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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 11-25-2013, 02:26 AM
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Is there a way to change the trans fluid and transfer case fluid on a 2010 535I xdrive?
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:15 AM
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Is there a way to change the trans fluid and transfer case fluid on a 2010 535I xdrive?
http://forums.5series.net/e61-tourin...-diffs-128957/

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E60-535....0l/ES2515438/

I have not done this myself, but here's a couple of descriptions to start with.

googled "transfer case fluid e60 535xi"
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:29 AM
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http://forums.5series.net/e61-tourin...-diffs-128957/

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E60-535....0l/ES2515438/

I have not done this myself, but here's a couple of descriptions to start with.

googled "transfer case fluid e60 535xi"
I think I heard the 2010 is different, sealed tranny and sealed diff...... Can anyone confirm or debunk?
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:56 PM
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I think I heard the 2010 is different, sealed tranny and sealed diff...... Can anyone confirm or debunk?
Debunk.

ZF makes the trannys, and they expect fluid changes every 50K miles or so.

The differentials lately did not come with a drain plug, but they do have a fill plug. The fluid is sucked out with a hand pump. Stupid way for BMW to do things, but no, it is not sealed.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:04 AM
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I read the PDF, and very grateful to all that contributed!!

FWIW, in reference to the transmisions, I have some time in on these with the Jaguar's I'm used to.
In '03, Jaguar started using the HP26 with a plastic pan. These are the ones known known to crack, and to seep from the mechatronics sleeve. I have had some customers with a 'replace tranny' diagnosis due to the 'gearbox fault' light on the dash, and I've found if it's caught early, the first step in my diagnosis is adding +/- 3 liters of fluid, and then driving the car again. It USUALLY reverts to driving normally, and in those cases, I've swapped the pan/filter, changed the sleeve and of course fluid, and all has been well.
I don't know all the variations of the transmissions used in the BMW's, and I do know that reasons unknown the same trans used in different cars doesn't necessarily fall victim to the same problems - ALL XJ8/XK8's that used the 5HP24 have, or will have, a front drum failure, yet in the Rovers I hardly ever hear of that - but to the extent it helps someone, re: the HP26, there it is.
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:46 AM
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I read the PDF, and very grateful to all that contributed!!

FWIW, in reference to the transmisions, I have some time in on these with the Jaguar's I'm used to.
In '03, Jaguar started using the HP26 with a plastic pan. These are the ones known known to crack, and to seep from the mechatronics sleeve. I have had some customers with a 'replace tranny' diagnosis due to the 'gearbox fault' light on the dash, and I've found if it's caught early, the first step in my diagnosis is adding +/- 3 liters of fluid, and then driving the car again. It USUALLY reverts to driving normally, and in those cases, I've swapped the pan/filter, changed the sleeve and of course fluid, and all has been well.
I don't know all the variations of the transmissions used in the BMW's, and I do know that reasons unknown the same trans used in different cars doesn't necessarily fall victim to the same problems - ALL XJ8/XK8's that used the 5HP24 have, or will have, a front drum failure, yet in the Rovers I hardly ever hear of that - but to the extent it helps someone, re: the HP26, there it is.
Good info, thanks. My next car after this one is likely to be an XK (2009-2011 likely), and I'll come back to you for your opinions on the car in question. Though I love BMW's, I've always wanted an XK. The XKR is likely overkill for me.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:51 PM
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Good info, thanks. My next car after this one is likely to be an XK (2009-2011 likely), and I'll come back to you for your opinions on the car in question. Though I love BMW's, I've always wanted an XK. The XKR is likely overkill for me.
Actually don't know much about the later ones, but since the engines are an evolution of the earlier 4.0, with the bugs worked out, that part should be fine. Not hearing much on the later cars in terms of issues.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:53 PM
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Thank you for the info. Very informative and helps be gauge what Im getting into. I've been reading on a common issue with the diversity antenna as well - as well as mine - 2008 535xi wagon 88k mi. comfort access and all buttons on key went kaput a couple days ago - and learning that its been a common problem for the E61/E61. head scratcher...
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:17 AM
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2 days ago I sold my e30 and bought an 05 545i with 90k miles. This will definitely be a great tool for me, it's people like you that make people like me appreciate these cars more



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OP: Kudus! It has been a while since I visited and really surprised at your doc. Darn good job, I say.
Looks like you also got some very good assist from Legend and others. Good folks all!
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OP: Kudus! It has been a while since I visited and really surprised at your doc. Darn good job, I say.
Looks like you also got some very good assist from Legend and others. Good folks all!
Thanks -- it's helping out a lot of people. Any ideas or updates, let me know.

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thank you for putting this together.
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thanks for great info
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:32 PM
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Wow, what a tremendous help this is.

Okay, so I own a Nov 2006 build 2007 530xi Wagon, currently with 195,000 KMS. Canada.

Most of my problems are either front end or electrical.

Control arms changed twice, on CPO.

The real problems were:

PDC crapped out in year 4. I had to spend about $600 to replace that harness, which wasn't on CPO.

At about 130,000kms the harnesses going to hatch failed. Several thousand dollars worth of labor for $100 in parts.

The Diversity Antenna failed and needed replacing, wasn't covered on warranty.

The rear wiper binder failed, still not fixed although it's an ongoing project.

The little button to open the rear window has failed and I can't change it until I unbind the rear wiper bracket. Hum.

I have changed the battery twice. I didn't have it programmed the first time. Regrettably. Get it programmed, even if you change it yourself!

Wiper blades....$105!!!

Brakes, twice.

I just replaced the front coils. The left one broke and I got a flat tire. (new front snow tires necessary). Oh, the car drives like a dream with the new coils. I have been complaining about the suspension for about a year now! Doh!

When I replaced the brakes most recently they told me the DSC module is busted, but I haven't replaced it yet because I don't believe the dealer. The "Change Brake Pads" Warning is till on, and can't be reset.

Your wonderful document is excellent, thank you very much for posting it.

It's the most ergonomically perfect car I have ever owned. It pretty much drives itself for the 120 kms I drive daily. The rear seat heaters are a joy for my daughters and the steering wheel heater is a joy when I'm done cross-country skiing in -20C.

the engine is sublime, as is the Auto Transmission. I will get the fluid changed!

My water pump hasn't gone yet, should I do that asap?

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Old 01-14-2014, 08:30 AM
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Stewart,

Though there is no way to tell if your pump is reaching EoL, the Pierburgs of the age range of your car have been problematic, with complaints of failure and replacement greater than many other E60 modules.

If you don't want to replace it preventatively, watch for temperature variations or transitional codes via a bmw compatible code reader. INPA, BMWhat and so forth.

I usually attach INPA once a month or so and see if any codes have been logged in memory, just as I'd check the air pressure, etc.

Good luck.
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Thank you banglenot. Looks like a code reader might be of help to me if I plan on keeping this car!

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Though there is no way to tell if your pump is reaching EoL, the Pierburgs of the age range of your car have been problematic, with complaints of failure and replacement greater than many other E60 modules.

If you don't want to replace it preventatively, watch for temperature variations or transitional codes via a bmw compatible code reader. INPA, BMWhat and so forth.

I usually attach INPA once a month or so and see if any codes have been logged in memory, just as I'd check the air pressure, etc.

Good luck.
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Old 01-14-2014, 08:47 AM
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One more thing, I changed my DMTL pump two weeks ago, by myself. It was easy. My service tech at the dealer kindly reset the CEL for me (for free!)and it hasn't come back on. Very pleased with myself!
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One more thing, I changed my DMTL pump two weeks ago, by myself. It was easy. My service tech at the dealer kindly reset the CEL for me (for free!)and it hasn't come back on. Very pleased with myself!
Good news. If more people understood that with the right tools these cars are no different to DIY as any other car out there, the Dealers would starve.
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One more thing, I changed my DMTL pump two weeks ago, by myself. It was easy. My service tech at the dealer kindly reset the CEL for me (for free!)and it hasn't come back on. Very pleased with myself!
Good news. If more people understood that with the right tools these cars are no different to DIY as any other car out there, the Dealers would starve.
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Good news. If more people understood that with the right tools these cars are no different to DIY as any other car out there, the Dealers would starve.
Indeed.

If only more people didn't think that you have to go to the dealer even to have your oil changed on BMW's...
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Steering Angle Sensor Cleanup

Thanks for putting this together.

Probably Steering Angle Sensor Cleanup can also be added to the list. I have seen lot of people getting this error including myself. If you google "Steering Angle Sensor diy .02" the first 2 links would be helpful. I used the m5 forum one and it worked.
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Thanks for putting this together.

Probably Steering Angle Sensor Cleanup can also be added to the list. I have seen lot of people getting this error including myself. If you google "Steering Angle Sensor diy .02" the first 2 links would be helpful. I used the m5 forum one and it worked.
Good idea. Seeing enough of it to make it worthwhile
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:26 AM
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Great Reference Tool - Thanks

I bought a 2008 550 a little over a year ago and now has 72k miles. Your document is right on the mark on many items.
Happy to share my repair experiences so far if your interested.
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