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Old 11-26-2013, 05:58 AM
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consumer reports on 3 and 5 series

anyone know what the fuel system issue is that is listed on C Reports for the 3 and 5
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:15 AM
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Not a very useful question if you don't have a link to the article. Kind of hard to tell.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:22 AM
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anyone know what the fuel system issue is that is listed on C Reports for the 3 and 5
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My subscription ran out - give us the details.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:57 AM
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If you've not had the opportunity to fill out a CR Auto Survey ... the questions about certain auto features etc are very very general. I often consider their reviews and the information contained ... BUT, take it with a grain of salt. IMHO their "journalists" are far from auto enthusiasts and want to act like engineers. Here's an example from my experience.

Controls: CR has called BMWs iDrive "confusing". Two months ago I used a 2013 Camry (one of their TOP TOP TOP rated cars). On a scale of 1-10, where 1 is NFW and 10 is SUPERSTAR, I give the Camry smart system a -2 ... Took me 3 tries to change a radio station!!. CR gave the Camry controls a "pass" while saying the BMWs complicated system was improving.

As for the OP question on Fuel system - could be anything from the loose gas cap triggering a check engine light to "premium gas recommended" ... think about some posters on this and other BMW forums and a small sample of questions we've all read about these somewhat "sophisticated" (complicated) Driving Machines!
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:15 AM
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Re; CReport
just looking at the latest CR summary re; the car trouble reports ;; no details in that,,, thats why i ask as a new owner..AND it is under warranty.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:47 AM
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I wonder if these are the same journalist that voted the N54 the overall international engine of the year in 2007 and 2008?

I wonder if they're the same journalist vote voted the N54 the best 2.5-3.0L engine in that class from 2007-2012?
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:31 AM
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:08 AM
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HPFP.

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CR slammed BMW for that a while ago.

Weird they would bring it up again, I thought the problem was pretty much solved with the HPFP replacement and updated software fix?

Maybe it's surfaced again, or the OP is reading old news.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:23 PM
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CR slammed BMW for that a while ago.

Weird they would bring it up again, I thought the problem was pretty much solved with the HPFP replacement and updated software fix?

Maybe it's surfaced again, or the OP is reading old news.
For the 535i, CR rated the '08 and '11 535i fuel system reliability as well below average (worst rating) with insufficient data on '07 and '10. The 2012 and '13 535i are both rated well above average (top rating) in that category. The 335i is not rated at all on their online summary (too lazy to dig out my April issue), but the 328i gets average to well above average fuel system ratings for every year except 2008.

So the OP must be looking at CR's rating of older models.

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I have the 2014 ConsumerReports "Buying Guide" open.

The black dots are still there for Fuel System for the 2007-2008-2009 335i and 2008-2009-2010 535i.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:12 PM
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anyone know what the fuel system issue is that is listed on C Reports for the 3 and 5
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if you like the car very much , you will not care how much mpg you got.
Assuming you have a ferrari/ lambo , you will not care abt the mpg because you love it.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:15 PM
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Controls: CR has called BMWs iDrive "confusing". Two months ago I used a 2013 Camry (one of their TOP TOP TOP rated cars). On a scale of 1-10, where 1 is NFW and 10 is SUPERSTAR, I give the Camry smart system a -2 ... Took me 3 tries to change a radio station!!. CR gave the Camry controls a "pass" while saying the BMWs complicated system was improving.
I'm not sure what Consumer Reports means by, "confusing". I have a 2011 with iDrive and found it extremely intuitive from the moment I rolled out of the dealership.

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if you like the car very much , you will not care how much mpg you got.
Assuming you have a ferrari/ lambo , you will not care abt the mpg because you love it.
This thread would appear to be about fuel system reliability, not mpg.

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I have the 2014 ConsumerReports "Buying Guide" open.

The black dots are still there for Fuel System for the 2007-2008-2009 335i and 2008-2009-2010 535i.
CR does not reevaluate cars after the surveys for that year model processed.


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The CR Annual Questionnaire is sent to subscribers each spring, so CR should have the data obtained from the 2013 questionnaire processed by now.

The December 2013 issue of CR ranks the predicted reliability of the 335i in last place for "Luxury compact cars", between -45% and -80% worse than average.

The predicted reliability of the 328i looks to be about -20% from the chart.
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The CR Annual Questionnaire is sent to subscribers each spring, so CR should have the data obtained from the 2013 questionnaire processed by now.

The December 2013 issue of CR ranks the predicted reliability of the 335i in last place for "Luxury compact cars", between -45% and -80% worse than average.

The predicted reliability of the 328i looks to be about -20% from the chart.
Exactly, next year you will not get a questionnaire for the same 2013 model - that's what I meant. So if enough owners complain about the fuel system for a particular car within a particular production year, and the manufacturer comes out with a fix at a later date, CR will still have a negative mark against the fuel system for that model year.
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I wonder if these are the same journalist that voted the N54 the overall international engine of the year in 2007 and 2008?

I wonder if they're the same journalist vote voted the N54 the best 2.5-3.0L engine in that class from 2007-2012?
The N54 is a fabulous engine.

I never had a problem with the HPFP, and they eventually fixed the fuel pump. But I have an engine that would do 0-60 in five and a half, get me 29 mpg on the freeway, never run out of breath, even over 130, and is flexible and docile in town, as well.

It is a freakin' great engine.

Running with the pack at 90+ on alligator alley, only the V12 Merc could beat me to a spot.
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anyone know what the fuel system issue is that is listed on C Reports for the 3 and 5
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I just looked at the CR 2014 booklet. They give the 2012 (latest information they have) the best rating. They also give this model high marks for reliability. Maybe they refer to the 335, but the issue is resolved.
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In the 2014 Buyer's guide (based on the 2012 survey) Consumer Reports recommends both the 3-Series and 5-Series (check marks).

In the December 2013 issue of Consumer Reports magazine, (page 64) (based on the 2013 survey) their predicted reliability for the 335i is in last place for "Luxury compact cars", between -45% and -80% worse than average, and the predicted reliability of the 328i looks to be about -20% below average.

It seems that something must have changed between the 2012 survey and the 2013 surveys, and it wasn't something good.

(Don't blame me -- I haven't filled out a CR survey in years!)
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These cars are built like crap constant problems particularly with HPFP. I'm in the process of getting my second set of new fuel injectors! The originals were changed on the recall about three years ago, now on to a new set. Mine is a 335 Cab, 2009 with 120,000 kms (that's 72,000 miles for you Americans), does this make sense????
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