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Old 04-16-2014, 05:22 PM
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Spacers

I own a 2011 bmw 335is.. My friend has recommended for me to put spacers so the wheels look more staggered. I'm not too big of a fan on the look, but I wouldn't mind it at the same time. My tire guy said bmw doesn't recommend it due to vibration concerns. What is your guys' take on it?


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Old 04-16-2014, 05:41 PM
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It vibrates

I had spacers in a AUDI and it vibrates all the time after 60 miles per hour. Also you need longer bolts and then you will hate it.
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:40 PM
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I decided against them on my 335is. I think they give a more aggressive stance but there not worth the potential vibration issues.


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Old 04-16-2014, 08:50 PM
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335i coupe. 15 mm in front and back here. Looks beefier and I have no vibration issues at all. Got mine through BMS. Have 20k on them now and even put new non run flats on back.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:19 PM
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335i coupe. 15 mm in front and back here. Looks beefier and I have no vibration issues at all. Got mine through BMS. Have 20k on them now and even put new non run flats on back.
Ditto. I went with 12mm if memory serves. Even though I measured, I must have done something wrong because the 15mm rubbed the fender well in the rear when I carried passengers or hit wavy bumps.

No vibration issues with probably 6,000 miles on them. I also purchased from BMS.

I asked the service advisor about these once and he admitted that unless the spacers were insanely large, there wouldn't be any issues. Some say that bearing wear will take place, but he seemed dismissive. This was from a guy whose job is to say "no" a lot.

You MUST get the longer bolts, though.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:22 PM
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Ok well I have a bigger tire on the back. It's 265 instead of stock 255... I've been trying to decide what mm to get all day.... I'm thinking 12mm all around. Any thoughts ? I don't want the back to rub at all


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Old 04-17-2014, 07:30 PM
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Ok well I have a bigger tire on the back. It's 265 instead of stock 255... I've been trying to decide what mm to get all day.... I'm thinking 12mm all around. Any thoughts ? I don't want the back to rub at all


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The 12s work well. I took two adults to lunch today and had no issues with rubbing, but if the car was fully loaded.......meh. Maybe.

Just don't get 10mm. The Turner Motorsport website explains why that isn't a true measurement and why it's not recommended. I can't recall the specifics, but it has something to do with the hub-centric nature of BMW wheels and the 10mm not having the right lip to support the wheel. Or something. Don't quote me.

I love the look with my 12mm. It was obvious without being obnoxious. I recommend you spend ample time measuring first, regardless of what you choose. Don't go in blind -- many e90 posts said they ran 15mm and it simply didn't work for me.
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Ditto. I went with 12mm if memory serves. Even though I measured, I must have done something wrong because the 15mm rubbed the fender well in the rear when I carried passengers or hit wavy bumps.

No vibration issues with probably 6,000 miles on them. I also purchased from BMS.

I asked the service advisor about these once and he admitted that unless the spacers were insanely large, there wouldn't be any issues. Some say that bearing wear will take place, but he seemed dismissive. This was from a guy whose job is to say "no" a lot.

You MUST get the longer bolts, though.
Please...his job is to get you to spend more money....like alignment fixes

From what I hear they cause other kinds of issues that revolve around tires, suspension, etc.

Given that, if 15 mm makes ya happy. go for it
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What's the best way to measure ?


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http://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-wheel-spacers.aspx

Also try YouTube. Don't forget to put weight in the trunk...or a buddy sitting on the bumper...so the rear squats down a little. Then measure.
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Properly mounted spacer will not cause issues.

I run 12mm on the rear with my summer setup and 15mm on my winter. I use the same extended lugs for both sets.

Never had issues with vibrations.
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:45 PM
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:58 AM
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The make and model don't have anything to do with spacers.

They behave the same way on every car.

Just make sure you get hub centric spacers. Meaning, they center themselves. Some spacers are universal and have to use centering rings or you have to guess when they centered. That's when you will get vibrations....again, properly installed spacers will not give issues.
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Properly mounted spacer will not cause issues.

I run 12mm on the rear with my summer setup and 15mm on my winter. I use the same extended lugs for both sets.

Never had issues with vibrations.

OP, that is the key to making 'em work.

OTOH, expect no performance benefit. None. Nada! This is strictly cosmetic and remember, you can't see 'em when you drive - this is strictly for those outside the car. You get 'em, you are posed.
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OP, that is the key to making 'em work.

OTOH, expect no performance benefit. None. Nada! This is strictly cosmetic and remember, you can't see 'em when you drive - this is strictly for those outside the car. You get 'em, you are posed.

Cal,

You could say the same thing about the paint or exterior trim of the car. Does your car have paint on the outside? Does that make you a poser?

I don't see the need for spacers, but it's not my car. I am considering changing my wheels to style #189 for no other reason than the exterior appearance of my car.

I care (to some degree) what other people think of the exterior appearance of my car, but mostly I'm changing the wheels to suit my tastes.

I enjoy looking at my Bimmer. BMW paid a team of designer big bucks to make me like it.

Oh, and spacers will increase the track of the car so it will effect the handling ever so slightly, making it more stable since it's center of gravity will be further from the edge of the chassis envelope.

Of course you'd need the most sensitive posterior on the planet to feel the difference.
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Cal,

You could say the same thing about the paint or exterior trim of the car. Does your car have paint on the outside? Does that make you a poser?

I don't see the need for spacers, but it's not my car. I am considering changing my wheels to style #189 for no other reason than the exterior appearance of my car.

I care (to some degree) what other people think of the exterior appearance of my car, but mostly I'm changing the wheels to suit my tastes.

I enjoy looking at my Bimmer. BMW paid a team of designer big bucks to make me like it.

Oh, and spacers will increase the track of the car so it will effect the handling ever so slightly, making it more stable since it's center of gravity will be further from the edge of the chassis envelope.

Of course you'd need the most sensitive posterior on the planet to feel the difference.

Good point. If it didn't matter how your car looks you might as well be driving any ugly POS as long as it performs.

There is nothing wrong with having a car that looks good (to you and/or others) and one that handles well too. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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You could say the same thing about the paint or exterior trim of the car. Does your car have paint on the outside? Does that make you a poser?

>AHEM<

Could be.....


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>AHEM<

Could be.....


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I forgot to ask, have you guys noticed your spacers give you better handling??


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