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Old 04-02-2014, 05:44 AM
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Z3 fenders

Is there a difference in the fenders on the 1.9 and 2.8?

I'm curious because I want to completely change my z3 and make it look meaner and I think the wide fenders would help.

If there is a difference, is it even possible to fit them on the car?

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Old 04-02-2014, 10:20 AM
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Pretty sure you can bolt on the rear fenders of the pre-face-lift Z3s, but you'll also need the rear bumper, and possibly the rocker panels (they are bolted on, not welded).

AGES ago, there was a guy with a 1.9 that had installed the wider rear fenders and all associated parts from an M Rdstr on his car, including the ///M's deep-dish rear wheels. I mean, I think this guy did EVERYTHING, including the ///M seat, console and dual__looking__quad-tip exhaust. It looked exactly like an ///M Rdstr, until the hood was opened!

The deep rear wheels fit the narrow 1.9 axle, when used in conjunction with the 2.8/3.2 fenders, something that the 2.8 & 3.0 guys can't pull off, because the axleshafts are too long.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:27 AM
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Pretty sure you can bolt on the rear fenders of the pre-face-lift Z3s, but you'll also need the rear bumper, and possibly the rocker panels (they are bolted on, not welded).

AGES ago, there was a guy with a 1.9 that had installed the wider rear fenders and all associated parts from an M Rdstr on his car, including the ///M's deep-dish rear wheels. I mean, I think this guy did EVERYTHING, including the ///M seat, console and dual__looking__quad-tip exhaust. It looked exactly like an ///M Rdstr, until the hood was opened!

The deep rear wheels fit the narrow 1.9 axle, when used in conjunction with the 2.8/3.2 fenders, something that the 2.8 & 3.0 guys can't pull off, because the axleshafts are too long.
Great Thanks! What would you say is the best way to get all the panels?

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Old 04-03-2014, 06:21 PM
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I widened my 1.9 too...

1) At bare minimum, you need 6cyl Rockers, 2.8 rear fenders (qtr panel), and 2.8 rear bumper.
*The 2.8 rear fenders are same as M-roadster rear fenders.
**All 6 cyl rockers (wide body) are the same.
***at this level, You can reuse 1.9 tail lamps, and exhaust
-Everything is plug and play, direct bolt on. No modifying anything.


2) If you want to do M-Roady conversion, in addition to everything in #1, you'll also need M front bumper, side gills, M side mirrors, and trunk lid, rear bumper
*You will lose your spare tire, to do custom exhaust for the dual outlets.
**The M Roady rear bumper exhaust cutouts are closer to the center of the car than the single side exit of the 1.9 and 2.8 Z3's.
***Rewire the license plate lights to run up to the trunk lid.
****Trunklid needs a little rewiring too (and trunk lock keyed button swapped over.)


3) If you want the facelift Z3 look, (Z3 3.0?) then you'll need everything in #1, as well as
3.0 trunklid assembly, bumper and tail lamps.
*You can reuse 1.9 exhaust (keeping spare tire too)
**3.0 rear bumper will ONLY work with 3.0 rear fenders.
***3.0 tail lamps will only work with 3.0 trunk lid.


-Other details: you'll want appropriate fender liners, fuel cap lid, and rubber funnel inside the gas lid (connects from fender to gas filler tube).


The wider ass makes a night and day difference in looks. So much nicer. Easier on the eyes.

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Old 04-03-2014, 06:25 PM
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There is certainly nothing bad for engine in doing what you're doing. One down side is that, with the transmission in neutral, you are not ready to apply power to avoid an emergency situation. It would be better to use the clutch for normal braking, then use neutral once when you are stopped to reduce some wear on the throw-out bearing.

The time to use engine braking is during prolonged braking, such as down a mountain, where the brakes can overheat, which causes the brake fluid to boil, which results in no brakes. Using engine braking in normal situation means that you would shift into a lower gear and release the clutch. There are times when that is good, but it adds wear to the clutch disc. The way you do it (using neutral with the brakes) results in less wear to the clutch, which is much more expensive to replace than the brakes.
Great thanks! Do you know of any easily accessible places to buy the parts?

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Old 04-03-2014, 06:49 PM
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There's online brokers for dismantlers, but shipping usually becomes the problem.

I got lucky and found someone with a M-Roady they were parting out. I got all the body parts, complete interior, and more. Almost a 1 stop shop.

I did bite the bullet and purchased the front and rear bumper brand new.
I was investing in a new paint job, and couldnt find any used bumpers in the condition I wanted.

My recommendation, would be to skip the M-roadster rear bumper and trunklid swap.
If you really want the M's rear look., just sell the Z3 and buy a real M.

I just wanted some more Ass.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:08 PM
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There's online brokers for dismantlers, but shipping usually becomes the problem.

I got lucky and found someone with a M-Roady they were parting out. I got all the body parts, complete interior, and more. Almost a 1 stop shop.

I did bite the bullet and purchased the front and rear bumper brand new.
I was investing in a new paint job, and couldnt find any used bumpers in the condition I wanted.

My recommendation, would be to skip the M-roadster rear bumper and trunklid swap.
If you really want the M's rear look., just sell the Z3 and buy a real M.

I just wanted some more Ass.
Haha I don't blame you! Thank you

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I'm curious because I want to completely change my z3 and make it look meaner and I think the wide fenders would help.
I always liked the slim look of the narrow body 1.9. It was the OE WHEELS (Z-star?) that I thought hurt the car's looks. One option to consider is find some "classic" wheel style, such as Panasport/Minilite or Borbet Type CA, to compliment the classic style of the narrow-body 1.9. That would be a lot easier and cheaper than trying to change bodywork. End up with a modern-day Alfa Romeo Duetto Spyder.
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