't think it has anything to do with idling. I can be on stop sign for as long as I like and engine will continue to run, it's only when I try to move forward. No light lights up.

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Old 10-22-2013, 05:49 AM
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No light lights up... you mean the check engine light is not on? Do you know anything about the maintenance history? Most air/fuel/ignition related issues will throw a code. If this were mine, I'd start with the basics; pull the air cleaner assy, inspect the filter and clean the MAF (mass air flow unit). Inspect the intake boots, especially the little bellows/elbow that connects the lower boot to the ICV (idle control valve).
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:12 AM
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Thanks for your reply!

No light lights up... you mean the check engine light is not on? That's correct. I was expecting some light to turn up just before engine dies.

Do you know anything about the maintenance history? Most air/fuel/ignition related issues will throw a code. If this were mine, I'd start with the basics; pull the air cleaner assy, inspect the filter and clean the MAF (mass air flow unit). Inspect the intake boots, especially the little bellows/elbow that connects the lower boot to the ICV (idle control valve).

I took it to a local mechanic last week. He didn't see any fault code. He suspected camshaft sensor malfunction but since there is no fault code he couldn't assure me that changing it will fix it or not.
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:47 PM
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Cam position sensors almost always throw a code; I suspect your problem is elsewhere.

As mentioned, I'd inspect and clean a bunch of the intake tract (see comments above; also clean the ICV with carb cleaner). Could also be a bad/worn DISA. At that mileage, it's almost certainly shot. The DISA is the small rectangular box hanging off the side of the intake manifold. It has a flap in it that routes the intake charge based on throttle position. The bell crank on the flap wears out.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:24 AM
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Hello Scott - Thanks for your suggestions. I have dropped off my X5 to the mechanic with your suggestions. By the way I noticed this morning that engine RPM was a bit erratic for first few minutes. It was fluctuating between 500 and 1000. Once it stabilized X5 just ran fine. I probably didn't notice before because I didn't wait for that long in the car. I expected RPM to stay at higher speed when engine is still cold especially nowadays as temperature is around 45 degrees in the morning.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:04 PM
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BMW X5 Engine dies at the stop light

I had a similar problem of random stalling on my '03 3.0i, 146k miles, no codes thrown, a few months ago. Changed fuel filter, added injector cleaner and did other trouble shooting but it would still happen. Then one day I shut car off and it would not start. AAA came and jumped it but it would not stay running. Turned out the alternator failed, no battery light on dash! After having car towed to my mechanic, replaced alternator and stalling problem went away.


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Old 02-26-2014, 01:09 PM
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My E53 did it last night at a stop sign, no warning just shut off. No codes either. It did it twice today but started right back up. The one thing I noticed was the MPH meter on decel would act funny. Instead of sweeping back towards the left it would bounce back and forth. Mine has a 115K on it. Any help would be great


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Old 02-26-2014, 03:24 PM
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fuel pump?
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:11 PM
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did you ever get it figured out ?
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:15 PM
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It hasn't done it since, but yesterday it threw a trans safe mode. Highway driving was fine but in town it shifts hard. Going to get it check in the morning and see if the battery and alternator are good as well.


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Old 05-09-2014, 09:49 AM
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I had the same problem too. It would stall at a stop sign, I tried cleaning the ice but ended up replacing it. Now that issue is fixed, it sometimes stalls when coming to a stop or the worst was when I was turning left in traffic.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:41 PM
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Have 04 x5 3.0d-has had similar issues but on highway runs mainly.Only1 code when engine stopped(Fuel system injector...)didnt have time to read as was at 110k & looking to get off road.Restarted ok & no code.For remainder of 600k trip had surge problems off & on.Changed filter & problem seemed to go away-then has re appeared but random times.Old filter was 12mths old -cut open for inspection but no deposits.Have new pump on way & will consider relays also(behind dash & under bonnet).230k &no issues with excessive fuel use-have run injector cleaner.Last 7500k mixed town/highway has returned 28.7MPG-ANY THOUGHTS??

Running staggerd offset 19 s & thinking of a pair of rear wheels for the front(285/45/19 tyres on the large wheels.)has anyone tried this.Would be same F/R combo.
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Old 07-03-2016, 03:59 PM
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Hey Guys, any update on this thread? I have an 04 X3 with similar issues.. I have posted several original threads here and I have not found a solution. Car runs fine but sometimes as we hit the gas, it died... sometimes there is a slight sputter, sometimes it just turns off immediately. It always starts back up. No codes are thrown. I have had it so that it dies several times in a row as I press the gas to enter traffic on the main road. It mostly seems to happen as I am turning left. Most people say that is a power steering pump issue but if I try to get it to happen by pressing on the gas and turning left, I cannot do it on command. It seems like it is totally random. The only thing that seems mostly consistent is it seems to happen on hot days in the summer.
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Old 07-04-2016, 10:42 AM
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Hey Guys, any update on this thread? I have an 04 X3 with similar issues.. I have posted several original threads here and I have not found a solution. Car runs fine but sometimes as we hit the gas, it died... sometimes there is a slight sputter, sometimes it just turns off immediately. It always starts back up. No codes are thrown. I have had it so that it dies several times in a row as I press the gas to enter traffic on the main road. It mostly seems to happen as I am turning left. Most people say that is a power steering pump issue but if I try to get it to happen by pressing on the gas and turning left, I cannot do it on command. It seems like it is totally random. The only thing that seems mostly consistent is it seems to happen on hot days in the summer.
Check your DISA control unit and ICV.
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Old 07-05-2016, 04:31 PM
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OK guys, I have a little update. I was playing in a target parking lot yesterday to see if I could reproduce the issue. The whole turning left issue just never made much sense. What I was able to do is go from a dead stop, press the gas, and I would get a small hesitation. I could reproduce it every single time. There was a slight incline and I could reproduce the issue pointed up and down the incline. My point is, I think the issue is the hesitation and it exists always when starting from a dead stop. I think sometimes the hesitation is worse than other times. sometimes the hesitation is so big that it kills the engine completely. Most of the time, it is so small that we dont even realize it is there. But if I focus my attention when I begin pressing the gas, I notice it is there. So my question is, has anyone experienced this and is there something that is an obvious culprit?

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Old 07-05-2016, 06:57 PM
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OK guys, I have a little update. I was playing in a target parking lot yesterday to see if I could reproduce the issue. The whole turning left issue just never made much sense. What I was able to do is go from a dead stop, press the gas, and I would get a small hesitation. I could reproduce it every single time. There was a slight incline and I could reproduce the issue pointed up and down the incline. My point is, I think the issue is the hesitation and it exists always when starting from a dead stop. I think sometimes the hesitation is worse than other times. sometimes the hesitation is so big that it kills the engine completely. Most of the time, it is so small that we dont even realize it is there. But if I focus my attention when I begin pressing the gas, I notice it is there. So my question is, has anyone experienced this and is there something that is an obvious culprit?

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hesitation is not an unusual problem: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=247934
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:35 AM
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From your description sounds like the engine is not getting enough gas. You will need to connect a pressure gauge at the fuel rail and see what the pressure you have. Could be a fuel pump that is going bad or a clogged fuel filter.
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:42 AM
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did you say you did clean the mass air flow sensor? Mine did something like that and that fixed it for next to nothing
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Old 07-22-2016, 04:40 PM
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This could be any number of things honestly, very hard to diagnose via the internet. BUT, that being said the intake camshaft position sensor is notorious for failing on these cars in a very frustrating way. It will cause the car to stall at stop signs, parking lots and at slow speeds. Most of the time the car can start back up and you will drive for another few weeks before it happens again, with no check engine light or codes present. Eventually it will fail to the point where it throws a code and at that point it will be obvious. This happened in our 2002 325xi and my 2001 530i, and it's only a matter of time before it happens on our 2005 X5 3.0i.

I made a short video about it here:

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Old 07-26-2016, 07:07 PM
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Fantastic video. Well done. Thank you for that.... My question to you is did you notice this happening when you press the gas, or is it mostly when you are coasting at slow speeds or breaking to a stop?
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:15 PM
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Fantastic video. Well done. Thank you for that.... My question to you is did you notice this happening when you press the gas, or is it mostly when you are coasting at slow speeds or breaking to a stop?
Mostly coasting at slow speeds or coming to a stop light or stop sign. I would turn the car off, then back on and it would take a long time (3-4 seconds) of cranking to start to a poor idle. It would then have a weak acceleration and felt under powered.

With 145k miles on your car, is there any record of the intake cam sensor being replaced?
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:10 AM
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We purchased this car with 101k miles on it, and now it has 170k. I have not replaced that sensor so I am going to guess that it hasnt been replaced. It sounds like that is a different problem. My issue is almost always when I begin to press the gas. There is a slight hesitation most of the time, but sometimes the hesitation is so great, the car dies. usually it is the quick press of the gas, like when I need to make a left turn across traffic that it happens... that is when it gets scary....... I can confirm it isnt a power steering issue as I can produce that hesitation without turning.
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