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Old 10-24-2013, 02:34 PM
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Convertible top rubber looks off

Picked up my E93 last week on re delivery. Earlier this week I noticed the rubber at the joint at the top of the rear window looked odd on the passenger side. What do you guys think, should I bring it in or is this normal. Don't want my first visit to the service department to make me look like a crazy OCD owner.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:41 PM
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Not the best pics in the world to really show much but what I see is a really scuffed pass side vs drivers side. Is that what you are referring to? If that looks scuffed in good light I would be showing a SA and asking for replacement.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:46 PM
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Convertible top rubber looks off

Hello, yes, it does look like scuffing. It was hard to take a picture of. Thanks, I'll make an appt to get it checked out.


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Old 11-16-2013, 07:13 AM
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Convertible top rubber looks off

So, dealer removed the 'excess adhesive'. They also scratched the car in the process and then did a half ass job 'color sanding' it out (scratches reappeared two weeks later). I'll get it properly detailed and corrected on my own.

However, I'm now seeing this 'excessive adhesive' all around the roof seals. I would prefer not to bring it back to the dealer and just have my detailer take care of it, but I wanted to check to see if this may be an issue or is normal with a new E93. My dealer claimed it was 'normal but excessive' when they corrected the first spot. I just want to make sure it's documented if this could be a sign of issues down the road. Anyone else have this on their E93?

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Old 11-16-2013, 04:23 PM
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:18 PM
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If I still lived in jersey I'd probably take your advice. And if I had to drive the parkway I wouldn't have gotten an ///M.


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However, I'm now seeing this 'excessive adhesive' all around the roof seals. I would prefer not to bring it back to the dealer and just have my detailer take care of it, but I wanted to check to see if this may be an issue or is normal with a new E93. My dealer claimed it was 'normal but excessive' when they corrected the first spot. I just want to make sure it's documented if this could be a sign of issues down the road. Anyone else have this on their E93?

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Hi Imjoet,

Lucky you, M3-E93!!

To my eye, no-- all that adhesive doesn't look normal at all. Did you have leakage issues with the car? I've tried to replicate some of your photos with my E93, but to be honest, my seal areas exhibit absolutely no extra adhesive oozing out anywhere. Forgive the dirty/dustiness of the car - tomorrow is bath day, and the areas where it's clear it's time for a fresh detail. I've attached some pics trying to get different vantage points of the areas similar to yours where the seals attach to the top structure.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:00 PM
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Convertible top rubber looks off

Hi Kat,

Thanks for weighing in as the resident vert guru. I haven't had any leakage issues but then again the car hasn't seen rain and has been through just 3 washes (ED drop off, redelivery and yesterday). The dealer said this could be due to heat (but it's been pretty mild since I've got the car, not above 90) and I was hoping someone else here had encountered this goo. I guess I'm back to the dealer and hoping they keep their tools off the paint this time.

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I can only speak for my E93 and a few others I see at the BMW chapter. I have never seen that build up and I would speculate that was something happened in port or before you got it back from ED. That is a really poor job of sealing the rubber gasket. Not what is expected for a ride this new.
This might be a case where you are better off doing this yourself if your dealer is attending to your E93 saying this is normal. I would hazzard to guess if you look at other E93's at the dealers around your area you will not see this build up...
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:31 PM
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That excessive adhesive is definitely not normal and your dealership guys are just BS-ing you. If only BMW had customer service as good as their cars!
On an unrelated note, currently dealing with my dealer for a tear on my side bolster on the driving seat's left side. When i first took that for repair in warranty, i was told the seat back was replaced! Now that i am out of warranty and I took it back and asked to cover it under the 2 year parts and labour guarantee (BMW canada), the guy says seat back was never replaced! Discussing the issue with BMW Canada and hoping for a positive out come!
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is your car brand new or used is my first question?. Second if you look at the parts books, for replacing the rubbers roof seals there is also a Buty tape kit that you purchase with the seals, I would assume that excessive oozing of material is the buty tape, I would guess that the buty tape goes between the rubber seal and the metal of the roof. Kind of like a sealing tape strip that keeps water out and the rubber seals in place and It doesnt get Hard, it should stay flexible. this is all speculation because I have searched High and low and even the Bently Manual covers nothing about replacing those seals. I would think you could use a hard plastic paint scraper and gently remove some of the excess buty tape in the areas that its has oozed out. I would be very careful, if you remove too much it could start leaking

If that car is brand new from the dealer, I should not have passed any kind of inspection in my opinion and let out the door like thas, IF its is used, could be they replace all the rubber seals cause it was leaking and over did the buty tape in areas
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:39 AM
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is your car brand new or used is my first question?.
Thanks for the helpful info regarding parts/manual.

Yes, the car is new. I picked it up via ED in July and redelivery was in October. Under 3000 miles to date.

I'll bring to the dealer again primarily so it is properly documented. Hopefully I can get it in before my scheduled detail/paint correction in case there are any more accidents at the dealer. Wish me luck.
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