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Old 11-26-2013, 09:33 PM
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2007-8 335i Reliablilty

I'm in the market for a used 335i and am really worried about the long term reliability of a 335i. The one I am looking at has 85k miles and hasn't had any major problems but how reliable is a 335i?
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:10 PM
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I'm in the market for a used 335i and am really worried about the long term reliability of a 335i. The one I am looking at has 85k miles and hasn't had any major problems but how reliable is a 335i?

Oh, yeah. We can tell you how that car will do.

Look here jvatter - if you're 'really worried' this isn't the car for you - Lexus is your game.

If you're looking for basic transportation - Lexus or Honda are choices. Accord's much improved.

If you're still interested, a visit to an Indy for pre-purchase inspection will tell you much more than a string of Internet posts will. You'd do well to simply lurk & read here awhile -- E90POST -- N54TECH.

There are a number of well known mods available to dramatically improve the ride, or you can purchase M3 which comes stock with most of 'em.

Good luck in your search!
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:43 PM
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Re: 2007-8 335i Reliablilty

Well, I would go for a Lexus or similar brand but I've always loved BMW and I have finally have the money put back to get one. So I figured a 335 would be a good fit for me. However, the 2007 335i had some problems. Were those fixed in the 2008 models?
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:06 AM
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I have a 2007. It has 64k miles on it, bought it Jan 2010 with 36k miles. I've had one HPFP go out, and dead battery shortly after I bought it, and replaced spark plugs summer 2011 but since then nothing major. I've replaced burned out angel eyes twice and the tail light socket once. TPMS is currently not functioning, but I just ignore it.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:46 AM
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I'm in the market for a used 335i and am really worried about the long term reliability of a 335i. The one I am looking at has 85k miles and hasn't had any major problems but how reliable is a 335i?
In the new 2014 Consumer Reports Buying Guide, the 2007-2008 335i is still on its "used cars to avoid" list.

My 328i has been surprisingly unreliable, considering that the 328i is supposed to be one of the most reliable BMW models, and considering how little my car is driven. (I blame Oktoberfest, since the car was assembled just after that time.) I still like the car, but it's not been very reliable.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:37 AM
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In the new 2014 Consumer Reports Buying Guide, the 2007-2008 335i is still on its "used cars to avoid" list.

My 328i has been surprisingly unreliable, considering that the 328i is supposed to be one of the most reliable BMW models, and considering how little my car is driven. (I blame Oktoberfest, since the car was assembled just after that time.) I still like the car, but it's not been very reliable.
What has been wrong with your 328i?
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:59 AM
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I'm in the market for a used 335i and am really worried about the long term reliability of a 335i. The one I am looking at has 85k miles and hasn't had any major problems but how reliable is a 335i?
Judging from this post and the fact that you are "really worried", my advice is to skip the 335 and go for something Japanese.

On the other hand, if you can commit to a strict maintenance schedule and won't be financially burdened by sudden repairs (i.e turbos, water pump, etc...) then a 335 can be a rewarding car to drive. Once again though, you cannot expect Japanese reliability.
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:11 AM
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Is it a fun car or your daily driver?


If it 's your fun car then the N54 equipped cars are on a short list of cars that look good, have lots of performance headroom and are still affordable.
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:26 AM
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What has been wrong with your 328i?
Electrical poltergeists, mainly. Several radios. Software updates. The stereo amplifier. The battery. The battery cable recall. Some $1000 gizmo that's involved in the stability control. Serpentine belt tensionser. The sunroof. The driver's seat cover was replaced early on -- defective cow. Probably a bunch of other stuff that I've forgotten.

My best failure was driving back from Thanksgiving dinner a few years ago and I was telling my daughter -- who is a saner person who drives a Honda Accord -- that BMWs are a lot of fun to drive and "really not all that unreliable" (she was having trouble stopping herself from laughing!) when deus ex machina, the BMW spirits intervened, the radio quit, half the radio display went blank, and the other half showed machine gibberish.

My BMW dealer has been very good with all this. And the car has never left me stranded, at least.

I still like the car. I'm even considering keeping it out of warranty, and stuffing $300/month into a cookie jar for repairs.
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Coming from an owner of a 2008 BMW 335i E90, I think the chassis is pretty reliable minus the fuel pump and wastegate/turbo issues that might arise. Luckily, the only major problem with vehicle that needed servicing was the fuel pump.

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Electrical poltergeists, mainly. Several radios. Software updates. The stereo amplifier. The battery. The battery cable recall. Some $1000 gizmo that's involved in the stability control. Serpentine belt tensionser. The sunroof. The driver's seat cover was replaced early on -- defective cow. Probably a bunch of other stuff that I've forgotten.

My best failure was driving back from Thanksgiving dinner a few years ago and I was telling my daughter -- who is a saner person who drives a Honda Accord -- that BMWs are a lot of fun to drive and "really not all that unreliable" (she was having trouble stopping herself from laughing!) when deus ex machina, the BMW spirits intervened, the radio quit, half the radio display went blank, and the other half showed machine gibberish.

My BMW dealer has been very good with all this. And the car has never left me stranded, at least.

I still like the car. I'm even considering keeping it out of warranty, and stuffing $300/month into a cookie jar for repairs.
Goodness, that's quite a lot! Hopefully mine doesn't turn out that bad!
Guessing this isn't the norm?
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:36 PM
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I've had my 2010 335i for about ten days now. In that time, it has been totally, completely, irrefutably 100% reliable!
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:40 PM
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Well, I would go for a Lexus or similar brand but I've always loved BMW and I have finally have the money put back to get one. So I figured a 335 would be a good fit for me.
This is way too loose to make up the decision.

CAN BUY: I would say that, if they really wanted it, 90% of Americans can buy a BMW vehicle.

CAN AFFORD: I would say that less than 10% of Americans can afford to have a BMW as a daily driver.

If this is to be your daily driver, I would suggest to walk if you do not:
a) have $5,000 of disposable income to have it available on moment's notice
b) intend to spend north of $1,000 per year on average in ordinary maintenance

However, as somebody else said above, if this is your toy to have fun with and you can't care less if it is stranded in your garage ... then absolutely go for it. There are extremely few occasions to get 300+ hp car that looks very decent and rides like E9x - all of that for roughly $20k. Just make sure you have a Honda Civic as a daily driver if you don't have money as specified above.

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Old 11-27-2013, 05:23 PM
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This is way too loose to make up the decision.

CAN BUY: I would say that, if they really wanted it, 90% of Americans can buy a BMW vehicle.

CAN AFFORD: I would say that less than 10% of Americans can afford to have a BMW as a daily driver.

If this is to be your daily driver, I would suggest to walk if you do not:
a) have $5,000 of disposable income to have it available on moment's notice
b) intend to spend north of $1,000 per year on average in ordinary maintenance

However, as somebody else said above, if this is your toy to have fun with and you can't care less if it is stranded in your garage ... then absolutely go for it. There are extremely few occasions to get 300+ hp car that looks very decent and rides like E9x - all of that for roughly $20k. Just make sure you have a Honda Civic as a daily driver if you don't have money as specified above.

Good luck!
Why would you say that? What is likely to fail on an E90 that would cost 5k to fix?
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:24 PM
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I drive a 2009 335 cab with 120,000 kms.

You got to crazy to buy a 335 I with 85,000 miles unless you're prepare to spend money on a good after market warranty. I'm on to my second set of fuel injectors car is in the shop as I write this. These cars are too complicated, computerized to be reliable. Yes they look great, drive really nicely, I get tons of compliments especially in the summer with the top down. But you need to invest in a warranty otherwise you are playing Russian roulette! Tire warranty as well ! Six months into my lease had water pump replaced, four months later fuel injectors malfunctioned. Another two months rear run flat broke and completely wrecked the side of the car.....$5,000 in body work. Thank you for covering the repair BMW! Just last week oil filter gasket and some other gasket replaced....luckily under warranty otherwise would have cost me over $1,000.00, now second set of injectors!
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:32 PM
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Bought a new 2007 335I, and it was the worse car I ever owned. Bmw bought the car back after several attempts to repair electrical problems, and more. I then ordered a 2008 328i that I currently own.
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Old 11-28-2013, 06:18 AM
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Why would you say that? What is likely to fail on an E90 that would cost 5k to fix?
Would you be able to fix malfunctioning VANOS? If not, that would be $2,500, please. I was lucky it happened during warranty and had presence of mind to ask for the cost I didn't need to pay.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that N54/N55 isn't an engine you can likely fix with your buddy and a six pack. Both indy and official BMW techs want some serious coin for working on our cars. By reading this forum last 3 1/2 years, I was sometimes shocked how (relatively) little replacement parts cost, but if you can't put it back together ...

Lastly, again, if the car is a toy, fine, go for it. Few toys out there are as much of a value in fun per dollar as E9x N54/N55. But a daily driver? The car you depend on to go to work and earn to pay mortgage and bills? Yeah, as I said, you better keep $5k somewhere easily accessible. OK, if you want to argue that $3.5k might be enough - I'll agree, it might. But you better have it fixed right now if needed since this is your daily driver.
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I picked up my '07 new on ED in May '07. I've had a couple minor repairs (like most any car) but it's been a very reliable car for me. I may be a little leery buying a used one with 85k, just because I don't know what happened during those miles.
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Old 11-28-2013, 07:36 AM
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I'm with Mark K on this, IMO his replies are spot on.
As much as I'd like to say the 335 is a fine daily driver it's just not.

Set aside $5k like he said or just hold on to your car that you had before you wanted to buy a 335.
If you haven't kept up on your previous car and you're getting rid of it cause its falling apart, that should be a warning to you on how you treat your cars and again maybe a 335 isn't for you.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:39 AM
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Look at Truedelta.com for reliability info. Data collected from owners quarterly with repair frequency and types of repairs listed. Reviews by owners as well.
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My 07 has been a daily driver for 6+ years now. I may be jinxing myself, but I probably spent $700-800 on repairs since the warranty expired. That includes oil changes.


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Old 11-29-2013, 04:40 AM
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I will admit my 07 I recently bought with 23k miles has been flawless but I just assumed with low miles and only 5k miles under my belt its just not a long enough sample.
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I wouldn't buy one with that many miles. I got my 2008 335i sport in 2010 for 23k including TT&L with 52k miles on it. It still has CPO until 3/2014 and I just hit 86k miles. I've had a water pump fail, injectors fail, and HPFP fail. That's three times in about 30k miles my car left me stranded. That is not counting the three times I replaced a rear run flats before I realized the rear wheels were defective.

I plan on driving this case like I stole it past 200k miles, but Ive got mad cash and a accord, 4runner and cbr1000rr as a back up.

If its your only ride and you want dependable go get a 2014 Toyota Tacoma 4x4.
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