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X5 F15 (2014 - Current)
The all new F15 BMW X5 started production August 2013 as a 2014 model year. The new X5 arrives in sDrive35i (RWD), xDrive35i, xDrive50i and a diesel xDrive 35d.

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Old 04-01-2014, 05:11 PM
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Does Sport+ come only with M Sport Package?

So I've been reading a few of the posts here and I think I'm now more confused than before. So many suspension packages, options and damper controls. So I decided to call the dealer and told the SA to narrow it down.

He says that the Sport+ is the additional drive mode that comes with the M Sport Package and that the Xline and Luxury don't have the Sport+ driving mode.

Was he telling the truth or was it BS?


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Old 04-01-2014, 06:01 PM
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I think he is correct. My "no line" does not have a Sport + mode, only Eco Pro, Comfort, and Sport modes.


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Old 04-01-2014, 08:31 PM
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I think he is correct. My "no line" does not have a Sport + mode, only Eco Pro, Comfort, and Sport modes.


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agreed. drove an X-Line and no Sport+. Drove the M-Sport and definitely Sport +.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:26 AM
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My understanding is that the Sport+ comes with Dynamic Handling Package.
M-Sport alone I don't think includes Sport+ unless you pay for DHP.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:52 AM
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My understanding is that the Sport+ comes with Dynamic Handling Package.
M-Sport alone I don't think includes Sport+ unless you pay for DHP.
I was under the impression that MSport and Msport suspension includes the DHP....
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:08 AM
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Both of our vehicles are MSport. I was advised that DHP was not recommended when we bought the GT. I assumed we would still have Sport+. I listened and wish I had not. It does not have Sport+ and probably doesn't handle as well as it might have. On our X5 we optioned for DHP and we have Sport+ as well as an amazing ride for a taller vehicle.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:40 PM
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I don't know how others feel about this, but with Sport+, the Dynamic Stability Control is automatically turned off. This is good on the track, but on regular roads, I wish it would stay on...or at least have the option to turn it off manually...just for safety purposes.

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Old 04-02-2014, 01:33 PM
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I don't know how others feel about this, but with Sport+, the Dynamic Stability Control is automatically turned off. This is good on the track, but on regular roads, I wish it would stay on...or at least have the option to turn it off manually...just for safety purposes.

Z.
I was concerned about this as well. I asked about it at the Performance Center and was told that the Sport+ only partially removes traction control; further more they said a quick push of the traction control button only partially deactivates it and a longer push (3 seconds I believe) removes it completely. NOTE: This is the way I understood it and you should ask an expert if one doesn't chime in here with confirmation.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:52 PM
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My understanding is that the Sport+ comes with Dynamic Handling Package.
M-Sport alone I don't think includes Sport+ unless you pay for DHP.
I'm not sure about the M-Sport pkg alone, but I can tell you for certain that I don't have the M-Sport pkg, but I DO have the Sport+ with the DHP on my X5 -- which also didn't have any of the 'Lines' -- just a straight up base model 35d. I believe the Sport+ is a function of the DHP.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:05 PM
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I have the M-Sport without DHP and I do have Sport +.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:37 PM
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I was concerned about this as well. I asked about it at the Performance Center and was told that the Sport+ only partially removes traction control; further more they said a quick push of the traction control button only partially deactivates it and a longer push (3 seconds I believe) removes it completely. NOTE: This is the way I understood it and you should ask an expert if one doesn't chime in here with confirmation.
+1 this is how it was explained to me during PCD and how I understood it. That said, I haven't tried out Sport+ as my delivery specialist advised against it unless on a track.

btw, I have an MSport (no DHP) and have the Sport+ mode.
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So, if the vehicle comes with M Sport then it has Sport+. On the other hand if it has DHP regardless if is MSport or not then it will have Sport+?

Geez this is confusing!


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Old 04-02-2014, 07:46 PM
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I think Sport + also comes with a special launch mode for you drag racers out there. I've yet to find opportunity to try it out. See the manual for the sequence.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:58 PM
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...my delivery specialist advised against it unless on a track.
Is there a reason why the delivery specialist advised against using Sport+ if you're not on a track? Because, really, how many of us are going to take our X5s off road, let alone, a track? Which, then, makes this option/mode virtually useless.

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Old 04-02-2014, 09:03 PM
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I think Sport + also comes with a special launch mode for you drag racers out there. I've yet to find opportunity to try it out. See the manual for the sequence.
Yes it does, but I'm not sure if it ONLY pertains to Sport+ or if other X5s without Sport+ mode can also perform this. I do know, though, that the manual warns against doing the Launch Control too often as it will increase the wear and tear of the vehicle....like Auto Stop and Start.

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Old 04-03-2014, 02:50 AM
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I think Sport + also comes with a special launch mode for you drag racers out there. I've yet to find opportunity to try it out. See the manual for the sequence.

Me, Me, Me!

I know the answer to this one!!

I does come with a Launch Mode, it works only if the vehicle is in Sport+ and the gear shift in "S" mode.

It can't be in manual mode nor in normal "D" drive.

I've tried it and it's pretty cool!!

BTW, I couldn't imagine doing it would cause too much wear and tear unless you launch the vehicle on every stoplight.




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Old 04-03-2014, 06:32 AM
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Does anyone using Sport Mode really find the Steering to be better than Comfort Mode?
In fact other than higher revving I don't really care for Sport Mode than much. It seems to make the X5 more jumpy and bouncy than say Comfort mode. I have a normal M-Sport model btw.
I just came from and Audi Q7 and I hate to say but I much preferred how the Q7 drove vs the X5 and my Q7 had air suspension which switching from Comfort to Sport was a huge difference.
I love most things on the X5, but the Audi drove better.

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I have an xline with Sport+. I also have DHP and a third row seat. I was unable to configure a MSport with DHP and third row seating.


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Does anyone using Sport Mode really find the Steering to be better than Comfort Mode?
In fact other than higher revving I don't really care for Sport Mode than much. It seems to make the X5 more jumpy and bouncy than say Comfort mode. I have a normal M-Sport model btw.
I just came from and Audi Q7 and I hate to say but I much preferred how the Q7 drove vs the X5 and my Q7 had air suspension which switching from Comfort to Sport was a huge difference.
I love most things on the X5, but the Audi drove better.
I think your confusing yourself with Sport mode switch that you toggle from eco, comfort, and sport to a feature called Sport+ that comes with DHP and MSport packages.
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So, if the vehicle comes with M Sport then it has Sport+. On the other hand if it has DHP regardless if is MSport or not then it will have Sport+?

Geez this is confusing!


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I think your confusing yourself with Sport mode switch that you toggle from eco, comfort, and sport to a feature called Sport+ that comes with DHP and MSport packages.
Kzang I find the Sport+ mode by toggling the switch from Comfort to Sport and THEN to Sport+.
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Kzang I find the Sport+ mode by toggling the switch from Comfort to Sport and THEN to Sport+.
That makes sense... My mistake. I was under the impression that there was a dedicated sport button like previous models..
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Since we're talking about Sport and Sport+ Mode, I have a question...it's kinda related to what we're talking about.

I understand that toggling the switch on the center counsel puts the car in Sport Mode initially (toggling up). This adjusts the steering, throttle response, shift points, and suspension. Now, the way I understand it, sliding the shifter over puts the car also in Sport Mode...but only changes throttle response and shift points. If this is the case, what happens when you slide the shifter over to Sport Mode when you're already in Sport Mode by toggling the center counsel switch to Sport Mode? Nothing? I mean, you can't have double Sport Modes...I'm confused.

I understand that you can move the shifter over and manually shift the transmission, but this isn't what I'm talking about. You can slide the shifter over and leave it there and the transmission will still shift automatically but with tighter throttle response and higher shift point.

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Thank you for pointing out the confusing and very complicated process in all the driving modes in these vehicles.

Wouldn't it just be easier to just have

1. Comfort Mode (Everyday family driving)

2. Sport Mode (Kick ass track driving)

3. X-Line Mode (Off Road Prowess)

4. Eco Mode (Tampon Wearing Sissyness Driving)




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I'm confused

Modes w/o dhp


Eco
Normal
Sport

Modes w/dhp
Eco
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Sport
Sport+ where sport plus gives you a more aggressive chassis thanks to dhp

If you don't have dhp what is the Difference between Sport and S+?

Sport + requirement must have DHP? Unless I'm missing something here?

The driving dynamic switches is marketing fluff and an ego booster...it's like Cap Piccard saying engage evertime they were to go to a new destination, it prepares you for the journey ahead lol
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