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Old 02-21-2014, 07:38 PM
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335d collectability

Here's a thought... I am the one and only owner of my '09 335d and have been told by the mechanics who service my car at Murray BMW (Denver, CO) how cool my car is and how they are starting to look at "picking up a 335d". Now, my car has had a "few difficulties" and has a paper record thicker than an Oxford unabridged dictionary (for the younger members, that's a big assed book about four to five inches thick).
So... BMW is advertising the heck out of the 328d as well as the 535d (Oh!!! Do that again!!) during the Sochi Olympics. Stay with me here: we 335d owners could be holding the E30 M3 of diesels. No, think about it: 328d is a four cylinder TD. 535d is our engine with less horsepower, similar torque in a heavier chassis. Are we 335d owners possessing the Holy Grail?
If you have had an ownership experience like mine you're probably thinking, "hey, they legalized marijuana in Colorado. What did you expect?". But hey, (dude) maybe he's onto something. Power to weight? 335d without a doubt! Hydraulic power steering? Yup! parking size? (actually that is important to some. A 3 is smaller than a 5). Who would take the VW TDI (4 cyl rattle) over the 6 cylinder sonorous sound of a BMW 6 cylinder diesel?
Still in doubt? I traded (voluntarily) an '08 M3 for my '09 335d M sport and have NEVER looked back.
As folks buy into the 328d don't you think they will begin to wonder just what in the hell a 335d was all about? And they read an old Car and Driver magazine which tested the 335d and asked if "the 335d was too much motor"???? Well excuse me, I've never had too much motor and I have had more than a few with a lot of motor. BTW, the M3 was traded because the CLK 6.3 AMG Black Series totally eclipsed anything the M3 brought to the table
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M3 was traded because the CLK 6.3 AMG Black Series totally eclipsed anything the M3 brought to the table

Interesting -- expand?
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:53 AM
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if they only made 10 you might be on to something

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Old 02-22-2014, 04:27 AM
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:41 AM
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It should be at least as collectible as the 524td!

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I don't see it happening, but I guess we will see 10 or 15 years down the road.
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Hard to predict what will happen in the future but at the present time post war BMWs (with the exception of the 507) do not have much of a presence in the collector car market.
This is a good thing if you are a buyer as some very nice cars like the 2800/3.0 CS are IMO very underpriced,

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I doubt it will be collectable. It is a great car though. Live in the monent and enjoy the 335d for what it is, I know I do. N4S
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:35 AM
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Not to hijack my own thread but in response to CALWATERBOY, I did have an '08 MB CLK 63 AMG Black Series and simultaneously had the '08 M3 with the manual 6 speed. Both fabulous cars in their own right but the absolutely explosive power of the Black was incredible and extremely addictive, more so than an '01 996 turbo I had.
To Majikthese 42, I had an '86 524 td which I bought second hand for $1800 in 1998 and put about 80K trouble free miles. Donated it to Big Brothers and Big Sisters in the end.
And to Need4Speed, I really enjoy my 335d and have high hopes of eventually seeing 200+K on the odo. Only 84K so far.
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:45 AM
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I am throwing in with those who doubt the 335d will achieve collectible status in the U.S. The 335d is/was an effort to open the U.S. market for diesel-engined BMWs (CAFE requirements). The 328d is the follow-on to the effort. Personally, I much prefer the performance of the 335d compared to the 328d, but the buyers of the 328d for the most part probably don't know that there once was a 335d.

Collectible demand is driven by something - Series I Jaguar XKE had the looks. What is going to drive demand for the 335d? 425 lb-ft? 36+ mpg on the highway? I tend to doubt it.
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I doubt it will be collectable. It is a great car though. Live in the monent and enjoy the 335d for what it is, I know I do. N4S
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Who would take the VW TDI (4 cyl rattle) over the 6 cylinder sonorous sound of a BMW 6 cylinder diesel?
I would and I did. Cars without clutch pedal don't interest me.

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And they read an old Car and Driver magazine which tested the 335d and asked if "the 335d was too much motor"???? Well excuse me, I've never had too much motor and I have had more than a few with a lot of motor. BTW, the M3 was traded because the CLK 6.3 AMG Black Series totally eclipsed anything the M3 brought to the table
There is such a thing. When it was introduced to US market, 335d had more torque than any full sized picup truck minus HD lineup. What BMW didn't tell us that vacationing with RV in Europe is exactly the opposite than vacationing with RV in US. Europeans hook their RV to the towing hook of their 335d, Americans prefer to tow their 335d behind Greyhound-sized bus they call RV.

Did you ever tow your RV with your 335d? No? Then you just might have a car with too much engine


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To Majikthese 42, I had an '86 524 td which I bought second hand for $1800 in 1998 and put about 80K trouble free miles. Donated it to Big Brothers and Big Sisters in the end.
Nothing wrong with the 524 td, I considered buying one back then -- but I think an E28 M5 has more potential as a collectible car than an E28 524td.

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I would and I did. Cars without clutch pedal don't interest me.
We're supposed to be getting the 7th generation VW GTD here in the US as a 2015 model.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...treaks-roa0214

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

I telecommute, so I'm not going to save any money with a diesel -- but I think that the technology might be fun to try. With a stick shift. As little time as I can devote to driving, I want it to be fun. The GTD is on my short list when the E91 goes.
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I highly doubt it.
The D is a great car but BMW brought this thing to the market half-baked in my estimation. The carbon buildup is a huge problem and unlike the gassers can't be fixed with a simple walnut blast.
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I highly doubt it.
The D is a great car but BMW brought this thing to the market half-baked in my estimation. The carbon buildup is a huge problem and unlike the gassers can't be fixed with a simple walnut blast.
328d is going to have the same problems with carbon build-up (EGR will be the root cause of the carbon build-up).
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Not to hijack my own thread but in response to CALWATERBOY, I did have an '08 MB CLK 63 AMG Black Series and simultaneously had the '08 M3 with the manual 6 speed. Both fabulous cars in their own right but the absolutely explosive power of the Black was incredible and extremely addictive, more so than an '01 996 turbo I had.
To Majikthese 42, I had an '86 524 td which I bought second hand for $1800 in 1998 and put about 80K trouble free miles. Donated it to Big Brothers and Big Sisters in the end.
And to Need4Speed, I really enjoy my 335d and have high hopes of eventually seeing 200+K on the odo. Only 84K so far.

Well, two things:

[1] Corvette, now, if you can stand GM

[2] 500k mi no prob for diesel
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500k mi no prob for diesel
1984 300TD? True.

2014 diesels? Maybe. Maybe not.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=612152

Not just BMW ... or diesels....

http://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w2...n-buildup.html

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...lem-major.html
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Well, there's a simple exercise...

Buy 20 or 30 of the most popular performance cars.

Park them in a warehouse for 30 years (pay the rent, maintain the cars, etc...probably not more cost than a few hundred thousand dollars)

In 30 years, see which ones are worth anything and whether you gained or lost money.
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I have yet to see a collectible car that ran on diesel, if there is one, it will be the R8 diesel!
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I have yet to see a collectible car that ran on diesel, if there is one, it will be the R8 diesel!
Probably the closest to collectible Diesels would be some Mercedes Benz models from the 1950's. And even with that, none of them are ultra-valuable.

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