Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)

E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
The E9X is the 4th evolution of the BMW 3 series including a highly tuned twin turbo 335i variant pushing out 300hp and 300 ft. lbs. of torque. BMW continues to show that it sets the bar for true driving performance! -- View the E9X Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-30-2014, 10:09 PM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
Service Engine Soon

Hi - my second post and already asking for some help.

I drove my car tonight and it feels like it's sputtering/hesitation. I continue to drive the car but it feels like it became 4 cylinder car and start shaking, then the Service Engine Soon light came on. I stopped the car at the side of the road and turn the engine off. Waited a few minutes and tried to start the car again. It started just fine and the SES light did not came back on. It drives fine after wards but now I'm worried.

The car is a 2007 328i with 94k miles. Anyone experience this to their BMWs? Any help or advice? Thanks in advance.
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 03-31-2014, 03:24 AM
CALWATERBOY's Avatar
CALWATERBOY CALWATERBOY is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Francisco
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,007
Mein Auto: 2009 E93 N54
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07whitebmw328i View Post
Hi - my second post and already asking for some help.

I drove my car tonight and it feels like it's sputtering/hesitation. I continue to drive the car but it feels like it became 4 cylinder car and start shaking, then the Service Engine Soon light came on. I stopped the car at the side of the road and turn the engine off. Waited a few minutes and tried to start the car again. It started just fine and the SES light did not came back on. It drives fine after wards but now I'm worried.

The car is a 2007 328i with 94k miles. Anyone experience this to their BMWs? Any help or advice? Thanks in advance.

As you spend more time here you'll notice....it's happened before, and likely will happen again.

So, what's the problem? Right off the bat, can't say.

Why? Could be many things.

How to diagnose? Car does much of it for you! HERE
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-31-2014, 08:26 PM
sptt144 sptt144 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Orange County, Ca.
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,083
Mein Auto: 2009 335i
Were you stepping on it before it happened by any chance? Car will try to protect itself and go into limp mode. But Cal is right, happens a lot. Recently happened to me after not happening for a long time. But nothing after that. All is good.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-31-2014, 10:25 PM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
Just a normal drive. I felt it's hesitating so kinda step on the gas but it start shaking and choking. Then the Service Engine Soon came on.

Did you do anything or it just fixes itself? I have a Innova scanner and but it's not getting any error. Maybe I need to invest on what Cal just mentioned. It just to expensive.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-31-2014, 11:28 PM
sptt144 sptt144 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Orange County, Ca.
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,083
Mein Auto: 2009 335i
You can try the simple thing of removing, cleaning, and swapping the vanos units. Costs you only time. Other than that, new.plugs next, then coils. A really bad coil could leave it stuck in the limp mode. But vanos are primary culprits to a lot of limp engine issues.

Sent from my SCH-I405 using BimmerApp mobile app
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-31-2014, 11:30 PM
sptt144 sptt144 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Orange County, Ca.
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,083
Mein Auto: 2009 335i
Btw...Ive got a cheap BT scanner with the Torque app that reads codes pretty good and clears them no problem.

Sent from my SCH-I405 using BimmerApp mobile app
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-01-2014, 04:15 AM
hondo402000 hondo402000 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Charlotte, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,738
Mein Auto: 2007-335 HTC
if you follow the recommended BMW 15,000 oil change interval, you could be in trouble, ****ed up VANOS and engine, very bad
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-01-2014, 04:16 AM
hondo402000 hondo402000 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Charlotte, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,738
Mein Auto: 2007-335 HTC
Quote:
Originally Posted by hondo402000 View Post
if you follow the recommended BMW 15,000 oil change interval, you could be in trouble, ****ed up VANOS and engine, very bad

why is g o o k e d up a bad word
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-01-2014, 06:06 AM
Last Sight's Avatar
Last Sight Last Sight is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Hunterdon County, NJ
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 408
Mein Auto: BLT335xi, e92 6MT
Quote:
Originally Posted by hondo402000 View Post
why is g o o k e d up a bad word
That's not the bad one...it's g o o p e d
__________________
BMWCCA #489063

The BLT335xi - '11 BMW 335xi, M-Sport, Convenience, Premium, H/K sound, iDrive

Previous Rides:
'13 Cadillac ATS - Fired
'09 BMW 328xi - KIA by Bambi, reincarnated in Michigan
'11 Ford Fusion SEL
'08 Honda Accord Coupe
'01 Saab 9-3 2.0T

Last edited by Last Sight; 04-01-2014 at 06:10 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-01-2014, 08:39 AM
jburke4689 jburke4689 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Ellicott City, MD
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 571
Mein Auto: 2007 335i
Quote:
Originally Posted by hondo402000 View Post
why is g o o k e d up a bad word
The Root Word of the term was a derogatory term for some Asians about 50 years ago. I suspect the system has a problem with it.

I would suspect the VANOS solenoids.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-01-2014, 09:23 AM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
sptt - thanks for your input. I will try that this week. Would you mind sharing on where did you get your cheap BT scanner. I might need to invest on that if I decided on keeping this car. Looks like I really miss my Toyota now. LOL
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-01-2014, 09:44 AM
sptt144 sptt144 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Orange County, Ca.
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,083
Mein Auto: 2009 335i
I either got it off Ebay or Amazon. You're welcome.

Sent from my SCH-I405 using BimmerApp mobile app
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-01-2014, 10:18 AM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
What are the things needed to clean the VANOS solenoids? Can I soak on a gasoline or break cleaner? Do I need to replace gasket once I removed and cleaned the vanos? Thanks in advance!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-01-2014, 11:39 AM
sptt144 sptt144 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Orange County, Ca.
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,083
Mein Auto: 2009 335i
Use MAF cleaner or carb cleaner and compressed air. Don't use gasoline. Your goal is to get any gunk or sludge out of them. Then swap them from the holes they were in.

Sent from my SCH-I405 using BimmerApp mobile app

Last edited by sptt144; 04-01-2014 at 11:43 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-01-2014, 01:58 PM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
Thank you sir!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-01-2014, 02:12 PM
fdriller9 fdriller9 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: NJ/Philly
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,089
Mein Auto: '06 AW 330xi
Quote:
Originally Posted by hondo402000 View Post
why is g o o k e d up a bad word



I didn't know that was an offensive word either haha
__________________

| LCI Msport Conversion | Custom Kevlar/Carbon Fiber Wind Splitter | Exotic Tuning Front Lip | H&R Coilovers | M3 Subframe Bushings | E93 M3 23.6mm Rear Sway Bar | Whiteline 27mm Front Sway Bar | Ground Control Camber Kit | L7 | Hand-Made LED Angel Eyes | Breyton GTS-R | Bridgestone Pole Position S-04 | CarPC with Centrafuse Front End | Alpine MRP-M500 | Custom LED Reverse Lights | OEM Blacklines | BMW Performance Trunk Spoiler |
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-01-2014, 02:51 PM
LJ35 LJ35 is offline
Registered User
Location: North Georgia, USA
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 19
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 328i
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07whitebmw328i View Post
Hi - my second post and already asking for some help.

I drove my car tonight and it feels like it's sputtering/hesitation. I continue to drive the car but it feels like it became 4 cylinder car and start shaking, then the Service Engine Soon light came on. I stopped the car at the side of the road and turn the engine off. Waited a few minutes and tried to start the car again. It started just fine and the SES light did not came back on. It drives fine after wards but now I'm worried.

The car is a 2007 328i with 94k miles. Anyone experience this to their BMWs? Any help or advice? Thanks in advance.
Mine did the same thing a couple days ago leaving work. It was intermittently cutting out under moderate load around 2500-3500 RPM, and felt like no spark to a cylinder or no gas. Turned it off after the SES light same on, then started it up and it drove fine with the occasional misfire.

Lucky for me, my OBD cable came in a few days earlier! I pulled the codes and it was cylinder 2 misfire. Swapped 1 & 2 coils then drove it until the SES light came on. Codes showed #1 misfire. BINGO. Replace the bad coil and all is well.

I bought mine 3/3/14 with 65K and the PO had the #1 coil replaced back in December. I guess when one goes, you can expect more to go. I ordered 5 more coils and a set of plugs and plan to install them next week. Easy job, too.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-01-2014, 03:24 PM
MB330's Avatar
MB330 MB330 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,609
Mein Auto: 2006 330i
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07whitebmw328i View Post
Hi - my second post and already asking for some help.

I drove my car tonight and it feels like it's sputtering/hesitation. I continue to drive the car but it feels like it became 4 cylinder car and start shaking, then the Service Engine Soon light came on. I stopped the car at the side of the road and turn the engine off. Waited a few minutes and tried to start the car again. It started just fine and the SES light did not came back on. It drives fine after wards but now I'm worried.

The car is a 2007 328i with 94k miles. Anyone experience this to their BMWs? Any help or advice? Thanks in advance.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=754336

I did replaced all 6 coils and spark plugs - car drive as the day I pick up in Munich.
__________________
'06 330i Monaco Blue/Gray/ZPP/Navi/CA/AT

'13 320i Alpine White/Black/AT
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-01-2014, 09:32 PM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
Thanks everyone! I did have a chance tonight to cleaned the VANOS but did not have a chance to test drive it yet. It looks promising though when I started the car. I will find out tomorrow when I drive it to work. I know I'm approaching the 100K miles maintenance and I want to do the spark plug change. What kind of spark plug would you guys recommend to use for this N52 engine?

Again thanks in advance on all your advice and inputs!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-01-2014, 10:33 PM
sptt144 sptt144 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Orange County, Ca.
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,083
Mein Auto: 2009 335i
Just did the BOSCH ones today. Super easy! Got them off eBay in two days for $63.00 and free shipping. Bought my socket for $19.00 from Burger Tuning. Car was definitely in need of some electric spark!
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-01-2014, 11:15 PM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
sptt - will this works =>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bosch-FR7NPP...38e225&vxp=mtr
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-02-2014, 03:17 AM
hondo402000 hondo402000 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Charlotte, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,738
Mein Auto: 2007-335 HTC
some say plugs are plugs, I say if you only replace them every 100K then buy the OEM plugs, their have been posts about people purchasing cheap plugs and having bad brand new plugs and chasing misfiring after replacing them

you can order OEM plugs or go to BMW and get them
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-02-2014, 11:40 AM
MB330's Avatar
MB330 MB330 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,609
Mein Auto: 2006 330i
I get my from www.getBMWparts.com part# 12122158253
I get my dealer to install and they ask for paper work - make sure I purchase this from BMW dealership parts department not from some BS mom and pop shop.

Part Number Part Description Quantity Core Price Price Total
12137594937 electrical, ignition system, ignition coil 3 Series From 4/06 6 $0.00 $51.77 $310.62
12122158253 electrical, ignition system, spark plug W/O 335D, M3, w/o turbo 6 $0.00 $19.06 $114.36

Sub Total $424.98
Shipping method - Standard Ground - US Shipping $26.95
Handling Fee $2.95
Tax $0.00
Total $454.88
__________________
'06 330i Monaco Blue/Gray/ZPP/Navi/CA/AT

'13 320i Alpine White/Black/AT

Last edited by MB330; 04-02-2014 at 11:42 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-03-2014, 10:43 PM
07whitebmw328i 07whitebmw328i is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
Mein Auto: 328i
just an update... after cleaning the VANOS, I still experienced hesitation/sputtering. So I decided to look at the coils and spark plugs. I was suprised that I have (2) different brand of coils (Bosch and Delphi coils) and the spark plugs are NGK BMW. Is BMW really uses NGK spark plugs? Looks like now I know why I'm experiencing the hesitation/sputtering. I'm ordering Bosch spark plugs and coils.

Last edited by 07whitebmw328i; 04-03-2014 at 10:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-03-2014, 11:00 PM
CALWATERBOY's Avatar
CALWATERBOY CALWATERBOY is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Francisco
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,007
Mein Auto: 2009 E93 N54
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07whitebmw328i View Post
just an update... after cleaning the VANOS, I still experienced hesitation/sputtering. So I decided to look at the coils and spark plugs. I was suprised that I have (2) different brand of coils (Bosch and Delphi coils) and the spark plugs are NGK BMW. Is BMW really uses NGK spark plugs? Looks like now I know why I'm experiencing the hesitation/sputtering. I'm ordering Bosch spark plugs and coils.

You should have misfire codes....which cyl's?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms