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Old 12-13-2013, 09:19 AM
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My dilemma....

I have a 2008 328i with approximately 57k miles. This vehicle will be out of the maintenance plan and CPO warranty in May of 2014. The only non-maintenance issue I have had with the car is the fuel cap sensor needed replacement and one of the coils went out. Other than that the car is a champ and I love it. I keep hearing horror stories about how expensive BMW's are to operate once they are out of warranty and this has me concerned. A $1k repair is one thing but a $5k repair is not something I want to deal with. I'm a female so doing my own repairs is out of the question.

I'm considering trading the car in sometime next year for car I can pay off and drive to 100k miles (Toyota or Lexus). The only problem is that I love my car and how it drives and I know a Japanese car will not be as fun to drive.

Another option is leasing a new BMW and turning it in after the lease is up, then getting another BMW. I don't know anything about leasing and the probability of getting screwed by the dealer is high. In addition to that, I don't care for the way the new 4 cylinder turbo 328i's drive and I know BMW has had problem with their turbo's in the past.

I would love to hear from those of you who are driving vehicles that are out of warranty and what issues you have encountered.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:32 AM
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I have a 2008 328i with approximately 57k miles. This vehicle will be out of the maintenance plan and CPO warranty in May of 2014. The only non-maintenance issue I have had with the car is the fuel cap sensor needed replacement and one of the coils went out. Other than that the car is a champ and I love it. I keep hearing horror stories about how expensive BMW's are to operate once they are out of warranty and this has me concerned. A $1k repair is one thing but a $5k repair is not something I want to deal with. I'm a female so doing my own repairs is out of the question.

I'm considering trading the car in sometime next year for car I can pay off and drive to 100k miles (Toyota or Lexus). The only problem is that I love my car and how it drives and I know a Japanese car will not be as fun to drive.

Another option is leasing a new BMW and turning it in after the lease is up, then getting another BMW. I don't know anything about leasing and the probability of getting screwed by the dealer is high. In addition to that, I don't care for the way the new 4 cylinder turbo 328i's drive and I know BMW has had problem with their turbo's in the past.

I would love to hear from those of you who are driving vehicles that are out of warranty and what issues you have encountered.
If you truly like the car, just stick with the CPO warranty. That will cover damn near all the issues you may have along the way like water pumps and ignition coils and so on and so fourth. I bought mine in it's later years and I've had less problem than a lot of forum members, just the luck of the draw. Your car could turn out to be a complete mess and always have an issue or it could have none, just like buying any other brand of car really. Good luck and I hope you make the right choice... (keep the bmw ),
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:02 AM
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I just wish I had more than five months left on the warranty.....The car is in the shop now for a scheduled vehicle check. They just called to tell me the valve gasket has a leak and they are fixing it under the cpo warranty.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:48 AM
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My dilemma....

PIt sounds to me like you value having a warranty so you don't have a large unexpected bill. If that is the case you may want to strongly consider leasing as BMW has made leasing a 3 series very attractive (at this time) versus buying/dumping every 6 years.

If you decide to keep your car I would highly suggest seeking an independent mechanic either by asking on a thread covering your local area or searching on www.bimmershops.com

Personally we have owned two 5 series (1993, 1999 - neither of which were we original owners) for a combined 16 years out of warranty. Only once did a single bill eclipse $2500 (full suspension work performed by dealer). We had less than ten $500-1500 bills (all performed by an independent BMW specialist). The 1993 is still with us and has 204,000 miles, the 1999 was sold with 187,000 miles. Bought the 1993 with 56,000, the 1999 with 66,000.

My rule is to question a large bill when the repairs put more money into the vehicle than it is worth if totalled. Clearly we keep our vehicles a long time ;-)


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Old 12-13-2013, 12:11 PM
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My dilemma....

"I am a female so doing my own repairs is out of the question."


...why?


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Old 12-13-2013, 12:28 PM
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The answer depends on a lot of factors and there's no one right answer. One school of thought has been to keep the car as it's less costly to repair a car you own compared with buying a new one (of course there's a lot of assumptions in that statement). The other school of thought is the repairs tend to be as much as financing, or at least leasing, a new car which includes maintenance and has a warranty. For BMW's I believe there's merit to the latter school of thought (though I've never run the numbers myself).

The 328 is one of BMW's more reliable vehicles. Many believe if you've had few issues with it by the time you reach the end of the warranty you've got a "good" one and it should remain trouble free (while I understand that school of thought I don't necessarily agree with it). Only you can decide if the reliability of your car is enough to warrant keeping it. If you decide to keep it there are a couple of options: Self insure (i.e. pay for needed repairs / maintenance as the arise) or purchase a third party warranty (I continue to receive offers for these despite the fact my vehicle has been out of warranty for 2 1/2 years now). I'd also second the recommendation to find a good indy who specializes in BMW's.

BMW's are not Honda or Toyota levels of quality. But they're not bad either. However simple maintenance / parts can be a lot more expensive for them compared to other vehicles. If maintenance / repairs would be a burden on your finances I would recommend an alternative to BMW.
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:25 PM
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Thank you for your input. I'm leaning towards keeping the car until it starts to give me trouble. I just love the car :-)
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:59 PM
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I would keep it. You can probably drive it another 50K without a ton of repairs. Even if you replace a couple of things preemptively like the battery or water pump, you will still be ahead financially by not buying a new car. (That you won't like as much anyway, right?)
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:49 PM
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No dilemma at all. My 2009 has 31K on the clock and came off the 4yr/50K warranty in August. I have absolutely no qualms about keeping it for a long time. I've had zero issues with the engine and drive train, I religiously have my oil changed, in fact I recently had my Indy mechanic dial the CBS counter back to a more livable miles to service value. He got a chuckle out of that! If the car is sound at this point, as long as you treat it well with regular maintenance, it will treat you well. I'm like you in that I have no desire to 'upgrade' to a 4 cylinder turbo. I love my MT inline 6. I will do everything reasonably possible to keep it on the road as long as I can.

Just my humble opinion, but it seems like many of the folks who fuss that BMWs are too expensive to maintain out of warranty have little or no experience maintaining anything out of warranty. It's a machine. You have to put effort in on the front end, (regular maintenance) to receive rewards on the back end (longevity). Even the two Hondas that I owned for a combined 25 years required regular maintenance. No automobile is immune from that.
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Old 12-14-2013, 04:30 AM
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I'll keep my 335i on warranty until 100,000 and then change it for another.

Have 2 cars so not fussed if one is in the shop.

Have to say, the bmw is behaving itself.

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Sitting here at 107,000 miles, off the warranty since I hit 50,000 three years ago.

I'm in the "keep it until repair costs exceed depreciation costs on a new one" camp, and I'm good with that decision so far.
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CGMiller I like your model car so much I just searched for months to find one with the same mileage for our son's first car!

Daughter is still driving the previous model a 2002 330i at 135,000 miles.

Yes you will have an occasional repair but hopefully you have found the good Indy mechanic shop that will treat you right.
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Thank you for your input. I'm leaning towards keeping the car until it starts to give me trouble. I just love the car :-)

What price, happiness? For you, no price at all....and a good opportunity to learn of things mechanical.

And why shouldn't you? I can tell you this: Tool girls are very popular with guys.
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