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Old 03-05-2014, 01:20 PM
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BMW 320d coupe, 2008, shakes like a tractor.

I have a 320d, 2008. 110k miles. Like the title says, it shakes like a tractor, both in idle and to a lesser extent when driving. I can't rest my hand on the gear stick when driving due to the vibration. It judders when I'm driving it but shakes violently when it's stopped. It makes no difference whether the clutch is depressed or not. There are no warning lights on the dashboard. There is perhaps a little loss of power on acceleration, but not too much. It is a very uncomfortable ride and the car feels like it needs to cough, which is the best way I can describe it. At idle, the gear stick and the car shakes quite violently.

I took it to the garage today. They plugged it in and the diagnostic computer didn't find anything. Then they told me it is the fly wheel (whatever that is) and that I need a new clutch at the cost of 1200 plus tax. I've looked at a few forums, not one has suggested the 'fly wheel' so now I don't know whether to get the clutch replaced. It's very expensive if that's not the problem!

Any help would be really appreciated!


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Old 03-05-2014, 01:44 PM
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BMW 320d coupe, 2008, shakes like a tractor!

I have a 320d, 2008. 110k miles. Like the title says, it shakes like a tractor, both in idle and to a lesser extent when driving. I can't rest my hand on the gear stick when driving due to the vibration. It judders when I'm driving it but shakes violently when it's stopped. It makes no difference whether the clutch is depressed or not. There are no warning lights on the dashboard. There is perhaps a little loss of power on acceleration, but not too much. It is a very uncomfortable ride and the car feels like it needs to cough, which is the best way I can describe it. At idle, the gear stick and the car shakes quite violently.

I took it to the garage today. They plugged it in and the diagnostic computer didn't find anything. Then they told me it is the fly wheel (whatever that is) and that I need a new clutch at the cost of 1200 plus tax. I've looked at a few forums, not one has suggested the 'fly wheel' so now I don't know whether to get the clutch replaced. It's very expensive if that's not the problem!

Any help would be really appreciated!


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Old 03-05-2014, 05:06 PM
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I have a 320d, 2008. 110k miles. Like the title says, it shakes like a tractor, both in idle and to a lesser extent when driving. I can't rest my hand on the gear stick when driving due to the vibration. It judders when I'm driving it but shakes violently when it's stopped. It makes no difference whether the clutch is depressed or not. There are no warning lights on the dashboard. There is perhaps a little loss of power on acceleration, but not too much. It is a very uncomfortable ride and the car feels like it needs to cough, which is the best way I can describe it. At idle, the gear stick and the car shakes quite violently.

I took it to the garage today. They plugged it in and the diagnostic computer didn't find anything. Then they told me it is the fly wheel (whatever that is) and that I need a new clutch at the cost of 1200 plus tax. I've looked at a few forums, not one has suggested the 'fly wheel' so now I don't know whether to get the clutch replaced. It's very expensive if that's not the problem!

Any help would be really appreciated!

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If the car is actually running fine and it is just shaking and there are no codes. I would say you need new engine mounts.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:28 PM
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Flywheel is what the clutch engages on. If it is out of balance it most definitely will do that. Esp if it is a dual mass flywheel.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:53 PM
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I have never heard of a fly wheel suddenly going out of balance. It is possible, and it would explain the shaking and lack of engine codes, but I have only seen or heard of fly wheels either chipping teeth (which causes starting problems), becoming glazed,chafed or warped (which causes chattering during clutch engagement) or cracking or shattering (which would cause LOTS of other problems besides shaking.

Wait...I'm sending up the bat signal for DSX Machina.

DSX where are you!!!

Seriously he is the guy to ask.
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Old 03-05-2014, 08:22 PM
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type '2008 bmw 320d flywheel' into google.

Looks like its a fairly common problem and that they do run a DMF.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:26 AM
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type '2008 bmw 320d flywheel' into google.

Looks like its a fairly common problem and that they do run a DMF.
I just googled dual mass flywheel. Seems that dual mass flywheels are designed to help dampen the vibration transmitted from the engine to the transmission.

I hoped that it was a diesel only thing, but to my horror I found out that my 325i has one as well. ACK! One more thing to worry about.

I can see why a diesel would need one by why an inline six, one of the most well balanced engine designs, would need on is perplexing.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:35 AM
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Ooops, accidentally posted same thing twice.

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Old 03-06-2014, 05:45 AM
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I have a 320d, 2008. 110k miles. Like the title says, it shakes like a tractor, both in idle and to a lesser extent when driving. I can't rest my hand on the gear stick when driving due to the vibration. It judders when I'm driving it but shakes violently when it's stopped. It makes no difference whether the clutch is depressed or not. There are no warning lights on the dashboard. There is perhaps a little loss of power on acceleration, but not too much. It is a very uncomfortable ride and the car feels like it needs to cough, which is the best way I can describe it. At idle, the gear stick and the car shakes quite violently.

Whelp, what scanner did they plug it into exactly? Many codes don't show on the dash....and are proprietary to BMW.

What, no mention of injectors?

BMW specialist?

Diesel mechanics?

Or, this?


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Uh, would you have an Exhaust Gas Recirculation device on your ride? EGR heat exchanger cooled w/engine coolant?
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I would start by checking engine and transmission mounts first. They are a lot cheaper than a complete clutch job! Have them replaced, or DIY.


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Old 06-16-2014, 04:58 PM
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Try lookin at viscous fan if ur model has one

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Old 06-16-2014, 05:06 PM
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I would start by checking engine and transmission mounts first. They are a lot cheaper than a complete clutch job! Have them replaced, or DIY.


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Yes. Open the hood to see if you can determine whether the engine is canted left or right abnormally. If you can't tell, put a jack under the oil pan and lift the motor to the point that the front wheels are about to leave the floor. That should show up broken or cracked motor mounts. Then do the same at the transmission with your attention on the mount at the tailshaft of the transmission.

If the car was an automatic a broken flywheel would definitely be a possibility but with a stick it's pretty unlikely. However if there has been clutch work done it's possible that the flywheel or clutch were reinstalled clocked to a position other than that in which they were initially balanced, or the flywheel and/or the clutch attaching bolts were not sufficiently tightened.

I'm not sure if BMW diagnostics would reveal a need for a valve job or the possibility of a broken piston, or any of the myriad mechanical possibilities that might cause rough running. They should but some of that possibility rides with the diagnostician.

Get a second opinion, preferably not at a dealership.
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:14 AM
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+1 motor mounts. There is probably something else contributing to this as well.

To get your symptoms, there is either something come out of balance or broken in your engine or transmission, or you have a cylinder misfiring for some reason.

On a diesel, you can verify that all of your cylinders are firing (more or less) by taking the temperatures of your exhaust manifold runners using an IR temp gun.

Do what you can to expose your exhaust manifold (easier said than done sometimes) and from a cold start, monitor the exhaust ports at the head. It helps to have a friend keep the engine at a high idle. If one port is colder than the rest, that's the culprit. Then you'd have to figure out why it is missing.




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