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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 11-12-2013, 03:50 AM
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Heated steering wheel not working properly?

With the warranty running out on my 2010 X5, I will talk to my SA about the heated steering wheel not warming up properly. I noticed it already last winter, but thought it was battery related and was hoping it would be better after battery change. Nope.

It isn't warm where it matters around 9-10 am and 2-3 pm positions. It's warmest at the 6 o'clock position, the rest of the steering wheel gets luke warm or worse. It hasn't been cold enough in Atlanta to see if it gets warmer when it is colder.

Anybody else have an issue with this? Last winter when I mentioned this to the dealer, he said it is normal. No it isn't as the steering wheel in my 2012 gets so hot after awhile that I have to turn the heat off, otherwise it gets uncomfortably hot.
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:37 AM
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I'm thinking I might have an issue with mine as well. It does get slightly warm all over, but recently I had a loaner X3 and the wheel on that got very warm in only a short time. In fact it was too warm. I had to turn it off after a short while. My X5's wheel certainly does not perform like that.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:59 AM
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It's hard to compare technology from 2010 to 2012. You both didn't realize there could be a problem until you drove something newer. It could be the same exact setup, or it could have been improved. Maybe someone with the same years can share their experience??
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:26 AM
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It's hard to compare technology from 2010 to 2012. You both didn't realize there could be a problem until you drove something newer. It could be the same exact setup, or it could have been improved. Maybe someone with the same years can share their experience??
I would go with this scenario... My 2007 5 series had crappy low heated steering wheel while my 2010 5 series ( LCI version ) had excellent heated steering wheel..

My current 2013 X5 heated steering wheel while its fine and does the job, the heat was more intense on the LCI 5 series..

I have not been able to test any newer BMW's ( F chassis ) to compare.. .. Sorry for not much help..
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:14 AM
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Glad I am not alone with this issue. I'll update the thread once I talk to my advisor later this week. It should be cold enough in Atlanta to have my SA test this himself.
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:12 PM
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My 2010 has uneven heat too.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:12 AM
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Update: Of course, the dealer said it was normal operation, nothing done.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:47 AM
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I am not sure if it is 'normal operation' for it to not heat as well over time, but my point to the dealer would be that it wasn't always like this and something stopped working. I don't think the heated steering wheel is classified as a wearing part over time.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:13 AM
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I have a small hand held thermometer with two remote thermocouples....

I'd attach these to the wheel, and do a series of tests: start temps, then every 30 seconds out to 15 minutes or when it stabilizes. Let cool, repeat. Collect data from around the wheel.

Then when you return you can document what you are trying to say with words- indeed, the SA may thank you and say "yeah, that hard data made it easier to just replace it" You have to convince the SA,. then the mechanic, and then the BMWNA warranty department.....hard to say which one doesnt believe you in this case.

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Old 12-10-2013, 09:12 AM
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As we are having almost proper winter temperatures in California, I noticed that I have similar issue – the steering wheel has uneven heat and it does not get warm enough.

I think I will invest in thermometer ard is referring to…. otherwise it will be waste of time to discuss this with SA

Does anybody have reference temperatures of the heated steering wheel which is working properly?
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:48 AM
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Wouldn't it be easier to use something like this?
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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-Non...R001/100674438
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Great idea! Let's see if I can get my hands on one.
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I've noticed that it is very hit-or-miss. Sometimes it gets hot, sometimes it's just warm to the touch. Am I missing something here?

the heated wheel on my Q7 got quite warm.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:54 AM
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Mines works perfectly every time.heats up evenly and not too hot.
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Old 12-11-2013, 03:10 PM
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Took TinyRK's advice and used an infrared temperature reader on the steering wheels on both the 10' and the 12' X5. It was relatively chilly this morning in Atlanta +32 F, so it was good time to test. It was a bit tricky to test the wheel as the temperature varies quite a bit depending where you measure it. Decided to measure where the palm of your hand rests as that seemed to be the warmest point.

On the 2010 X5, the starting temperature was 42 F sitting in the garage. After three minutes it was ranging from 69-71 F (12 and 6 o'clock) to 81-83 F (8-10 and 2-4 o'clock positions). After 8 minutes the 12 and 6 o'clock temperatures remained the same at 69-71, while the 4 and 8 o'clock had dropped to 74 and 78 F, respectively. The 2 and 10 o'clock had increased a bit to 82 and 84 F. After 18 minutes, the 12 and 6 o'clock remained at around 70 F. However, the 2-4 and 8-10 o'clock temperatures had dropped to 72-75 F. Everywhere else on the steering wheel, the temperatures were around 60 F.

On the 2012 X5, the starting temperature was 47 F (later in the day). After about 10 minutes the steering wheel had reached a temperature of 111-114 F and felt warm throughout. It actually got so warm, that I decided to shut it off and stop the testing.

In conclusion, the 2010 steering wheel warms up, but unevenly. It also appears that the temperature is regulated as it dropped after a while. The steering wheel on the 2012 on the other hand got very warm, about 30 F warmer than on the 2010 and became uncomfortably hot after a while, so had to shut it off.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:48 AM
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The two times I have used my wife's wheel heater, I shut it off as soon as it got warm because it does get too hot. Maybe BMW drivers are supposed to wear gloves?
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:17 AM
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Even all the way around on my 2012. My 07 5 series can be a little uneven but overall it isn't nearly like what your describing. in fact, I almost feel like that wheel 'out warms' my X5.


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Old 12-18-2013, 10:11 AM
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I've noticed this too and thought it had more to do with either the onboard computer calculating inside or outside temperatures thus making it hotter or simply warm depending on one or another.
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Re: Heated steering wheel not working properly?

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I've noticed this too and thought it had more to do with either the onboard computer calculating inside or outside temperatures thus making it hotter or simply warm depending on one or another.
I'm guessing this is it. On my old Audi Q7, I couldn't control the heated mirrors directly. The climate control automatically defrosted and defogged them depending on the test.

I'm sure this is similar. It would be nice to have "levels" like the seats.

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funny I just noticed this thread and was thinking alone similar lines, my older"" BMW's such as the 2 3series, and 2007 5--I have all pre 2005 have heats and steering wheel that: a) heats fast , b) heats HOT while my newer BMW's 2012--2014 seem to take a long time to heat, heat kinda uneven, and warm at best. I presume it's just lesser quality heating elements the similar vehicles I tested at dealer were all same as mine It works , I can live with it... shrugs
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Heated steering wheel not working properly?

It's probably because somebody complained or sued BMW saying the steering wheel got too hot. Since putting a warning label right on the steering wheel is a bot too weird now we have to suffer and accept crappy heating elements, all thanks to a bunch of whiners.


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Took TinyRK's advice and used an infrared temperature reader on the steering wheels on both the 10' and the 12' X5. It was relatively chilly this morning in Atlanta +32 F, so it was good time to test. It was a bit tricky to test the wheel as the temperature varies quite a bit depending where you measure it. Decided to measure where the palm of your hand rests as that seemed to be the warmest point.

On the 2010 X5, the starting temperature was 42 F sitting in the garage. After three minutes it was ranging from 69-71 F (12 and 6 o'clock) to 81-83 F (8-10 and 2-4 o'clock positions). After 8 minutes the 12 and 6 o'clock temperatures remained the same at 69-71, while the 4 and 8 o'clock had dropped to 74 and 78 F, respectively. The 2 and 10 o'clock had increased a bit to 82 and 84 F. After 18 minutes, the 12 and 6 o'clock remained at around 70 F. However, the 2-4 and 8-10 o'clock temperatures had dropped to 72-75 F. Everywhere else on the steering wheel, the temperatures were around 60 F.

On the 2012 X5, the starting temperature was 47 F (later in the day). After about 10 minutes the steering wheel had reached a temperature of 111-114 F and felt warm throughout. It actually got so warm, that I decided to shut it off and stop the testing.

In conclusion, the 2010 steering wheel warms up, but unevenly. It also appears that the temperature is regulated as it dropped after a while. The steering wheel on the 2012 on the other hand got very warm, about 30 F warmer than on the 2010 and became uncomfortably hot after a while, so had to shut it off.
I have the same problem with my 2013 X5. Taken to the dealer three times now. They say it meets specs which they say is between 90-100 degrees. Mines 90. A co-worker just purchased a 2014 just like mine and his must be about 110 because his is hot. Very disappointed in BMWs response. After owning over 12 Bemmers in a row, this may be my last. I am moving to cold weather soon and really wanted a heated steering wheel. I special ordered from the factory so didn't get a chance to find out until I got it home (it was May). I'm at a loss for what to do. Maybe I will have better luck in my home town in Illinois, I currently live in Nashville TN.
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I think the issue is just BMW switched to different supplies of the heating element and either didn't do a complete check or when with what was lowest cost. It was great that it was measured above, with that info I think if you try to escalate the complaint you might be able to get some results towards a replacement if the temp didn't goto spec

I didn't have a thermometer, but last week i had a 2012 x3 loaner, the steering wheel really got hot and fast so did the seats along the kings of my older 2007 528, seats and wheel get hot, and fast ! Whereas my 2012 X5d and 2014 535xi take a while and at best just get warm
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Have same uneven pattern on my wheel in my 2010 X5 35d.

Looks like no reason to waste my time and go to my local dealer as even for coming smoke once in awhile from under the hood (looks like faulty EGR) they said it's absolutely normal...
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