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Old 02-13-2014, 05:05 AM
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Is that 328i steering wheel is suppose to be heav?

Just got the used 2008 328i, 48k miles for $18k. This is first bmw I am ever driving and steering wheel feels more heavier than typical cars. Is it normal?


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Hi, well first your kinda in the wrong forum your car is an E90 ,and yes BMW's do feel a little heaver than some cars to steer they are after all sports sedans and coupes.It sort of depends on what kind of cars you've owned and driven before ,you may want to take it in just to have it checked over since you just bought it.
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Get your trusted spanner pusher to do a pressure test on the PS pump. You may be confusing 'heavy' with 'feed back'.
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:17 PM
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It is 'heavy'. What it does is give you better feel of the road.
It's all good.. .also, I hope you test drove the car before you bought it, right?
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If you think an e90 steering is heavy, try an e39 540i. I love it, but a lot heavier than your car.
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:31 PM
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It ain't heavy...you'll like it brother!

OK, chintzy parody of "He's my brother" song. I drove a an '03 Z4 with electric steering for six years. After it was destroyed in an accident, I bought an '08 E93. At first the steering felt much heavier as it is belt driven. After a short time I got used to it and it feels much better than the steering on my Camry.
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:59 PM
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Enjoy it while you still can. BMW 3 series lost one of its greatest attributes 2012 onwards.
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Yes, it's that heavy. The world class BMW steering feel is standard on every e90.
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well if you move from a Jap car into E90 you find the steering wheel is pretty heavy

that's good as you need to need to go to the gym afterwork
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I felt the E46 had too light of a steering feel, so the E90 was like coming home again.
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You will get used to it and love it. Once you do, drive another car and that car will feel too loose! I missed my E90 when I took her in for an oil change. They gave me a 2014 F30 and even in sport mode I hated how loose the steering felt.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:25 AM
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If you think an e90 steering is heavy, try an e39 540i. I love it, but a lot heavier than your car.
Yeah? I never found it to be heavier...just less feedback due to the whole recirc-ball steering.
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Just got the used 2008 328i, 48k miles for $18k. This is first bmw I am ever driving and steering wheel feels more heavier than typical cars. Is it normal?

Heavy? Dude!

It's tactile. Yes, you feel the car with this steering weight - it demands to be driven, not ridden in.

Can it be improved? YES! M3 parts bolt right on, as your ride is the same core as M3, a great blessing with much potential. If you do that, kicks steering accuracy and feel up a notch. Several, if the right matched shocks/springs are installed.

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See it's a matter of perception it really just depends on what your familiar with . E90's are "heaver" than the previous gen E46's and are more like the traditional BMW sport steering feel ,it's one of the things that makes them so good.Enjoy your new ride and don't have to much fun the police notice nice looking BMW's too.
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Go test drive the F series, and you will understand what steering feel is when you get back behind the wheel of your E90. It's what BMW is known for, and has lost in the new generation of BMW models. Good luck, and Enjoy your car.
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Go test drive the F series, and you will understand what steering feel is when you get back behind the wheel of your E90. It's what BMW is known for, and has lost in the new generation of BMW models. Good luck, and Enjoy your car.
I don't think the f30 is really that bad. It's lighter then the e90, but so was the e46. BMW will fix the EPS system soon enough. New technology is always rough around the edges.
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well if you move from a Jap car into E90 you find the steering wheel is pretty heavy

that's good as you need to need to go to the gym afterwork
Generally speaking in the U.S., the term "Jap" would be insulting and demeaning. We might use the term "Japanese." Probably in the same unacceptable category as "C-h-i-n-k." We don't use such terms in the U.S. unless you're a racist. Do you have an alternative term to this?
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I don't think the f30 is really that bad. It's lighter then the e90, but so was the e46. BMW will fix the EPS system soon enough. New technology is always rough around the edges.
Then they should've kept it hydraulic until BMW EPS was perfected. BMW's steering feel is one of it's main attributes that make it a step above it's competitors. I've had a sport/non-sport F30 loaners and hated the steering feel on both. To give the F30 worse steering feel than the ATS is a serious travesty.
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I agree. The steering feel is one of BMWs greatest assets. Maybe if the masses complain enough, they will bring back hydraulic steering. I was once giving a X1 loaner and I think it has hydraulic steering because it felt like my E90.
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Generally speaking in the U.S., the term "Jap" would be insulting and demeaning. We might use the term "Japanese." Probably in the same unacceptable category as "C-h-i-n-k." We don't use such terms in the U.S. unless you're a racist. Do you have an alternative term to this?

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The problem for BMW is how to grow its customer base from the 'enthusiast driver' to include more of 'Joe Everyman' who needs to be lured from the Far East luxoboxes so popular along the coasts and from the American wallowcar community in the Midwest.

We now have folks complaining about how jarring the ride is with E90s on RFT. They expect the wallowing car ride or the Japaneses luxobox ride.
As someone who knows better, a business associate (a not-BMW owner himself) recently commented that my E90 was not jarring but felt like it had the sport suspension -- Exactly what I had already posted on this forum about my E46 (sport suspension) vs. E90 ride (standard suspension)!

So the fact that BMW has chosen to use electrical pump assisted steering, which numbs the road feel while improving the gas economy which is now mandated of them, makes the F-series BMW more immediately likeable to the Japanese luxoboxes and American wallowcars that they are trying to lure. So we enthusiast drivers suffer from the numbness in the hands while our butts are more cushy and similarly numbed by the softened ride.

With the F series, BMW has drifted back to the numbness of the E46, whereas it somewhat came to its senses with the E90. Unfortunately the ride of the 2002 and E30 and E90 is not what generally appeals to the Japanese luxobox and American wallowcar buyers that BMW wants to attract to grow its marketshare.

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