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Old 04-28-2014, 02:14 PM
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'10 335d - groaning when loading suspension on left turns

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Relatively new here. Purchased a preowned 335d, awesome car. I took a 750mi roadtrip the first weekend I had it and noticed a slight groan/rumble when turning left af speeds of 30mph or higher, loudest around 60mph. You have to load the suspension to hear the groan and it comes from the front right wheel well area. Still under factory warranty, I brought it to the dealership and I mentioned it sounded like a wheel bearing as I've had the problem before on previously owned vehicles.

2 days went by, dealer calls and claims it's all ready to go. Picked it up, went to the highway, made a few s-curves within my lane and discovered the noise was still there. Took the first exit back to the dealer. Dealer claims bearing was replaced. Mechanic comes out...claims he did the bearing himself. So we took a test drive and I demonstrated for him. He's baffled. So, back in the shop it went. Still at the shop, 1 week already, for what seemed like an easy fix.

Is this common? What else could it be? Tires are in great shape. Rims are true and not bent. Rotors/pads are fairly new, not warped.

Hope I didn't buy a lemon!
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:40 PM
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How many miles are on the vehicle? Worn bushings can also cause noises under load. The thrust arm bushings on these cars are known to fail early, most go with the M3 units or the powerflex. Bring it back, have them do a full inspection.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:17 PM
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Thrust arm bushing is located in the lower control arm, yes?
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:21 PM
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Thrust arm bushing is located in the lower control arm, yes?
#9 I believe, they are filled with a gel/liquid:
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Old 04-28-2014, 07:47 PM
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I will suggest that to the techs. The car has 28k miles.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:46 AM
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Update: Car still not ready. SA is extremely poor in getting back to me. I'm really getting annoyed, although, I have a 528i as a loaner so I'm not car-less. Here's what he emailed late last night

We replaced the right rear wheel bearing and rotated the tires
front to back and cross rotated the tires. And unfortunately the noise is still present when making those turns….
We are still in the diagnoses stage since the first two repairs have not corrected the issue.
I will touch base with you tomorrow when I get any updates. I do apologize for the delay.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:51 AM
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are all you tires the same size? or do you have a staggered fit ? Why would you EVER cross rotate tires, tires should always be run in the same direction. Are they uni directional tires too ? if you have RUN flat tires GET rid of them. I'd bet that is the issue. I too had same noise. I thought wheel bearings too. nope ended up being the stupid run flat tires! noise gone.
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Old 04-30-2014, 07:05 AM
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I'm afraid they will suggest that and I will have no choice but to get new tires. But I don't want to replace these tires just yet, they are nearly new with lots of tread on them. So I'll be shafted by buying new tires and they may or may not fix the problem. Plus, I wanted to go to summers next year on some new 17x9s so I want to hold of on tires as long as possible. They are all OEM brand/model tires square fitment (I think). I barely had the car so I can't remember for sure. It's been in the shop longer than I owned it.

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Old 04-30-2014, 07:34 AM
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Reviewing your post, I had an issue with my 335i after the first month, it was a groaning, I could only hear around 30mph, from the right side and it ended up being one of the oil cooler hoses shifting and vibrating against the front chassis area. It may not be suspension related; just thought I'd throw it out there, engines shift under load as well as the suspension itself so other items should be checked, like the engine mounts themselves.
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Old 04-30-2014, 07:35 AM
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if they are run flats those tires cause ALLOT of road noise! especially when they go bad. does not matter how much tread is left on them! I put new tires on and the car was a completely different car all together. I did NOT put run flats on either. I have CAA / AAA if needed.
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:28 PM
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Update 5/2: Dealer called and claims the front rotors/pads are aftermarket, which are flexing and rubbing on the pads while turning. I told them I think that's BS because I've never heard of such garbage. . They put OEM BMW parts on the brakes and claim the noise went away. Picking it up tomorrow with new bearings and brakes just as I left it. Not paying for their brakes.
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