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Old 02-22-2014, 09:37 AM
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orange peel paint

has anyone tried to get the orange peel look of the paint fixed on their car? Does the clearcoat make that impossible to fix??
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Orange peel on factory paint? I thought that was an issue with non-factory paint job.


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Old 02-22-2014, 10:59 AM
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has anyone tried to get the orange peel look of the paint fixed on their car? Does the clearcoat make that impossible to fix??
Wet sand and buff, technically you can do it at home if you have a paint depth measure. Best bet would be to pay a detailer.

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Old 02-22-2014, 03:10 PM
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orange peel is the texture of the clearcoat. if you want a super smooth shine, you need to sand the clearcoat flat and re-polish, but that would give your car a "repainted" look.
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Old 02-22-2014, 03:45 PM
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Just had my 2010 6 series wet sanded last month. I'm the second owner and the previous owner was rough on the paint. The results were FANTASTIC! When he was finished, the black sapphire paint glistened like it was new. If your particular about your shine and willing to spend the money, I think you will be very pleased with the results. IMPORTANT: Shop around and ask to see the finished results of another vehicle that has been wet sanded. Clear coat is not very thick, if they burn through it, the results will not last as long.
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Denim pad

I have a rotary polisher and there is this denim pad that you can use to remove the orange peel. I couldn't believe it at first, but I tried it and the results were great. It takes a while to do a panel since I did not want to remove too much paint. I took care to polish for a few minutes wipe down and check. Then going a little more if it needed more help. I'm slowing getting to each panel of the car rather than doing it all at once.

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http://www.carpro-us.com/5-1-4-denim...l-removal-pad/

This is before and after. You can see my daily driver G35 in the reflection for comparison.
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Honestly... This or at least my car has little to no orange peel.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:27 PM
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take a close look at your paint. It does have orange peel from the factory, there is a really good detail shop I was going to talk to about it, I just wanted to see if anyone had done it.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:06 AM
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orange peel appears on mass produced vehicles, does the Lexus LS have orange peel? i remember reading its hand sanded smooth at the factory, just like a Rolls????
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:14 PM
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BMW is sort of known for its orange peel. I used to frequent the detailer forums a bit when I had the black 7 and always had some kind of scratch or swirl to deal with. Seems like their solution of choice is always wet sand. I'm sure it'll run around 4-500+, since it's a multi step process and I wouldn't trust some everyday jabronie to do it. Had some noticeable orange peel effect on my jet black, but i didn't really have a problem with it. On the current car it's either not there, or I just can't notice it because of the paint color and metallic element. Could also be that it's a tri-coat so maybe the paint ends up smoother as a result of the extra layer sprayed on? Just guessing here.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:54 PM
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I have a rotary polisher and there is this denim pad that you can use to remove the orange peel. I couldn't believe it at first, but I tried it and the results were great. It takes a while to do a panel since I did not want to remove too much paint. I took care to polish for a few minutes wipe down and check. Then going a little more if it needed more help. I'm slowing getting to each panel of the car rather than doing it all at once.

This is the product

http://www.carpro-us.com/5-1-4-denim...l-removal-pad/

This is before and after. You can see my daily driver G35 in the reflection for comparison.
Wow, that's really bad. Was this like that throughout the car? I've got the metallic grey color on my 7, but it looks closer to your "after" pic than the "before" pic. Original paint. Definitely still some slight orange peel though, but I don't mind. (my 01 E38, black, has even less orange peel).
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:00 AM
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Wow, that's really bad. Was this like that throughout the car? I've got the metallic grey color on my 7, but it looks closer to your "after" pic than the "before" pic. Original paint. Definitely still some slight orange peel though, but I don't mind. (my 01 E38, black, has even less orange peel).
It is like this on the whole car. Except for the passenger rear door which I know was repainted. Oddly enough that door has less orange peel than the factory paint.

My wife's e90, the orange peel is more apparent since it is Monaco Blue. I will tackle that when I get a chance. I have some coding issues to resolve on that car but that's another story.
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Funny I run across this. I brought my 2011 335i into a local garage today to have winter Hakka tires put on. I just purchased the car a few weeks ago from a dealer. The car has 26k miles and was certified.

The car is saphire black and when it was lifted on the lift you can see the orange peel under the lights. Mechanic says I think your car has been repainted. I said nope....I checked all the way around and it's the same all around the car, no over spray nothing in car fax and no indication it has ever been repainted what so ever and he agreed. My friend has a 5 series about the same year 2011 and his is the same way and he had bought his new. Look ated my wifes mini cooper and hers is orange peeled.

My wifes car had a door ding from some brainless idiot in a parking lot whom we never did find out who and of course we wanted it to look brand new. Brought it in to be repaired and they repainted the door. I looked at it and told the guy I see orange peel...he said your whole car is orange peel (never really payed attention) and I tried to match it which he did do an amazing job.

Is it black that shows up worse? I mean mine is really noticeable and I'm looking for a reputable detail shop to fix it but I have not been lucky yet. I know someone who knows what they are doing can fix this with no issue. I don't trust myself.
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All modern cars have orange peel due to the type of paint that is now being used because of environmental regulations. I wouldn't sweat it.
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What is a fair price to pay a detailer and what product to use on the finish after the orange peel is eliminated.



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What is a fair price to pay a detailer and what product to use on the finish after the orange peel is eliminated.
Instead of the dealer, there are independent detailers who take care of it waay better. The best price i got quoted for a full paint correction is $375 here in Atlanta. To take care of it after, here are some videos. This guy the one of the best at explaining, I just love his videos, and they were very helpful for me.











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Options: Pretty much everything, Except Rear Wood Shelf.
Mods: Front Lip, Rear Trunk Spoiler, 20" Giovanna Andros Rims, 15% Front, 5% Rear Windshield Tint, 45% Front Windshield Polarized Tint, Matte Black Accents, Light Smoked Tail Lights, Black Exhaust Tips, Kidney Grills & Front Vents Painted Matte Black, Brake Calipers Painted Gloss Red w/ White BMW Logos, B&W Roundels.

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Thanks for posting those vids Pranav!
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Thanks for your posting. I said DETAILER ! NOT dealer. Your tips are helpful.

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Thanks for your posting. I said DETAILER ! NOT dealer. Your tips are helpful.






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Instead of the dealer, there are independent detailers who take care of it waay better. The best price i got quoted for a full paint correction is $375 here in Atlanta. To take care of it after, here are some videos. This guy the one of the best at explaining, I just love his videos, and they were very helpful for me.
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Thanks for your posting. I said DETAILER ! NOT dealer. Your tips are helpful.
Oh sorry for that, my bad misreading it.
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F01 7 series
Options: Pretty much everything, Except Rear Wood Shelf.
Mods: Front Lip, Rear Trunk Spoiler, 20" Giovanna Andros Rims, 15% Front, 5% Rear Windshield Tint, 45% Front Windshield Polarized Tint, Matte Black Accents, Light Smoked Tail Lights, Black Exhaust Tips, Kidney Grills & Front Vents Painted Matte Black, Brake Calipers Painted Gloss Red w/ White BMW Logos, B&W Roundels.
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Thanks for posting those vids Pranav!
That guy has his personal channel too called Ammo Nyc. I only follow him to clean my car, he explains why we should do it that way too, opposed to saying "its the correct way"
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Options: Pretty much everything, Except Rear Wood Shelf.
Mods: Front Lip, Rear Trunk Spoiler, 20" Giovanna Andros Rims, 15% Front, 5% Rear Windshield Tint, 45% Front Windshield Polarized Tint, Matte Black Accents, Light Smoked Tail Lights, Black Exhaust Tips, Kidney Grills & Front Vents Painted Matte Black, Brake Calipers Painted Gloss Red w/ White BMW Logos, B&W Roundels.
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