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Old 12-30-2013, 11:05 AM
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Steptronic shifting slower than other autos?

The more I drive my 2011 335i xdrive I'm noticing that the automatic transmission seems to shift quite a bit slower than other autos. It shifts perfectly smooth but it kind of bothers me that my buddies accord shifts faster than my 335i.

Is this normal or something that other people have noticed?


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Old 12-30-2013, 11:46 AM
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The more I drive my 2011 335i xdrive I'm noticing that the automatic transmission seems to shift quite a bit slower than other autos. It shifts perfectly smooth but it kind of bothers me that my buddies accord shifts faster than my 335i.

Is this normal or something that other people have noticed?

Step's well known to take its time, a function intended to lengthen the life of transmission solenoids as they see less wear at lower velocity. Thus, transmission fluid can be "Lifetime" and your ride declared "Luxury," albeit entry level.

Proud you should be to drive a car with dignified transmission, and no rice burnin' built-to-a-price Accord can come close.


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Old 12-30-2013, 11:55 AM
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Re: Steptronic shifting slower than other autos?

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't trade my car for his and I definitely love my car. Maybe the accord was a bad example but even my dad's audi a4 (non dual clutch) shifts way faster yet takes off smoother. Unless I'm super careful with the throttle, mine heels off the line quite a bit

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Old 12-30-2013, 12:20 PM
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You're car will sort of adapt to the way you drive. If you drive slowly and don't gun it much, the car will shift gears more slow and more smoothly than if you drive with a lead foot.

I say "sort of" because it doesn't exactly learn a driver's unique driving habits, it will activate pre-determined profiles.

You can try resetting the throttle adaption by turning ignition on (press start/stop button without foot on the brake, with key in), and hold throttle down for about 30-45 seconds. You'll feel a slight change.

If you have access to a scan tool that can reset adaptations, you can reset engine adaptations as well (knock, lambda, octane, vanos, etc) and the car will behave more aggressively, initially. As it learns your driving habits, it will smooth out.
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:07 PM
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You're car will sort of adapt to the way you drive. If you drive slowly and don't gun it much, the car will shift gears more slow and more smoothly than if you drive with a lead foot.

I say "sort of" because it doesn't exactly learn a driver's unique driving habits, it will activate pre-determined profiles.

You can try resetting the throttle adaption by turning ignition on (press start/stop button without foot on the brake, with key in), and hold throttle down for about 30-45 seconds. You'll feel a slight change.

If you have access to a scan tool that can reset adaptations, you can reset engine adaptations as well (knock, lambda, octane, vanos, etc) and the car will behave more aggressively, initially. As it learns your driving habits, it will smooth out.
I've never understood this adaptive thing .....

So I creep through the carpool line dropping my son at school and then leave to rob the neighborhood bank ...... need a fast getaway ..... how do it know????
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:26 PM
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:59 PM
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you can drive in Manual sport and shift gears on your own.
Still has the delay that drives me (for one) nuts at times. I start shouting go! go! at the wheel sometimes.. normally it's shifting by the time I start speaking but has felt like an ice age. This is with the GM transmission (328i).

Our BMWs shift a lot faster than many cars I've driven. It's surprising an Accord would be much faster.

Dual clutch boxes are moving down market all the time; should be an option at least on a regular three series soon I'd imagine. For a while I've been eyeing used 997s but really want one with the dual clutch and they are a bit pricey. 991s are mostly selling with PDKs. Our local stealer has about four times the number of cars with PDK vs manual: http://hennessy.porschedealer.com/ne...911/search.php
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I've never understood this adaptive thing .....

So I creep through the carpool line dropping my son at school and then leave to rob the neighborhood bank ...... need a fast getaway ..... how do it know????

It is very similar to marriage, but less prone to mood swings.
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Dual clutch boxes are moving down market all the time; should be an option at least on a regular three series soon I'd imagine.
The DCT transmission has been an option for the Euro 335i at least since MY11. It makes no sense that BMW didn't also offer it for the U.S. 335i, unless it was simply a marketing ploy to reserve it for the 335is.

And if you want faster shifting from your AT, you could always have someone install the Aplina B3 TCU flash. This E90Post thread has all of the details, including how to avoid the tachometer issue by ensuring you have the most recent DME and other module updates.
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The DCT transmission has been an option for the Euro 335i at least since MY11. It makes no sense that BMW didn't also offer it for the U.S. 335i, unless it was simply a marketing ploy to reserve it for the 335is.
US market is pretty different. New cars are a lot more expensive in Europe. In general the kind of person who'd buy a 911 here would buy a 335i in Europe. The CEO at one firm I worked for in the US had a three series! I've been to a billionaires house there and it looked like the daily driver was a 3-er wagon (maybe wife's runabout).

Most 335i buyers here (US) won't know what a twin clutch box is; in Europe most 335i buyers will read Evo etc and be very aware.

Looking on BMW UK's website: cheapest 335i there is ~$62K for a base sedan and I guarantee it has less standard features than a US base model (~$43K here).
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US market is pretty different. New cars are a lot more expensive in Europe. In general the kind of person who'd buy a 911 here would buy a 335i in Europe. The CEO at one firm I worked for in the US had a three series! I've been to a billionaires house there and it looked like the daily driver was a 3-er wagon (maybe wife's runabout).

Most 335i buyers here (US) won't know what a twin clutch box is; in Europe most 335i buyers will read Evo etc and be very aware.

Looking on BMW UK's website: cheapest 335i there is ~$62K for a base sedan and I guarantee it has less standard features than a US base model (~$43K here).

WHAT?!?!?!


I take great exception to this scurrilous slur on the greatness of American Manhood, MP3_E46 . Yes!

Though NYC may have elected a nancing male lesbian as Mayor and we are at least for now doomed to Obamacare, I shall not, and can not, accept this egregious insult!!

Every red blooded, and I use term in the traditional way, true BMW pilot knows exactly what a dual clutch transmission is, and the benefits thereof.

Penance, MP3_E46, that is your duty now. You must devote your time to making amends, and planning your pilgrimage to the Shrine of the Four Tubes in Munich, Germany. The path is broad, and firm, and you should post your progress here - we look forward to your journey!



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WHAT?!?!?!


I take great exception to this scurrilous slur on the greatness of American Manhood, MP3_E46 . Yes!

Though NYC may have elected a nancing male lesbian as Mayor and we are at least for now doomed to Obamacare, I shall not, and can not, accept this egregious insult!!

Every red blooded, and I use term in the traditional way, true BMW pilot knows exactly what a dual clutch transmission is, and the benefits thereof.

Penance, MP3_E46, that is your duty now. You must devote your time to making amends, and planning your pilgrimage to the Shrine of the Four Tubes in Munich, Germany. The path is broad, and firm, and you should post your progress here - we look forward to your journey!
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On this forum I'd bet 95%+ know. Most guys I've worked with would have no clue; it's amazing how many have asked if my Prius is totally electric when we go for lunch. A fair number have nice cars, but know little about them. I remember showing one that he has a button that lowers ride height + stiffens shocks. E500 IIRC. A buddy with a 335i didn't know how his traction control button worked.. he had fun in the parking lot that night One other guy with a 335i was pretty much on top of it and borrowed my cable to code it - he'd never heard of intake carbon build up though.

You guys are on here a like Priests at the top of the religion. Others may follow but are like Sunday only church goers.
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The more I drive my 2011 335i xdrive I'm noticing that the automatic transmission seems to shift quite a bit slower than other autos. It shifts perfectly smooth but it kind of bothers me that my buddies accord shifts faster than my 335i.

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Try looking up the Alpina B3 TCU flash... It may help shifting... I am planning to get this flashed after i get my X1 35i back from service
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Try looking up the Alpina B3 TCU flash... It may help shifting... I am planning to get this flashed after i get my X1 35i back from service
Lots of people are raving about, even several videos on YouTube.

"This Alpina TCU flash works for model years 3/07 till present N54 engine only. If your production date is before 3/07, your out of luck and cant flash your car!"

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=677655
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No Works on the N55 as well

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"This Alpina TCU flash works for model years 3/07 till present N54 engine only. If your production date is before 3/07, your out of luck and cant flash your car!"
If you use the link I provided in my first post, you'll see that it's entirely about the Alpina B3 TCU flash for the N55. There was a problem with certain cars where the tach would drop to zero during shifts, but that can be remedied by a DME update.

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If you use the link I provided in my first post, you'll see that it's entirely about the Alpina B3 TCU flash for the N55. There was a problem with certain cars where the tach would drop to zero during shifts, but that can be remedied by a DME update.
Got it, I just posted the best link I'd found in several minutes of looking. Am jealous of those with the 335i gearbox who can flash; don't need the extra power but faster shifts would be welcomed.



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My brother once told me how difficult it was to add oil to his car.. he was adding in the dipstick hole. True story.
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Try looking up the Alpina B3 TCU flash... It may help shifting... I am planning to get this flashed after i get my X1 35i back from service
Got the alpina b3 flash done today. amazing difference! Transformed the whole car and now it shifts much faster and is way more fun to drive!
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