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Old 12-12-2013, 08:13 AM
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Winter Tires - Are these fine?

i don't see the need to go upwards in price for winter tires.

Does anybody have any opinions are knowledge of these:

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Old 12-12-2013, 08:17 AM
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In general not a big fan of Chinese tires. Spend a few more $$ and get something of higher quality. That's my $.02.

Correction: I believe that they're actually Indonesian tires.

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Old 12-12-2013, 09:00 AM
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i don't see the need to go upwards in price for winter tires.

Does anybody have any opinions are knowledge of these:

GT Radial Champiro WinterPro HP
225/45R17XL 94V B
About Our Pricing
$88.00 each

Man drives a BMW, sees no need to pay more than the cheapest tire there is.

So, lay it out for us lilyogi: What are the performance characteristics of your choice?
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:13 AM
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Man drives a BMW, sees no need to pay more than the cheapest tire there is.

So, lay it out for us lilyogi: What are the performance characteristics of your choice?
in the winter, i'm not about performance...just getting from point a to point b...safely of course.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:22 AM
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Any winter tire will out perform an all season, so cheap snow tires are better and worth getting, you can get some better quality stuff, like the Dunlop Winter Maxx tires for about 118 each, but if it is a prcie thing, your still better off with the cheap snows that nothing at all!
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:28 PM
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Over time, it pays to get used rims and mount winter tires on them, and store them for the other seasons. Of course, you need storage room.

But mounting, balancing and dismounting tires is expensive, and the beads can be damaged.

If you run winter tires, run actual winter tires - not all-season. Tire Rack and Discount Tire have reviews online. Don't run super-cheap winter tires, get some with good reviews.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:53 PM
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in the winter, i'm not about performance...just getting from point a to point b...safely of course.
I was just watching some youtube videos on winter tires compared to summer tires or even all season. It truly is amazing the night & day difference when snowshoes are put on a vehicle. If I lived up North in the snowbelt, I think I would honestly put a set on every year.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:03 PM
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i would pay a little more for a name brand tire. just because it looks similar to the construction of other snow tires doesnt mean that it will perform as well

ex: chinese tires:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...ng-l688-page-3
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:34 PM
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I would go with a brand name. For me the issue is safety, and I am not sure about how well the Chinese tires are made.
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:43 PM
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i don't see the need to go upwards in price for winter tires.
If you don't mind driving on loud tires with poor quality rubber and grip, who are we to question your decisions?
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:56 PM
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Doesn't it snow up there? Buy some Blizzaks. Either that or buy a beater to drive in the winter.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:25 PM
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in the winter, i'm not about performance...just getting from point a to point b...safely of course.
I'm with you on this, but you really should get something that's at least middle of the road quality. I've owned winter tires of all quality levels, and they all do well in the snow. Where I've seen the difference is how they drive in the dry and rain. My cheapo tires were the absolute worst tires I've owned when it came to braking. If it was raining care needed to be taken so I wouldn't slide through stop signs and red lights. I picked up a set of lightly used Hankook winters for cheap this year, and while they don't perform like the Nokians i had for my previous car, they're still competent and drive well in the rain. Paid $600 for them and the BMW OEM wheels they were mounted on. Look for a deal, they're out there.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:15 PM
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If the tires are fresh, I wouldn't hesitate to use them for snow conditions. A lot of the brands are now made in Asia. More important is soft rubber with lots of small sipes (cuts) to act like a squeegee.

For us winter lasts for less than three months and it's a messy wet time when wheels and tires take a beating. High end cars slap on black steel rims and snow tires. I used only Nokia Hakkapellitta snow tires for the longest time but technology of tread design and rubber compound has improved so I have a set of Gislaveds now.

Fresh rubber with modern tread design is all that you need. Less costly tires allow you to justify a fresh set sooner which to me is a bonus. I have a problem wearing out snow tires and once they go hard like a hockey puck in cold weather they are useless.

Just some thoughts for your consideration.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:03 AM
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I forgot to mention that I have GT Champiro snow tries on my truck and they are fine.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:06 PM
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I think consistent dry and warm weather has it's benefits. No Winter tires needed here. Thank goodness. I could not own a BMW and my other cars if needed. How do you all survive in that crap? I'm teeing off at 6:50am tomorrow!
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:39 AM
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Winter snow has it's benefits. It makes a dull landscape bright and white to cheer us up. It provides endless sporting options from snowshoes (hiking) to snowmobile racing. Storms are called ' benevolent disasters'. You can participate in the disaster by pushing stuck cars and helping the elderly cross the road or you can stay home and read a book by the fire.

Snow is also a great driving instructor. The subtle feeling of traction limits that race drivers are testing at high speeds we get to test at lower speeds on snow or ice. Cars spin out with out skilled hands at the wheel. It's like a track day challenge when it snows.

Most of all we learn to control a car with slow motion inputs. Slow steering changes, no panic braking, and gentle acceleration are all learned skills.

I used to dread winter's toll on our cars because of salt and low temperature start ups but after visiting Phoenix and hearing that cars deteriorate there too from heat destroying rubber components I figured it was an acceptable trade off.

Without season changes, life would not be as varied. Today my motorcycle and kayaks are wrapped and stored until Spring and winter sports equipment is being prepped for a new season. We used to race sailboats and couldn't understand why boats in warmer climates
sit unused at a club or marina. When summer is here we sailed a lot.

Bottom line is the change to winter provides intensity to the seasonal things that we enjoy.
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Old 12-16-2013, 06:49 PM
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Winter Tires - Are these fine?

so i bought winter tires today ... Cooper Weather Master ST/2. Great reviews and definitely a step up from my original (low end) pick. It is amazing how different they feel from my run flats and awesome in snow. also, got a deal...gave me the same price as the GT Radial Champiro. I'm happy


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Old 12-17-2013, 12:40 PM
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