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Old 02-19-2014, 07:27 AM
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Been busy, diesel as a result

Was looking for a long-distance cruiser, since renting a smaller car each time we wanna drive down to french riviera or the likes (instead of worrying where to park the flagship, gas costs, etc) was annoying and I always secretly wanted to try something really economical.

Well I started looking for a smaller engine but ended up getting this deal on a '13 (production month July) 530d, yes, DIESEL for a zero-down 500/mo lease. It was a BMW demonstrator car and has 10k miles on it, plus it's produced in the last month before facelift - hence the amazing low price for what it is!

So it's like, all new to me: never had a diesel, never leased a car.

In short: '13 530D M-Sport, Sport-aut 8 speed, HUD, soft-close, White/shadowline, Cinnamon brown, anthracite headliner, adaptive drive.

Now the confusing part - I have never thought driving a diesel can be so much fun. It pulls like a jet, and from start/at low rpms it feels a lot more agile than the 750, it practically THROWS the car forwards. It's not much slower (a second slower 0-60) but has about triple the mileage After a 3 hour drive basically racing around, going all out on the autobahn, city traffic, etc I still couldn't get under 28-29 mpg.
Regular city driving gets you over 34 mpg. The 8-speed works magic with this beast of an engine.

But the most surprising thing is the sound - you can only tell it's a diesel when it's idling, otherwise it sounds fantastic.

Ordering gloss black kidney grills and getting the windows tinted next week and that's pretty much all it needs to just sit there and look pretty





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Nice brother, good find and AWESOME price! Let's see some interior pics!!
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Nice brother, good find and AWESOME price! Let's see some interior pics!!
just uploaded the interior clip
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That interior is nice! That cinnamon looks a whole heck of a lot like saddle and I loveeee saddle... Good find again man, nice work!
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That interior is nice! That cinnamon looks a whole heck of a lot like saddle and I loveeee saddle... Good find again man, nice work!
Thanks and yeah it's a cheerful color, maybe a bit too cheerful but it works with the overall sporty look. Wife and kids love it x D
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Congrats! I have never owned a diesel but always impressed with its mileage, longevity, and torque. But, I can't understand why it is not as popular in the U.S.
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Very nice, congrats! Great color combo too! I looked at a few 3's that were diesel, but I wanted more room. 5's in diesel are rare around here, I mainly see 3's. The downside about diesel in the states is the cars are more expensive and diesel in most stations is substantially higher than premium...at least in Ca that is the case. My truck is a diesel I love the power & torque, I just hate paying $135 to fill it up!
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Very nice, congrats! Great color combo too! I looked at a few 3's that were diesel, but I wanted more room. 5's in diesel are rare around here, I mainly see 3's. The downside about diesel in the states is the cars are more expensive and diesel in most stations is substantially higher than premium...at least in Ca that is the case. My truck is a diesel I love the power & torque, I just hate paying $135 to fill it up!
It's crazy , diesel costs about 30% less in europe and is considered to be the most economical fuel.
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I had a 535d loaner recently, fantastic car aside from my issue with the absurdly ancient cheap-looking tail pipes. Abundant torque immediately off the line, exceptional gas mileage - I drive typically 80-85% freeway, a diesel is perfect for me.

I wonder how reliable BMW's diesels really are, I always hear about Mercedes' vaunted old bulletproof diesels, but are modern diesels (in general) still built to be tough as nails? Could you get a W221 S350 or 740Ld and realistically drive it for 300k miles, or modern diesels not built to the same degree they once were?
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It's crazy , diesel costs about 30% less in europe and is considered to be the most economical fuel.
30% less is what it "should" cost


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That is such a gorgeous car, but wow, $500 a month? You can't get a base model 3-series for that much here. The interior looks very similar to the 7. Great find!
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I had a 535d loaner recently, fantastic car aside from my issue with the absurdly ancient cheap-looking tail pipes. Abundant torque immediately off the line, exceptional gas mileage - I drive typically 80-85% freeway, a diesel is perfect for me.

I wonder how reliable BMW's diesels really are, I always hear about Mercedes' vaunted old bulletproof diesels, but are modern diesels (in general) still built to be tough as nails? Could you get a W221 S350 or 740Ld and realistically drive it for 300k miles, or modern diesels not built to the same degree they once were?
With all of the emissions crap the diesel motors are required to have now, they shorten the life substantially. I don't think a modern diesel can achieve 300K miles.
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Someone hit the nail on the head, in Europe diesel is much cheaper than regular gas, hence all the diesels. I was just there in september and almost every car I saw, from Peugots (sp?) to big S class mercedes were almost exclusively diesels.
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Someone hit the nail on the head, in Europe diesel is much cheaper than regular gas, hence all the diesels. I was just there in september and almost every car I saw, from Peugots (sp?) to big S class mercedes were almost exclusively diesels.
Then, this begs the question. Why is diesel cheaper relative to gasoline in Europe vs. U.S.
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Then, this begs the question. Why is diesel cheaper relative to gasoline in Europe vs. U.S.

Because they have all of the freight carriers by the short hairs...when I got my truck, diesel was priced less than 87, now it's 30 cents s gallon more than 91.


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Now the confusing part - I have never thought driving a diesel can be so much fun. It pulls like a jet, and from start/at low rpms it feels a lot more agile than the 750, it practically THROWS the car forwards.
Unlike in Europe,diesel passenger cars are very rare here in the US.I think I've read that about 3% of our cars are diesels and most of *them* are Volkswagens.When I got my first "d" I allowed several family members/friends to drive it,none of whom had ever *seen* a diesel before,let alone driven one.With each one of them the first word out of their mouth after the experience was "wow",which was *my* reaction after *my* first drive.
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Then, this begs the question. Why is diesel cheaper relative to gasoline in Europe vs. U.S.
I get up to Canada pretty regularly and or at least part of the year (perhaps not in winter) diesel is cheaper than 87 in Canada.I think,but am not sure,that tax policy might be involved.I suspect that that price difference might at least begin to explain why I see far more Bluetecs,TDIs and d's up there than I do here.
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Checkout this article. It looks like diesel tax is higher, but not sure if it completely explains the difference in price.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-d...soline-2013-10
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I had a 535d loaner recently, fantastic car aside from my issue with the absurdly ancient cheap-looking tail pipes. Abundant torque immediately off the line, exceptional gas mileage - I drive typically 80-85% freeway, a diesel is perfect for me.

I wonder how reliable BMW's diesels really are, I always hear about Mercedes' vaunted old bulletproof diesels, but are modern diesels (in general) still built to be tough as nails? Could you get a W221 S350 or 740Ld and realistically drive it for 300k miles, or modern diesels not built to the same degree they once were?
535d is badass, remapped to 350hp they keep up with 550i's easily.
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Unlike in Europe,diesel passenger cars are very rare here in the US.I think I've read that about 3% of our cars are diesels and most of *them* are Volkswagens.When I got my first "d" I allowed several family members/friends to drive it,none of whom had ever *seen* a diesel before,let alone driven one.With each one of them the first word out of their mouth after the experience was "wow",which was *my* reaction after *my* first drive.
it's been a LONG time since I've been inthe US and I didn't even realize diesel is more expensive there. Ridiculous.
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With all of the emissions crap the diesel motors are required to have now, they shorten the life substantially. I don't think a modern diesel can achieve 300K miles.
Well that sucks...
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