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Old 12-22-2013, 10:31 AM
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Test drove 325i - your thoughts?

It's a 2006 325i, looks very good from outside and seems in good shape. It's one of the first BMW's I have driven, so I have a few questions from owners or someone with more experience.
While driving and coming to a stop, does automatic transmission have a "nudge" usually before coming to a complete stop? It seems when disengaging while braking, the car sort of lurches forward very briefly and lightly... seems unusual to me. Is this normal?
I am currently driving a six-speed manual, so not sure how it's supposed to feel.
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:50 PM
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:18 PM
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Not sure what you mean by a "nudge" just before coming to a complete stop but you will feel a series of downshifts as you decelerate ....... can see the tach bump up each time .... the 6 AT transmission has a much crisper feel than most other cars.
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:25 PM
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I know what you mean, my 335i does it as well when it's cold, seems to get smoother as it warms up
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:35 PM
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Not sure what you mean by a "nudge" just before coming to a complete stop but you will feel a series of downshifts as you decelerate ....... can see the tach bump up each time .... the 6 AT transmission has a much crisper feel than most other cars.
That's a good way to put it. The downshifts are very distinct.
Also, right before a complete stop, you can feel car bumps forward a little. So you feel the transmission disengage every time you stop. So as you're slowing down, around 5 mph, there's a very brief and slight burst of acceleration. After, you can feel the transmission is disengaged and you come to a complete stop.
I would expect every stop to be a lot smoother with AT. Very weird to feel that bump every time you stop.
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:41 PM
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Not sure what you mean by a "nudge" just before coming to a complete stop but you will feel a series of downshifts as you decelerate ....... can see the tach bump up each time .... the 6 AT transmission has a much crisper feel than most other cars.
Agreed. I was able to "lessen" the effects of it though by resetting my adaptive transmission.


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Old 12-22-2013, 02:46 PM
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Test drove 325i - your thoughts?

That nudge means it needs the transmission solenoid changed out... Check out my dyi... I have a write up


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Old 12-22-2013, 03:28 PM
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That nudge means it needs the transmission solenoid changed out... Check out my dyi... I have a write up


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Oh man - thanks that helps a ton.
Looks like it should have happened a lot later, maybe the car was abused. It only has 60K right now.
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:31 PM
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nudge

It could just use a transmission fluid changeout. That sometimes can have the same effect. The problem is the fluid is pricey. Its is like $20 a Liter and you need 8 quarts to do a proper changeout.

Its more of a time factor then mile-age.
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My car only has 28k miles and does the same thing, are you telling me that a transmission fluid change would fix this...?
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:42 PM
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I am not 100% sure, but zf recommends the fluid changed out 6 years or 100K miles.

I change out the fluid, filter, and the solenoids. The fluid was black. I hear it will be black after 20k miles.... and its a time vs heat that brakes down the fluid.

The fresh fluid might fix it. The solenoids cost about $480 for the set..... so its not a cheap fix.

with the low mileage vehicle's I would say change the fluid, and have the adaptation reset.... if that doesn't fix it, then change the solenoids, it is costly... and time consuming.....

the fluid change out is real strange... so follow it to the T......
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Old 12-22-2013, 04:19 PM
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Oh man - thanks that helps a ton.
Looks like it should have happened a lot later, maybe the car was abused. It only has 60K right now.
Drive another similar car if you can to be sure you are familiar with the BMW "feel".

60k miles the tranny should not be giving any trouble.

We have a 2002 330i with 135k miles in the family and the transmission feels like it did on day one.

If this is a car you are thinking about buying get it inspected by a good indy mechanic ..... there are many other issues that should be identified!
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Old 12-22-2013, 05:41 PM
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Drive another similar car if you can to be sure you are familiar with the BMW "feel".

60k miles the tranny should not be giving any trouble.

We have a 2002 330i with 135k miles in the family and the transmission feels like it did on day one.

If this is a car you are thinking about buying get it inspected by a good indy mechanic ..... there are many other issues that should be identified!
yup, good advice.

I'll go for a test drive at a stealership a similar BMW and see if it's different.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:07 AM
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Unless you can find another 06 it won't be the same.

Unless you can find another 06 it won't be the same.

The transmission changed in 07 till about 2011 in the US and the newer ones are
different than that.
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:19 AM
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That nudge means it needs the transmission solenoid changed out... Check out my dyi... I have a write up

URL?

'Course, could be a sticky valve body, solenoid OK - only dis-assembly wil tell the tale.


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Old 12-23-2013, 05:38 AM
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Unless you can find another 06 it won't be the same.

The transmission changed in 07 till about 2011 in the US and the newer ones are
different than that.
Understood. But if that's the case, 07 or 08 might be a much better choice then. I would expect the shifting to feel a lot smoother in a BMW.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:24 AM
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The 07 was a GM transmission 06 was better some say.

The 07 onward was a GM transmission 06 was better some say.
You might want to look for a manual transmission if you like driving and don't
have a horrid commute.

I would look for some threads on this and you may also want to
download the Mike Miller old school maintenance schedule as he talks
about this some and it is also a history of the maintenance schedule and
some of the changes in the car . Google Mike Miller BMW there is a version 2 something
you can immediately download but the is up to version 4 if you mail him for it which
mostly has more info on the Turbo models.

I was watching Wheeler Dealers the other day and they had an old episode where
they brought a boxter s tiptronic back to life with a fluid change.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...m+transmission

This and a lot of other threads came up with the search " gm transmission" here.

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Old 12-23-2013, 10:52 AM
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The 07 onward was a GM transmission 06 was better some say.
You might want to look for a manual transmission if you like driving and don't
have a horrid commute.

I would look for some threads on this and you may also want to
download the Mike Miller old school maintenance schedule as he talks
about this some and it is also a history of the maintenance schedule and
some of the changes in the car . Google Mike Miller BMW there is a version 2 something
you can immediately download but the is up to version 4 if you mail him for it which
mostly has more info on the Turbo models.

I was watching Wheeler Dealers the other day and they had an old episode where
they brought a boxter s tiptronic back to like with a fluid change.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...m+transmission

This and a lot of other threads came up with the search " gm transmission" here.
Thanks, I read a few threads too. It seems the GM trans that is installed in the 3 series is of good quality (most opinions); just like the BMW ZF. Now the car that I test drove had this issue and as much as I would love to believe that a fluid change will fix the issue; it deterred be from buying this particular car. And I plan on test-driving a similar car (hopefully today) to test the transmission.
I will look for Mike Miller BMW, see what that's all about. A manual would be nice - there aren't that many around here (zip 01106).
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Old 12-23-2013, 01:37 PM
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If you are going for an 06 might as well get a 330

If you are going for an 06 might as well get a 330
Much better power with no trade of in mpg's plus it was
outfitted with the better options out of the box for the most part.
They are both 3 liter motors despite the 325 number by the way.
(In the US world wide I think they still have 2.5s somewhere)

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Old 12-23-2013, 06:03 PM
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If you are going for an 06 might as well get a 330
Much better power with no trade of in mpg's plus it was
outfitted with the better options out of the box for the most part.
They are both 3 liter motors despite the 325 number by the way.
(In the US world wide I think they still have 2.5s somewhere)
Yeah I figured the same - was going to test drive this, but it is sold:
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

Keep on looking ...
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