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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 07-15-2014, 09:31 AM
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I just moved from PA to VA and I cant get to my mechanic easily since he is a couple hours away and I need work asap so I was recommended to a local shop that does good work but the prices seem high I was wondering what you guys thought. Maybe I am just spoiled since I knew the owner personally of the last shop but here is what is going on, I have a hairline crack leaking a little coolant from the radiator but the guy recommended I replace not only the radiator the expansion tank, upper and lower hoses, water pump and thermostat. Pricing it at $1250 including labor. Its a 2002 530i with 122,200 on it. Also my serpentine belt needs to be replaced with parts/labor that will be 180. Whats your opinion?
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:10 AM
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i just searched 'labor cooling system', heres a recent one http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...cooling+system

to put it together, you can search for costs of parts. the rest will be to determine the 'book time' on this work and your new shop's rate - i've seen indy hourly labor rates quoted here 75-100/hr and the dealer will be prob 50% more than that.

fwiw neither of those jobs are terrible to do yourself and there a lot of diys out there for them
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:15 AM
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I would would do some checking around and not use the Behr OE radiator. They appear to have quality issues lately and some are giving out in very short order.
Also, I would look at doing the job yourself as mentioned. you will save about 700 bucks to do it yourself and you can do it in a day with the right tools.
I know handing it to an indy is easier, but DIY has its own rewards.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:12 PM
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Thanks, I was thinking about doing it myself but im just unsure about trusting myself to do it. Guess its time to man up and just do it haha aint nobody got money like that
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:11 PM
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Thanks, I was thinking about doing it myself but im just unsure about trusting myself to do it. Guess its time to man up and just do it haha aint nobody got money like that
See also:
  1. What is your local dealer/indy fixed labor rate? (1)
  2. What book does your dealer/indy use for flat rate time? (1)
  3. Where does the dealer/indy/sponsor buy their parts from? (1)
  4. How long does the dealer/indy quote for each repair (for better shop transparency) (1)
  5. How long did it take YOU to DIY that last maintenance or repair? (1)
  6. How much money, in toto, did the dealer/indy quote you for your repair? (1)



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Parts & labour rates:
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  • Finding a reputable BMW indy in your area (1) (2) & the consumers' checkbook method of finding a good mechanic (1) & repairpal labor/job/shop rates by zip code (1) & other things to consider replacing while you're already there (1)
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  • Where can one obtain the BMW KSD for flat rate unit (FRU) labor pricing (1) & the BMW TIS for technical service bulletins (1) (2) & an on-line WDS (1) & a text-searchable PDF Bentley E39 repair manual, volume I (1) (2) & the best price on paper Bentleys (1) & the Bentley Publishers Online Technical Library (1) & if you can no longer find the TIS, here's why (1)
  • What to tell those who haven't yet bonded with their E39 who feel they don't have time, money, expertise, or tools to DIY & why the tools are free when they do so (1)
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See also: E39 Bestlinks & How to easily find what you need

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Old 07-15-2014, 06:13 PM
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You will surprise yourself. All you need is basic tools patience and the diy. A little help from the trusty forum members couldn't hurt either lol
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:55 PM
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That's about the going labor rate for a cooling system labor charge ($700 +/-). If you combine both jobs and replace ALL cooling parts (tensioners, rollers, etc.), you'll save more than $800 in labor alone. If you don't mind paying someone else $800, have at it. But if you value your money and want to use for things you can't do yourself, then consider DIY. Many here do. If you can read, follow directions and have basic competence with tools, this is a doable DIY. The DIYs are very comprehensive with excellent pictures.

http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/199986
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:40 PM
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If you can read, follow directions and have basic competence with tools, this is a doable DIY. The DIYs are very comprehensive with excellent pictures.
Plus, as an added bonus, the tools are free!
- What to tell newbies who think they don't have time, money, expertise, or tools to DIY & why the tools are free (1)

Just type /cooling system overhaul f3 in the bestlinks, and you'll find this:
- List & picture of all the cooling system overhaul parts to replace (1) (2) (3)
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Your job, in return, is to read the suggested threads, where the best people will always add value to those threads, either by pictures or by descriptions, so the next person with the same problem stands on your shoulders.
See also: E39 Bestlinks & How to easily find what you need
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