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Old 11-13-2013, 01:42 PM
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e90 OBD Port and Instrument Cluster suddenly stopped working

Hello I have a 2006 e90 330i. one night i was driving to my friend's house. everything in the car was fine. I turned off the car and locked it. My friend told me that he bought an OBDII scanner and it works great on his car. so I decided to see if it works on my car too. I unlocked my car and plugged the scanner to the OBDII port. It didn't turn the scanner on. so i decided to put the car ignition in the ON position. and still didn't turn on. then i realized my instrument cluster not working. everything else works fine except the instrumental cluster like warning lights, speedometer, nor miles screen. and the OBDII port.
i also realized that the back lights for the inside buttons (the steering wheel buttons, the middle console buttons, and the window buttons lights) stay ON for a while after locking the car

I checked all the fuses in the back of the glove box. everything seemed to be ok.
I also, tried using another scanner and it didn't work either.

anyone has any ideas what would be the problem.

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Old 11-13-2013, 02:29 PM
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Sounds like a faulty FRM to me.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:15 PM
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But isn't the FRM (footwell module) mostly control the exterior lights (headlights, etc. )
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:23 PM
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Hello I have a 2006 e90 330i. one night i was driving to my friend's house. everything in the car was fine. I turned off the car and locked it. My friend told me that he bought an OBDII scanner and it works great on his car. so I decided to see if it works on my car too. I unlocked my car and plugged the scanner to the OBDII port. It didn't turn the scanner on. so i decided to put the car ignition in the ON position. and still didn't turn on. then i realized my instrument cluster not working. everything else works fine except the instrumental cluster like warning lights, speedometer, nor miles screen. and the OBDII port.
i also realized that the back lights for the inside buttons (the steering wheel buttons, the middle console buttons, and the window buttons lights) stay ON for a while after locking the car

I checked all the fuses in the back of the glove box. everything seemed to be ok.
I also, tried using another scanner and it didn't work either.

anyone has any ideas what would be the problem.

Which scanner was it?

First things first. Fuses.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:53 PM
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But isn't the FRM (footwell module) mostly control the exterior lights (headlights, etc. )
It also controls instrument dimming and switch lighting as well as window operation.
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:16 PM
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Which scanner was it?

First things first. Fuses.
the scanner brand name is CEN-TECH
i checked the fuses behind the glovebox. they are fine.
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:18 PM
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It also controls instrument dimming and switch lighting as well as window operation.
but my main problem is that OBD port is not working, the cluster not working, neither the service menu in the middle screen.
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:03 AM
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the scanner brand name is CEN-TECH
i checked the fuses behind the glovebox. they are fine.

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Old 11-14-2013, 08:15 AM
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Fuse 74 has the OBD and cluster in common

Fuse 74 has the OBD and cluster in common
This usually blows when people are changing the battery
with a battery backup installed.
When you say checked them does that mean you measured
them with a meter?
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:20 PM
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You don't measure anything with fuses. It's a visual inspection.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:31 PM
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You don't measure anything with fuses. It's a visual inspection.
well you best do a continuity check because I had a fuse blow and you couldnt tell except by using a multimeter
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:09 PM
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Fuse F2 5A fuse behind glove box is for both of those problems by the way...
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:32 PM
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:36 PM
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above is my fuse box legend. it goes up to 70. i checked each one manually by pulling it out looking at it then put it back. i also did it with the tester to double check. some of them didnt light up with the light tester, so the same thing i pulled it out manually and double checked it. that is fine.
I'm starting to think its maybe the relays. but how would you check the relays!!

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2 pairs of hands or a set of alligator clips for the multimeter. You want to measure between ground and the pin that receives 12v when the relay's trigger has power, pin 87.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:38 PM
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I do believe fuse 58 is your instrument panel based on that sheet. If you don't have a multimeter to test it, swap it with one of a similar amperage rating and see if the problem follows the fuse.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:35 PM
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the problem was fuse 58. thank you guys so much for the help.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:02 PM
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I have seen several of those fuse maps

I have seen several of those fuse maps
and apparently there are some variations but the pictograghs seem consistent.
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