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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 10-23-2013, 04:57 PM
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Tire Variations

I've noticed that the current M3 has a few different tire models... some have continental OEM some Pirelli and some Michelin. My 2011 M3 convertible w/19 wheels came with the Pirelli PZero tires. I was very impressed at first with performance of tire. However I think i was just impressed with the M3 over my previous car...now that i have about 20K miles i have noticed my Pirellis to be soft and they aren't wearing well. The back tires were bald by 20K miles. Just yesterday the rear driver tire came apart. This has never happened to me. I probably need an alignment, but my car doesn't pull on roads or drift, its tracks very straight.

In desperate need of a replacement tire i found someone on craigslist who had (1) 265/35/19 Michelin pilot ps2 tire (OEM M3) for $70 bucks... i mounted that one tire in place of the severely worn rear driver tire and i have noticed such a difference with ride with just one Michelin tire mounted.

What is the preferred OEM tire for 19 inch wheels? I am leaning toward Michelin PS2 your thoughts???
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:03 PM
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first of all, wow how on earth did you last 20k with those pzeros?? mine lasted 7k miles and i think thats really the average, especially on the rear tires.

the tire of choice is the mich super sport. no brainer there. for the love of god do not expect 20k out of them though. maybe 12k
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:07 PM
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first of all, wow how on earth did you last 20k with those pzeros?? mine lasted 7k miles and i think thats really the average, especially on the rear tires.

the tire of choice is the mich super sport. no brainer there. for the love of god do not expect 20k out of them though. maybe 12k
7k? wow that seems really low... Why are there 3 variations? and what is the deal with the PZeros? are they just horrible? What is BMW's logic using them ?
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:15 PM
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10k-12k is probably pushing the maximum.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:18 PM
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10k-12k is probably pushing the maximum.
Thanks... guess I should pick up (3) Michelin PS2's NOW!
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:52 PM
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The current issue of Consumer Reports talks about high performance tires - the Michelin PS, PS2, and Pirelli p-zeros. As I recall, all rank pretty highly. I think it said the p-zeros and the ps2's were summer only tires while the PS is all season.
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ps2 I think its well documented how I drive (tuned tranny 5+ power, sport plus everything) and I got 15k out of them before I started to notice MINOR slipping
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:46 PM
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My 2011 E90 M3 came with Conti's. I'm just to the point now of needing rears, and the fronts still have a decent amount of wear remaining, and I have 15k miles on them, including 12hrs of BMWCCA HPDE track time (Mid-Ohio, Putnam Park).

Fairly good traction wet and dry, and very predictable. Still, I'll probably go with PSS next time, and I may try to pack 275 series on the front and back ... thoughts about that fitment?
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:37 AM
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My 2011 E90 M3 came with Conti's. I'm just to the point now of needing rears, and the fronts still have a decent amount of wear remaining, and I have 15k miles on them, including 12hrs of BMWCCA HPDE track time (Mid-Ohio, Putnam Park).

Fairly good traction wet and dry, and very predictable. Still, I'll probably go with PSS next time, and I may try to pack 275 series on the front and back ... thoughts about that fitment?
i have similar question. on ZCP i am wondering what i can fit around
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:07 AM
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OP, while I have the Conti's, when the time comes for replacement, I will opt for the Michelin Pilot SS's. Less expensive vs. PS2's and better rated. Per the Tire Rack's website, $247 per front and $297 per rear. I would not recommend mixing types (PSS and PS2).
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:52 AM
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I ditched the Contis as soon as I picked up my car and went with PSS. Huge improvement in comfort and road noise.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:57 AM
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I ditched the Contis as soon as I picked up my car and went with PSS. Huge improvement in comfort and road noise.
I may do that as well but wait until Spring. Within the next week or two my car will be going into storage.
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I was thinking of the going with SS versus PS2... other than being more quiet on road and having better rating from TR... What is the reason why PS2's are more expensive?? Additionally i am looking for feedback on the Pzero's... i didn't have an issue with them until my back tire shredded...
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i have similar question. on ZCP i am wondering what i can fit around
I'll tell you in March.

I'm going with the 275/30/19 in front, and 275/35/19 rear.

I also have ZCP.
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:44 AM
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I was thinking of the going with SS versus PS2... other than being more quiet on road and having better rating from TR... What is the reason why PS2's are more expensive?? Additionally i am looking for feedback on the Pzero's... i didn't have an issue with them until my back tire shredded...
i really liked my zeros but they just didn't last. the SS are fantastic. no complaints. may be trying out the potenza in the spring bc i think I'm going to go to the GTS sizes and SS don't come in them (255/35, 285/30)
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10k-12k is probably pushing the maximum.
I put 15k on my pss
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:27 AM
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I put 15k on my pss
PSS is a different breed of tire for sure. The treadwear numbers and the stickiness feel like they're in contradiction of each other. Some crazy tire voodoo they have going on at Michelin.
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