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Old 02-22-2014, 11:31 AM
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Power steering pump

Would a broken water pump belt keep the car from moving I'm not sure if this is it .... It's the pulley to the lower left of the motor it's missing and my car it's moving


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Old 02-22-2014, 03:22 PM
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OK, you have a m20 with a missing power steering belt. Now you are asking if this would stop the car from moving? No it would not. When you say it is not moving do you mean the engine is not running or do you mean the car is running but will not move? Your message needs more details.


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Old 02-22-2014, 03:24 PM
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Engine running and not moving the wheels move backward but not forward


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Your A pack on the auto tranny had died.

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Old 02-22-2014, 06:18 PM
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Sorry the A pack controls the forward movement. You will need a new tranny

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Old 02-22-2014, 07:54 PM
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Price of a tranny plus a bit, sorry.


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Old 02-23-2014, 10:07 AM
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M20 auto e34?


Where there a lot of these??? Almost, seems kinda mean..


But i imagine, if its rare thats cool.. Haha
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:09 AM
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:15 AM
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From what i hear most m50 swap or 5 speed swap so idk if there are that many still around?

But as time goes on the number grows fewer and that becomes more and more special.. Most did not think to preserve one i bet.


I kinda like it now, lol.. Like a middle finger to convention
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:17 AM
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Are you not keeping it an auto?
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:23 AM
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:26 AM
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Installing a Manual Tranmission? (5 speed swap)

M50/5 speed swap can be self done 500$ these days even.
There are plenty-o-options.

But idk, i think leave it as intended maybe.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:33 AM
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:47 AM
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Ummm nothing to crazy i think.. Mostly a bolt in type situation...

An auto to MT swap may take a little rigging
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Old 02-23-2014, 01:09 PM
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First the 525i with the m20 was fro 89-90. Not rare, just under powered. With that said you should be able to get a manual swap for around 450 to 500. You do not need much in the way of special tools beyond what is used on the e34. So metric tools. You will need the clutch tool, but you can borrow that from auto zone.

Parts you would need

Transmission (replace transmission mounts)
Transmission brace
Drive Shaft
differential
slave(not necessary but the diff you have is a bit high for a manual, want something like a 3.46)
Slave lines hard and soft
Clutch
clutch plate
fly wheel (I would go with one from a e28 since it is single mass
Pedals
Clutch master


Not a horrid job but if you have not done anything like this before it is a big job. I do not think you have to replace the ecu from auto to manual ecu.


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Old 02-23-2014, 01:12 PM
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I ran a auto DME on my 6 speed.. It works just fine but has a few quarks from it...

Rpm's hang when you let off.. Etc
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I ran a auto DME on my 6 speed.. It works just fine but has a few quarks from it...

Rpm's hang when you let off.. Etc
So it worked just fine...
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:29 PM
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So it worked just fine...
Yea, its just acts a bit Weird..

It does drive and sound a bit better with MT DME don't get me wrong..

Also for m60 at least as i understand it the torque curve is not as aggressive to protect the weaker auto box..
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:45 PM
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To replace the auto tranny you need no special tools, because of weight (150) I would suggest getting a floor jack for trannies.

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Old 02-23-2014, 10:53 PM
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Andy could this be a problem with one or more solenoids or VB sensors?

I would suggest that you test the resistances of all the shift solenoids and the pressure control solenoid before deciding the entire tranny is busted. It only takes like 30 minutes to check this out with a $10 digital multimeter.

You'll need to find the transmission ecu pinouts for the tranny on your car. You'll have to find the tranny's model number : www.realoem.com will help you do that if you put in your vin number. Then search for a troubleshooting manual, or an electrical troubleshooting manual, for your tranny. All the required pinout locations and correct resistance values will be listed there. Take the opportunity to check out the resistances of the other devices such as speed sensors. All these resistances can be tested through the trans ecu clamp/connector. Your trans ecu should be on the right footwell speaker area. You'll need to remove part of the chassis rubber, and unscrew the panel.

You'll need to do a fair bit of reading up on this. But it might save you a ton of money and trouble.

Another thing you could do is to pull the dedicated tranny error codes from your car. You'll need a bmw diagnostic software called GT1 or other similar software tools, the stomp test does not pull these detailed tranny codes. Such software tools, together with the round pin connector and requisite cables, can be purchased on ebay for around $50 shipped and will take a week to reach you. You can get a workshop to pull the codes but of course they'll charge you and you might need to tow your car to get there.

Try to pull the error codes from your engine dme using the stomp test. Take note of them. Search google and these forums for how to do the stomp test. It should work on your car if you have a CEL on your cluster.

Last ditch - try this. Unhook your battery terminals for around 30 minutes. Then clamp them back securely. Confirm that the fusible link next to the battery is properly connected (google for this) and not blown etc. Then start the engine, let the car idle for a few minutes, and try to shift.

Unclamping the battery terminals for 30 minutes deletes the error codes from your trans ecu. If you're lucky, this might just fix the issue. Its a pretty long shot but considering the alternatives I think its no harm trying.

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