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Old 01-07-2014, 10:26 PM
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Question Snow Tires PA4 or Sottozero or Blizzak and what width

For the car (my 2 door M5 aka a C6 Corvette) I need to put snows on, I need to run 19's on the rear and 18's on the front (I could run (18's on the back, but want to use the rims I have and buy summer rims)

The Pirelli have some good reviews, some not so good. Had the blizzaks before, loved them, but they stopped making the size I want, so I would have to use two blizzak model front and rear (don't like the idea of mixed tires)

The PA4's are fairly new, and not many reviews on them. Wondering if anyone has them, and how they compare to other snows they have owned.

The other question is width, the rears the smallest I can go is 255/40, and on the front I can go with 245/40 or 225/45 (more options with the 245)

So I'm not sure if the front should be as close to the back as possible, or as thin as possible??

I'm thinking the closer in size, the more predictable the handling will be

This is the factory set up, this is for my "2 door M5" non-BMW car, it is a C6 corvette. The stock wheels are 245/40 18 on the front and 285 35 19 on the rear.

And those have a diameter difference of 1.14" 4.59%

The sizes I want to use would be 1.32" 4.95%

Last edited by CarGuyHere; 01-09-2014 at 01:18 PM. Reason: This was posted more for the input of the PA4's & SottoZero's
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:08 AM
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I've had earlier PA2; they're at least as good as performance Blizzaks. Only way to get better is to go non-performance (xIce or WS-70 Blizzak, etc.) You might also consider Nokkian Hakkepellita (which many people swear by) or Continental or Dunlop.

The outside diameter of the tire/wheel combination you buy MUST be very close in overall diameter so that the xDrive system and DSC go crazy. I don't know of any other people that run different-sized wheels front/rear, so you're going to be a pioneer. I would use tirerack.com to explore the various sizes you need in 18 & 19 wheels.
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Old 01-08-2014, 02:56 PM
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For the car I need to put snows on, I need to run 19's on the rear and 18's on the front (I could run (18's on the back, but want to use the rims I have and buy summer rims)
I don't think that is a good idea. You want to keep the overall diameter of all the tires the same.

Tire calculator.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos

Like floydarogers said check with tire rack to make sure.

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Old 01-08-2014, 08:47 PM
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I don't think that is a good idea. You want to keep the overall diameter of all the tires the same.

Tire calculator.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos

Like floydarogers said check with tire rack to make sure.
+1 on this. Not a good idea to run 18s and 19s. If budget is a concern, why not go with a square set of 17s for the winter. The money you'll save on the tires will get you most of the way to a used set of 17s, plus you'll have a bit more rubber between your wheels and those frigid ice/pothole laden Canadian roads.

Or you can just go all in on a complete set that someone used for a winter or two. Like this one: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=742732 (there are plenty of others in the wheel and tire section).

BTW, for the most part thinner is better for winters 225s are recommended by Tire Rack along with minus sizing down to 17s.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:31 AM
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Ditto. You want to downsize your winter set to make it more effective on the snow and ice. Tall and narrow for winter. Wide and short for summer. In addition, xDrive will work better when front and rear wheels are the same diameter.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:19 AM
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X-drive with staggered tires. Probably not the best idea.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:14 PM
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I don't think that is a good idea. You want to keep the overall diameter of all the tires the same.

Tire calculator.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos

Like floydarogers said check with tire rack to make sure.
This is the factory set up, this is for my "2 door M5" non-BMW car, it is a C6 corvette. The stock wheels are 245/40 18 on the front and 285 35 19 on the rear.

And those have a diameter difference of 1.14" 4.59%

The sizes I want to use would be 1.32" 4.95%

Last edited by CarGuyHere; 01-09-2014 at 01:16 PM. Reason: This is NOT for my 535 (Sorry, I should have clarified that from the start)
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:17 PM
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This is the factory set up, this is for my "2 door M5" non-BMW car, it is a C6 corvette. The stock wheels are 245/40 18 on the front and 285 35 19 on the rear.

And those have a diameter difference of 1.14" 4.59%

The sizes I want to use would be 1.32" 4.95%
I'm fairly certain that you are not talking about an AWD car. That setup would definitely wreak havoc with an AWD trasfer case.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:41 PM
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I'm fairly certain that you are not talking about an AWD car. That setup would definitely wreak havoc with an AWD trasfer case.
Very true.

Plus the possibility of voiding your warranty. If so a new transfer case would be on your dime.

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Old 01-10-2014, 07:04 AM
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OK, maybe it's because I'm new here and have no preconceived notions:

Carguyhere is asking about tires for his Chevrolet Corvette. The situation is getting confused because he's referring to it as a "non-BMW M5" and his garage shows he has a 535xi.

So, winter tires for a 2000 Chevrolet C6 Corvette. Sorry carguy, I have no recommendations for you, just trying to get your thread back on track.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:15 AM
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OK, maybe it's because I'm new here and have no preconceived notions:

Carguyhere is asking about tires for his Chevrolet Corvette. The situation is getting confused because he's referring to it as a "non-BMW M5" and his garage shows he has a 535xi.
Yep I was

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So, winter tires for a 2000 Chevrolet C6 Corvette. Sorry carguy, I have no recommendations for you, just trying to get your thread back on track.
The best way might be to repost in one of the forums on the following site.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:51 PM
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Go with the Pirellis. I would want a matched set of tires and Pirelli makes a decent winter tire.

To everyone that posted in the first couple posts, learn to read.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:55 PM
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X-drive with staggered tires. Probably not the best idea.
335xi, 535xi, 550xi and others are available with staggered wheels stock from the factory.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:22 PM
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Thanks for the input, and sorry for making it confusing. I should have clarified in the first post.

The main question was (and I was thinking of the M5 guys that have to run the big wheel due to brake calipers) was tire width.

Would using 225 or 245 fronts with 255 rears, which would be better (I think the 245, so the handling would be more similar to the rear)

The ratio question, I was curious how sensitive the BMW is to diameter.

And why a snow tire question for vette on the BMW forum...Well few people drive their vettes in the snow, and most guys with M5's do.
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