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X5 F15 (2014 - Current)
The all new F15 BMW X5 started production August 2013 as a 2014 model year. The new X5 arrives in sDrive35i (RWD), xDrive35i, xDrive50i and a diesel xDrive 35d.

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Old 03-15-2014, 07:06 PM
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i also just got the same car in white metalic last week. i have been testing out the start stop and i am noticing that it takes an extra 4-5 stops for the start stops to initiate. Does anyone know why this is happening. does it have something to do with the diesel engine?
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:27 AM
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Picked up 2014 X5 35d Today!!!

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Improvement over E70 model for certain. Will post pics tomorrow!
i will be interested to hear your thoughts between PC DIESEL VS X5 3.5 D ????
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We had E70 35d with Sport, Adaptive Drive, 20" Wheels and Cayenne felt faster and nimble. The F15 closes the gap as far as handling is concerned and passes the Cayenne in terms of quickness. Cayenne has a smaller feel on back roads and parking lots. F15 features and electronics are far superior as opposed to Porsche. Our Porsche is well equipped as well.
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I turned mine off, but will initiate and provide feedback.
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i also just got the same car in white metalic last week. i have been testing out the start stop and i am noticing that it takes an extra 4-5 stops for the start stops to initiate. Does anyone know why this is happening. does it have something to do with the diesel engine?
Engine typically has to come up to temperature before the start stop functionality will engage (at least that's how the 3 series I drove last year worked).

Is that what you are experiencing?

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Old 03-18-2014, 09:11 AM
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Engine typically has to come up to temperature before the start stop functionality will engage (at least that's how the 3 series I drove last year worked).

Is that what you are experiencing?

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I feel like the engine takes an extra 10 more minutes than the 328i start stop in my F30.
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Congrats! You owe us pictures OP!

I recently saw an F15 X5d at my local BMW dealer. Pretty much had every option on it. $88k!!
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Here are pics. Sorry for the delay and the quality. It was about to rain/sleet..

This car is AWESOME!! I think Cayenne may be a goner soon...
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Congratulations!
At PCD, they told me that start stop only works in certain temperature conditions. If it is too cold/hot or the engine has not warmed up, it will not engage. The details may be in the owner's manual somewhere. I live in SC, so the cold is not an issue (but I doubt it will ever work in the summer).
*That being said, I have disabled start/stop on my F15. I do a lot of in-town driving. With lots of short stops. The constant stopping/starting got old fast... and really freaked out bikers and pedestrians.
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Nice OP, Congrats!

Can someone tell me the differences between DHP and Adaptive M Suspension?
Also OP are you saying that your F15 with your specification build out handles your previous E70? Did your previous E70 have M adaptive suspension or something equivalent like adaptive drive just for comparison?
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It is my understanding that the DHP has the Active Roll Stabilization, while the Adaptive M Suspension does not. It is my understanding both packages offer Dynamic Damper Controls.

My E70 did have Adaptive Drive($4500 option); however, chassis Damping could not be adjusted.

I decided to go with Adaptive M Suspension instead of DHP, based on ride and handling it appears to be a good decision.
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Carman77, Congratulations on your new BMW. It looks like a nice build.

I will be buying either a 2015 Porsche Cayenne Diesel or a 2015 BMW X5 diesel. I have driven both and the lure to the Cayenne is that it is more fun to drive and feels/drives like a smaller vehicle. If I order the X5 it will be very similar to your build.

It seems that you prefer the new X5 over the PCD. I would really appreciate it if you could give a detailed comparison of the two vehicles. You are in a unique position in that you own both vehicles. I presume many members will find your opinion very enlightening.

Some topics that may be helpful to cover are: road isolation, wind noise, seat comfort, short distance preference, long distance preference, which is less fatiguing to drive, driving "feel" size, ride comfort, seat comfort (BMW Multi-Contour seats vs Porsche 14 or 18 way seats), your preference of the more luxury ride of the BMW over the sportier riding PCD, electronics, HUD, engine and overall vehicle refinement, driving fun factor and anything else you feel is note worthy.

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Old 03-29-2014, 10:44 AM
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carman congrats, think I'm going with the same colors and similar build. Are you second guessing LED package or wasn't that a consideration? Beautiful vehicle.
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Carman77, congratulations on your purchase. I love your color combination
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Thanks for the compliment! After I saw the Xenon with the LED fog light I saw no need for the LED light package.
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Thanks, what made you choose 451 rim over 469?
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Carman77, Congratulations on your new BMW. It looks like a nice build.

I will be buying either a 2015 Porsche Cayenne Diesel or a 2015 BMW X5 diesel. I have driven both and the lure to the Cayenne is that it is more fun to drive and feels/drives like a smaller vehicle. If I order the X5 it will be very similar to your build.

It seems that you prefer the new X5 over the PCD. I would really appreciate it if you could give a detailed comparison of the two vehicles. You are in a unique position in that you own both vehicles. I presume many members will find your opinion very enlightening.

Some topics that may be helpful to cover are: road isolation, wind noise, seat comfort, short distance preference, long distance preference, which is less fatiguing to drive, driving "feel" size, ride comfort, seat comfort (BMW Multi-Contour seats vs Porsche 14 or 18 way seats), your preference of the more luxury ride of the BMW over the sportier riding PCD, electronics, HUD, engine and overall vehicle refinement, driving fun factor and anything else you feel is note worthy.

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I had a lengthly reply and it disappeared somehow. I will try to work on again soon.

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Sorry to hear that. Looking forward to your thoughts. I will check back.
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Carman77, Congratulations on your new BMW. It looks like a nice build.

I will be buying either a 2015 Porsche Cayenne Diesel or a 2015 BMW X5 diesel. I have driven both and the lure to the Cayenne is that it is more fun to drive and feels/drives like a smaller vehicle. If I order the X5 it will be very similar to your build.

It seems that you prefer the new X5 over the PCD. I would really appreciate it if you could give a detailed comparison of the two vehicles. You are in a unique position in that you own both vehicles. I presume many members will find your opinion very enlightening.

Some topics that may be helpful to cover are: road isolation, wind noise, seat comfort, short distance preference, long distance preference, which is less fatiguing to drive, driving "feel" size, ride comfort, seat comfort (BMW Multi-Contour seats vs Porsche 14 or 18 way seats), your preference of the more luxury ride of the BMW over the sportier riding PCD, electronics, HUD, engine and overall vehicle refinement, driving fun factor and anything else you feel is note worthy.

Thanks!

In my opinion the BMW has some advantages. However, I'm slightly biased as you can see by the number of BMW's I have had. That being said the X5 has some other advantages Adaptive M Suspension(including Rear Air Suspension) as opposed to our Cayenne's standard Suspension. While I feel the Cayenne handling is slightly superior, I presume if the Cayenne had PASM (w/o the Air Suspension Option) the handling advantage difference would be more pronounced. In addition, our BMW has summer 40 series tires in the front and 35 series in the rear, while the Cayenne has all season 45 series tires all around.


Also, I love BMW's free maintenance program which includes brakes and ad-blue. The Porsche requires oil change every 5,000 miles at around $380-400, very costly and inconvenient In addition my local Porsche dealer does not give loaners if you did not purchase a vehicle from them, etc.

Here is my input on the rest:

Road Isolation- Advantage - Porsche -I suspect the 45 series tires has much to do with this. The BMW can compensate with the Adaptive Suspension settings. But low profile tires, don't help. Personally, I like to feel the road.

Wind Noise - Advantage - BMW - On the highway while not a LEXUS(not looking for one either), the X5 is extremely quiet and the diesel sound is quieter than the E70 and barely comes thru the cockpit.

Seat Comfort - Advantage - BMW - The BMW's multi contour seat is awesome, with the adjustable upper back support the comfort great. My PCD has 14 way seats- which are not bad, no comparison to the BMW.

Short Distance Preference - Advantage - Porsche - The Porsche feels small in larger spaces, easily maneuverable with power steering plus. Porsche is excellent on the back roads.

Long Distance Preference- No opinion- I have not driven the BMW over 30-40 miles in one sitting yet.

Electronics - Advantage - BMW - The F15 is a tremendous step up from the E70 and the PCD. The iDrive is great, they have come a long way since our 2004 E60 545i. The screen in the BMW is HDTV and the PCD is standard definition. I love how they ambient lighting can be changed. I do not have HUD in the BMW. The Porsche does have the option to place a smaller NAV screen directly in front of the driver. Also, the BMW has LED interior lighting all areas, which is available on the PCD for about $900.

Engine - Advantage - BMW- The F15 diesel is great, especially with the 8 speed transmission. Torque Monster! I felt the PCD was far superior to the E70 and now the F15 is superior to the PCD. On caveat the Porsche diesel is still quieter.

Refinement - hmmmm - Porsche is very well engineered. Based on a older design 2011 vs 2014.

Value - Advantage - BMW- With Porsche's EVERTHING IS AN OPTION business model- our $74K Porsche has less features than our $70K BMW. If you like goodies the BMW is the way to go.

That being said if resale value was a non factor (meaning I could put everything in the PCD that BMW gives) and I could get a PCD that looked like a GTS, I might say PCD. As we know that is not the case so I give it to BMW. I'm glad the BMW offers M Sport on the diesel now.

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I feel like the engine takes an extra 10 more minutes than the 328i start stop in my F30.

This is due to a OBD diagnosis routine which needs to complete - at idle. The N57T does take a bit longer than the N47T...


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Thanks carman...I really appreciate you taking the time to write such an extensive comparison. Very helpful. Did you drive an X5 with and without adaptive M suspension? I am keeping the X5 for 7 or 8 years and wonder if the cost of the rear air suspension is worth the price of admission. I am hearing $2000 for the rear axle (2 wheels) every 4 or 5 years. That could mean $4000 in repairs for the suspension alone prior to trade in. I plan on getting an M sport with 19" wheels/tires and favor a smooth comfortable ride.
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Thanks carman...I really appreciate you taking the time to write such an extensive comparison. Very helpful. Did you drive an X5 with and without adaptive M suspension? I am keeping the X5 for 7 or 8 years and wonder if the cost of the rear air suspension is worth the price of admission. I am hearing $2000 for the rear axle (2 wheels) every 4 or 5 years. That could mean $4000 in repairs for the suspension alone prior to trade in. I plan on getting an M sport with 19" wheels/tires and favor a smooth comfortable ride.
No problem. I did not drive X5 with standard suspension. In fact, 1st time I drove X5 was after delivery. Our previous X5 had Adaptive Drive, I'm not a fan of the standard suspension. I wanted the ride to be as tight as possible. Since Adaptive M was offered for $950, as opposed to DHP for $4500, I went with Adaptive M.

Finally, I would probably suggest you get an extended warranty for 7/100k to help mitigate the cost for any unplanned expenses.
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