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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 11-01-2013, 08:54 AM
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So I have been thinking about buying a M3 with the DCT.Has anybody tracked a car for say twenty minutes with one of these gear boxes?I was just wondering if they could take the abuse and not overheat, like the GTR I had the pleasure to ride in.Are the transmissions in a 335i and the M3 the same?

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Old 11-01-2013, 09:25 AM
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yes of course they can take the abuse.

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Old 11-01-2013, 11:54 AM
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You shouldn't have a problem. The thing you do need to worry about is the brakes. They'll become mush after a a couple laps.
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Old 11-01-2013, 06:39 PM
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So I have been thinking about buying a M3 with the DCT.Has anybody tracked a car for say twenty minutes with one of these gear boxes?I was just wondering if they could take the abuse and not overheat, like the GTR I had the pleasure to ride in.Are the transmissions in a 335i and the M3 the same?

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The DCT transmission is made for it. The transmission in the 335is and the M3 are the same, however, in the M3 the box has more modes.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:06 AM
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DCTs are what they use at the M School at the Performance Center in SC. They hold up better than the stick shift from what I heard. VERY FAST, BLINDINGLY FAST, DCTs are.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:24 AM
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Thanks for the info.I will definitely be going with the DCT then.Now comes the hard part.Choosing between a M3 or a 335is.

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Old 11-02-2013, 09:32 AM
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Thanks for the info.I will definitely be going with the DCT then.Now comes the hard part.Choosing between a M3 or a 335is.
This should have been the easy part.
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I have a GTR and an M3 DCT. Both are heavy and fast cars. Brakes will be challenged on a track. Upgrade the brakes and you are fine. The earlier GTR 2009 and 2010 have had transmission over heating problems. You would be fine with the 2012 ], 2013, 2014 and 2015 GTR.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:23 PM
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Lime Rock Park uses M3s with DCT as pace cars and the Drivers Club members use them for track days. The cars are used for hot laps and are driven very hard.
There have been no issues with the transmissions.

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Old 11-03-2013, 06:07 AM
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You shouldn't have a problem. The thing you do need to worry about is the brakes. They'll become mush after a a couple laps.
I agree. M car brakes are really made for the street. Track duty requires the obvious modifications to accommodate track duty.


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Lime Rock Park uses M3s with DCT as pace cars and the Drivers Club members use them for track days. The cars are used for hot laps and are driven very hard.
There have been no issues with the transmissions.

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Old 11-03-2013, 02:10 PM
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Thanks for all the impute. I found a 2010 M3 with 34.000 miles. Will go check it out the first of the week. Looking forward to driving something new.

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Old 11-03-2013, 03:36 PM
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You shouldn't have a problem. The thing you do need to worry about is the brakes. They'll become mush after a a couple laps.
Just curious - have you tracked your M3? Have you run into problems with your brakes? While I agree the brakes get hot, and the pads are insufficient for the track because they start depositing too much pad material, I've never experienced significant fade, nor have I spoken with any others at the track who have experienced it.

Due to the pad deposition/pulsing, I have switched to running PF08 pads on the track, so I agree the brake PADS aren't really up to the task of track use.

I plan to add some ducting in the spring, to cool the rotors, just hoping to extend their life and that of the pads, not due to any expectation of improved stopping during my HPDE driving.
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I just got back with this beauty Saturday. Still have a lot to learn about the car itself, but looking forward to driving again. Thanks for the warm welcome to the Forums.Will get some pictures into my garage once I get the car cleaned up.

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Congrats on the purchase, you're going to love it. As far as the DCT, I had 10 track days on mine at Lime Rock and one day at the Glen and I had no issues with overheating. There were two days at LRP where the temps got into the high 90s and I still had no issues.

As for the comments regarding the brakes, I never had any problem with fading. Just upgrade the pads, lines and fluid and you'll be fine.
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