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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 10-22-2013, 12:34 PM
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I have been doing some research on shocks since I have the 2006 530 with 125k miles and I am guessing original shocks, the car is like a bus and lots of wheel play on the highway.

I dont want to lower the car or raise it, sticking with stock rims for now, but I would like to stiffen it up, little damping, which bilstein shocks are good? B6 or B8? I can do research myself, but i would like to know personal opinions if you know someone that has them, and I am also thinking Koni, not looking to spend much, about 150-220 per shock

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Old 10-22-2013, 12:56 PM
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Have you replaced the uppercontrol arms yet? I'm told that make a big difference in like-new tight steering performance, since the bushing wears out well before 100K miles. Also, the tierods/balljoints must be pretty tired at 125K, as well.

Realistically, the stock steering is pretty tight, using Sachs. Not sure if Bilsteins would be all that much better than Sachs, if the rest of the system is worn. Not saying they don't need replacement (at 125 I'm sure they do), it's just that other parts have more effect on tight steering than the shocks alone.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:13 PM
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I have '06 530i with 135K miles with all original suspension parts EXCEPT new control arm bushings and the car drives perfect with Continental DWS tires.
While the shocks and struts on the car seem to be in excellent condition, I will plan to replace both shocks and struts in the near future as a preventive maintenance.
I am leaning towards sticking with Sachs (stay with OEM).
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:24 PM
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I have '06 530i with 135K miles with all original suspension parts EXCEPT new control arm bushings and the car drives perfect with Continental DWS tires.
While the shocks and struts on the car seem to be in excellent condition, I will plan to replace both shocks and struts in the near future as a preventive maintenance.
I am leaning towards sticking with Sachs (stay with OEM).
Yeah, control arms are my fix when I'm up at my summer place next year. Probably use the Lemforders, since it's inconvenient to have the bushings pressed in up there ,and I can do the Lemforders in the driveway. Did they make a big difference? When did you have the bushings done?
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:36 PM
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Have you replaced the uppercontrol arms yet? I'm told that make a big difference in like-new tight steering performance, since the bushing wears out well before 100K miles. Also, the tierods/balljoints must be pretty tired at 125K, as well.

Realistically, the stock steering is pretty tight, using Sachs. Not sure if Bilsteins would be all that much better than Sachs, if the rest of the system is worn. Not saying they don't need replacement (at 125 I'm sure they do), it's just that other parts have more effect on tight steering than the shocks alone.
thank you i will keep that in mind, i really want to get rid of the steering wheel play on highway, good half inch dead zone, also handles like a bus, at turns it feels like its gonna flip, and i know bmws arent made like this, so i am exploring options, thank you this really helps
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:38 PM
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I have '06 530i with 135K miles with all original suspension parts EXCEPT new control arm bushings and the car drives perfect with Continental DWS tires.
While the shocks and struts on the car seem to be in excellent condition, I will plan to replace both shocks and struts in the near future as a preventive maintenance.
I am leaning towards sticking with Sachs (stay with OEM).
nice, same cars , do you have dead zone; free play on the steering wheel while driving on highway? i have about half inch or more of just dead steering, no response, also when i turn it feels like school bus with firestone , some hard performance tires came with,
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:06 AM
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thank you i will keep that in mind, i really want to get rid of the steering wheel play on highway, good half inch dead zone, also handles like a bus, at turns it feels like its gonna flip, and i know bmws arent made like this, so i am exploring options, thank you this really helps
If you've got free play I'd definitely have an indy look at your front end and steering components, as soon as possible. Saving a few bucks isn't worth being in a car that suddenly tries to hump the nearest tree....
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:18 AM
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If you've got free play I'd definitely have an indy look at your front end and steering components, as soon as possible. Saving a few bucks isn't worth being in a car that suddenly tries to hump the nearest tree....
ill get the inspection asap, and keep this thread updated on what they say for future searchers, also according to otto from bavauto they said its tie rods that wear out, who knows
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:29 AM
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ill get the inspection asap, and keep this thread updated on what they say for future searchers, also according to otto from bavauto they said its tie rods that wear out, who knows
You can check the tie-rod-ends - lift up the front end [if possible, get the car on ramps] and try to twist/rotate the tie-rod-ends where it connects to the hub. If you can move it easily with hand, then you will need to figure out if the outer ends are bad OR the inner tie rod is loose. While tie-rod-ends are generally maintenance item, surprisingly, they are in excellent shape even at 135K miles on my car. I suppose the quality of roads makes a big difference in the longevity of the suspension parts.
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The dead spot in the middle of wheel turn bugs me. If there was that much free play in his tierods, I'd think he'd hear it, etc. Perhaps a bad steering rack? Problem with steering wheel components? Dunno, but definitely needs to be examined, in any case.

I always told my kid that if tires, brakes and steering are OK, even a otherwise ****box is unlikely to kill him (as he drives his rusty ****box '95 Volvo 850 around...). I made sure that at least these three items were good
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:19 PM
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The dead spot in the middle of wheel turn bugs me. If there was that much free play in his tierods, I'd think he'd hear it, etc. Perhaps a bad steering rack? Problem with steering wheel components? Dunno, but definitely needs to be examined, in any case.

I always told my kid that if tires, brakes and steering are OK, even a otherwise ****box is unlikely to kill him (as he drives his rusty ****box '95 Volvo 850 around...). I made sure that at least these three items were good
Lol that's true. No there isn't any metal to metal clinging noise over bumps. Quiet. I had A6 before with bad rods every turn and bump you heard it block away. I'm sure something is wrong with my e60 I don't think they made like this. I had a brand new focus for company car and sux to say but that thing handled like on rails. I can deal with my dead zone but I def gate how it handles. Like a f'ing bus. I have to tell my wife all the time to watch them corners. Embarrassing :/


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Old 10-23-2013, 03:22 PM
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Also. Forgot to mention. When on a bad patch of road with bumps. My car is all over the place. Hard to keep in straight line. And on smooth surface there is a minor micro vibration to the wheel.


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Old 10-24-2013, 07:10 PM
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Also. Forgot to mention. When on a bad patch of road with bumps. My car is all over the place. Hard to keep in straight line. And on smooth surface there is a minor micro vibration to the wheel.


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Well, time to get it fixed. Be a shame to get someone killed over a $K worth of repairs.

Let us know how it works out.

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Old 10-24-2013, 07:55 PM
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Well, time to get it fixed. Be a shame to get someone killed over a $K worth of repairs.

Let us know how it works out.

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Lol it's not That severe will keep it posted.


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Old 11-12-2013, 06:01 PM
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Update. Just had the entire front end looked at for few hours. And am told that all control arms and tie rods along with bushings look great. Also told me the soft turns and free play could be type V run flats I have on. Now I gotta worry about my coolant leaking badly. Yay.


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